It's only a couple of weeks ago some paper in Spain linked us to Suarez. Of course they are making stuff up.
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Oh for God sake.
When did you start using big words (that don't even exist)?
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Might get his hero, Cavani, for a fiver now
Well that's certainly a possibility but in the case of the Kaka rumour, you knew where it came from. If you dont know where it came from, how do you know it's made up?
Are you saying you dont think Ed works on deals? I guess Scholes knows feck all as well despite being asked his views of Woodward so far.
I think the press are but I dont think the likes of Mitten, Ducker, Taylor, and Ogden are making it up willy nilly. It does sell hits but you denying it as something that could be actually true is a bit odd.
You still have yet to answer how you know for a fact if it's made up?
Todays papers say
Shaw bid rejected
Alexis rejects us
Cant only blame woodward, but he is the one responsible for transfers and he should take responsibility. Just like moyes had to when the team font perform. Still he has till 1 st september. If we dont sign good players and hence dont do well. It wont be lvg people will be blaming, it will be woodward and the glazers. It will be hateful and could destablise the club as a whole.
Shaw bid rejected
Alexis rejects us
Cant only blame woodward, but he is the one responsible for transfers and he should take responsibility. Just like moyes had to when the team font perform. Still he has till 1 st september. If we dont sign good players and hence dont do well. It wont be lvg people will be blaming, it will be woodward and the glazers. It will be hateful and could destablise the club as a whole.
You can sort of blame Woody for the first as negotiating with other clubs forms a large part of what transfers are about, but I don't see how you can blame him if Alexis really did reject us (and both are pure paper speculation as well). If that were true, we should have blamed Gill for Hazard picking Chelsea, or Lucas picking PSG, Nasri picking City, Bale joining Tottenham, Ramsey Arsenal etc etc
I honestly don't get why people are so quick to judge when the window isn't anywhere close to being closed. If we reach the end of the window and have signed no-one like so many doomsayers seem to think, then Woody should be rightfully blamed and suffer the consequences. Until then, we should be patient. Other than Chelsea, none of the other big English clubs have announced any big transfer coups. Even the Costa signing which everyone was commenting on a few weeks ago about "how quick Chelsea seems to get their business done" hasn't even been properly announced by the clubs involved yet, and that seems to have been an easy "trigger the release clause" type deal. So basically the only major deal involving the big English clubs is Fabregas, a player that Barcelona were super keen to flog, and for whom Chelsea were the only club interested and Sagna, a free transfer that's been nailed on for months.
Ed Woodward is just so uninspiring. You look at David Gill and he is very businesslike. Woodward looks like he has just rolled out of bed and he doesn't exactly have the most intelligent face. Sometimes first impressions can make or break a deal and LvG is going to throttle him when he gets here.
Let's not make out Gill didn't screw a few deals up.
First impressions are usually shoving cash to the other clubs and that is what the club has to do. We need to overpay this summer.
Good CEOs get the job done no matter the obstacles. Bad ones find excuses why it wasn't their fault. We'll see which Woodward turns out to be.
Very level minded post buddy and agree totally with you.
Maybe that is the big problem, when SAF was there it happened, now Ed doesn't want to do that. Problem we are all speculating. It just doesn't look good. After working at Bayern and Barcelona, LvG must think Ed is a bit of a clown.
This post is uninspiring and bizarre on so many levels.
You're joking right? SAF was dead against overpaying for players, especially in his latter years.
Woodward on the other hand, wants to overpay for players to show that the club can financially compete. He is desperate for a big money signing, which is why he wanted to sign Cavani.
And yes you are speculating. You don't know what LVG thinks of Woodward.
Neither do you. So there.
Ed is just a puppet, the Glazers are pulling the strings. He was brought in to make them money not to spend it. He has done nothing at all yet to deserve any respect from United fans. So we have a puppet responsible for signing players to make us transfer muppets happy.
Nothing has changed. Stop whining.
This thread basically confirms my suspicion that approximately 70% of opinions on the caf are based on the physical appearance of players/managers/people/leafy greens.
We can't properly judge the guy until this summer transfer window is over, it's not fair to get on his back already. If we still haven't brought in good signings by mid-to-late August, then you can start getting on his back a little.
The idea was to get signings done and dusted before the pre-season tour. The window opens on 1st July so if any have already been tied up they should be completed straight away. By mid to late August the league is already under way (kick off Sat 16th August) so that's just far too late to be signing new players in view of the number we need - unless, of course, we get to the desperation straits of last Summer.
Yeah fair enough. My point I'm trying to get at is that there's plenty of time to still get deals done, so we shouldn't start to panic just yet.
Agreed, though if things are going ok we should be seeing signs of movement when the window opens. I'd be expecting to see at least one or two signings by the end of July. Let's face it, Van Gaal arrives in mid July at the latest (could be earlier depending on Holland's progress at the WC) so he'll no doubt be keen to have the new signings in place around that time. That's only 4 weeks away.
Just watching and waiting.
we should let him do the sponsorship deals where he is good at and bring in someone (Gary Neville?) with a knowledge in football to at least support him with player deals.
Sometimes I think he is hindered by the Glazers lack of ambition but then he makes bumper deal with Rooney or they pay lots of money for Mata / Fellaini.
Vermalen o the other hand is typical Glazer deals, lokking for the cheap iso the best solution. We could have wrapped up Garay long ago but some reason they never went for him which is a mistake. Same with Strootman last summer.
The number of mistakes we have made in the market is alarmingly!
Sometimes I think he is hindered by the Glazers lack of ambition but then he makes bumper deal with Rooney or they pay lots of money for Mata / Fellaini.
Vermalen o the other hand is typical Glazer deals, lokking for the cheap iso the best solution. We could have wrapped up Garay long ago but some reason they never went for him which is a mistake. Same with Strootman last summer.
The number of mistakes we have made in the market is alarmingly!
Why must the Vermaelen deal be a 'Glazer deal'? Is it so impossible to believe that LVG wants Vermaelen?
Bringing in Gary Neville to help with transfers
Christ. Moyes vetoed the Garay deal.
The number of mistakes in that post is alarming.
Bringing in Gary Neville to help with transfers
Christ. Moyes vetoed the Garay deal.The number of mistakes in that post is alarming.
I feel sure SAF gave us a hint at what we were looking for, "value". I believe we are still looking for value. There is still time of course but Ed seriously needs to make a big signing soon to show that he is capable. The fact that he is a Glazer yes man had me suspicious of him from the start. And up until now nothing has happened to change my view of him. During the last summer transfer window he helped make us look silly. And he is continuing to do the same in this one. I sure hope he does something good soon. The squad needs serious investment.
Another newbie and another poor post.
Firstly Van Gaal has worked with Vermalen. This screams his type of signing. Also Van Gaal signs players who fit his system not big names.
Gary Neville? You really think Woodward wants him without consenting LVG?
Bojan11, you didn't get anything from what I 've written
Because it's a load of bollocks.
Moyes didn't want Strootman and Garay, so I don't know why you are blaming Woodward. We over paid for Mata and Fellaini yet you moaning that we go after cheap signings.
Do you think Woodward is signing players without consenting Van Gaal? Why do we need Gary Neville? How does Neville know how to close a deal? He's never worked as a director of football.
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read first, then post
where do I blame Woodward for not signing them? Nowhere!
where do I say Woodward signs players wo LvG input? Nowhere!
You can't deny we made many mistakes with him at the helm, wheather its down to him or the Glazers or the mangers is the question but we made mistake after mