Woodward (old thread)

Should Studward remain as CE of Manchester United?

  • No - he should be sacked also.

    Votes: 40 22.6%
  • Yes - he should stay.

    Votes: 137 77.4%

  • Total voters
    177
  • Poll closed .
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Thing is that we need 3,4,5 players players right? Can you really seen dead Ed with that many players on deadline day?
 
Watch this space. A blank space. Empty. Black. Nothingness. Not even a glimmer of light to illuminate even the tiniest part of the darkness. And in that darkness there is no room for hope. No chance to dream or wish for a brighter tomorrow. Just a futureless existence. With Cleverley passing sideways all the fecking time.
Wit toxt
 
"There's a lot of work going on behind the scenes, watch this space".

What a gobshite.
 
He's got to sign a decent CB, surely? We can still get by with a shit midfield but definitely not a defence filled with Jones/Smalling/Rafael who are injury nutjobs.
 
Jaysus guys. There's still 3 weeks to go. Stop getting your knickers in a twist.
 
Jaysus guys. There's still 3 weeks to go. Stop getting your knickers in a twist.

Two weeks ago people were saying "only 5 weeks to go blah blah".. we all know when the window closes but as off right now, despite the same old crap in the papers every morning there is nothing concrete regarding us and new arrivals (which even with the genius that is LVG, we need badly).

It's time for Ed to stop talking us up to be the biggest club in the world and start proving it.
 
We have bought two new players though. 3 more needed minimum. Half way there at least. But the season starts soon!
 
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Jaysus guys. There's still 3 weeks to go. Stop getting your knickers in a twist.

This is true, things may well still work out fine.

Leaving the amount of business we need done (maybe three players?) this late in the transfer window is hardly ideal though. It's a bit early to condemn Woodward but he certainly isn't covering himself in glory. He really needs to deliver something soon or we'll be falling back into the realm of deadline day stupidity for the second year in a row.
 
You are both penciled in for meltdown watch come September 2nd

Ive been supporting MUFC for 25+ years and nothing could have prepared me for what happened last transfer window....after that, I knew it could never get that bad again, the club wouldn't allow it. There is too much at stake for a club of this magnitude.

Woodward may be inexperienced, but LVG is a genius and will not allow us to fail.
If LVG wasn't here Id be as nervous as you are, but he is here and I feel confident.
 
in the 'watch this space' interview he mentioned how they monitor social media to gauge how the fans feel

for those have slated our Ed I'd be very worried.

Like Liam Neeson he will find you and with help from the heavies from our offical noodle partners he will exact retribution
 
I'm usually not very optomistic about us in transfer market these days. Most of the signs point to no signings or possibly one 'underwhelming' one, possibly even as late as deadline day.

But I can't shake the feeling that we're going to do something big from nowhere. And that it'll possibly be a fee that even surprises us.

Part of me has this weird feeling.
The rest of me, however, believes that the owners are pretty much done, as far as a budget goes (because regardless of what Woodward says, I personally believe that we work on a budget, though not out of financial restraints) and that Woodward couldn't sign a serious marquee player even if he wanted to. £60 million spent; job done; hope the new manager gets overachieves.

I really dont have a clue. It's just case of sitting back and watching. I hope that little feeling is right.
 
But Woodward, at the end of the day, is our Chief Executive and he is the individual tasked with bringing new blood into the club. If he's not capable of doing that then surely he's not suitable for the demands of the job itself. I mean, I could have a good go at bringing top talent to the club and by that logic, if I was unable to do so, would I then be absolved of blame, and keep my position, because after all the "player refused to come?" Ed is our chief negotiator, and as such I would expect a certain level of competence, quite distinct from my own, or any other pleb's, when it comes to the complex work of player transfers. He is the man who is meant to have the requisite skill set when making decisions on matters of contact so surely it's just too simplistic to give him a free-pass if he's "tried really hard" but the player still wouldn't come. Other teams are able to conduct their business with few problems so why should we be any different?
Mind you, like you say, none of us here know who the manager wants to sign, so we don't have a definite measure from which to judge "failure" or otherwise, but that is yet another device that could be used to excuse possible incompetence, and without all the relevant information we'll never truly know.
I actually feel that LVG has to some extent put the breaks the club's transfer business, and is busy trying to assess the squad at his disposal. I would be inclined, in accepting that fact, to give Woodward some leeway but I just wish he'd kept his pie-hole firmly shut and not gone all uber-muppet in that now infamous MUTV interview.

I agree. The guy in charge is judged by results - doing his best doesn't cut it. It's not an impossible job - other clubs have gotten it done.

If Woody hired a manager who wants to take the long, slow twisty way up the mountain when the club needs to take the express elevator, that's his fault as well. He should have gotten all that sorted with Van Gaal before he offered him the job. It was vital that United chose a manager whose philosophy was compatible with the club's requirements.
 
Shades of Christian Nerlinger's time at Bayern who was simply incapable of bringing in the players the coach demanded.
 
Woodward will never get fired, nor should he. Him and Richard Arnold are what you could call financial geniuses who have rebuilt our entire commercial structure, resulting in a massive increase in earnings. The best example is how they played Nike, Adidas, Warrior and Puma against each other and we all know the result. It's unheard of how we could get more than twice as much as Real Madrid in a year we came 7th in the league..only £40m less than the Glazer paid for United.

That being said, he needs to deliver what LVG asks (which may or may not include Vidal) or he will have to give that bit of his job to someone else.
 
Woodward will never get fired, nor should he. Him and Richard Arnold are what you could call financial geniuses who have rebuilt our entire commercial structure, resulting in a massive increase in earnings. The best example is how they played Nike, Adidas, Warrior and Puma against each other and we all know the result. It's unheard of how we could get more than twice as much as Real Madrid in a year we came 7th in the league..only £40m less than the Glazer paid for United.

That being said, he needs to deliver what LVG asks (which may or may not include Vidal) or he will have to give that bit of his job to someone else.
I think, if he fails and the failure is indeed his, him ''giving up that aspect of his job'' to someone else is the best solution going forward because financially he is such an import cog to the commercial machine. I've always believed that we need to bring someone at executive level with a track record on the football side of things like transfers, player contracts etc. What we call that person I don't know/care but I think an out and out DOF will result in conflict with the manager which might prove to be counter productive.
 
Wonder what possessed him to do a interview and make over the top declarations in it.

We'll only know come the end of the month. Jury is still out on him, but is it really so hard for everyone to just wait till the window actually shuts?
 
We'll only know come the end of the month. Jury is still out on him, but is it really so hard for everyone to just wait till the window actually shuts?

Well he acted as if some deals were very close and big ones at that. And then that Watch this space and lots of work being done comment etc..

He could have played it down and just repeated LVG comments etc.. if he wanted.

Anyway, let's see till end of August.
 
This dude has basically ensured that even if we become cannon-fodder for the top teams and struggle to reach the 35 point safety barrier we'll still earn more than every other club in the PL.

He will not be sacked at all.

From a fans perspective, yes I am pissed off he came up with that crap about watching the space, but what should he have said? We've got deals going on in the background? I can't comment on anything right now?

Either way, whatever he would have said, we'd still be here moaning about no players regardless of whether he had kept his trap shut.
 
Woodward's released a song, pleading for muppets to give him time. He's apparently a big Bee Gees fan

Hittin' F5

Well you can tell by the way I walk,
I’m a Glazer man, I talk and talk
The muppets loud and Twitter’s on,
I’ve been picked apart since Moyes is gone
But now it’s all right, that’s OK
Louis may look the other way
But he can try to understand
Why I need that Chilean man

Whether you’re a muppet or a T0p R3d, feck it
You’re hittin' F5, hittin' F5
What's DiMarzio sayin', and Red Café's strainin'
You’re a-hittin' F5, hittin' F5
Ah, ah, ah, ah, hittin' F5
Ah, ah, ah, ah, hittin' F Fiiii-i-i-i-ive
 
Anyone suggesting he's going to be fired because LVG doesn't want wholesale signings is a complete moron.
 
Good people of RedCafe! Use your common sense.. It is Louis van Gaal who decides the players to go for - Woodward got feck all to do with that. If LvG *really* wants a certain player we'll pull out all stops to get him.
 
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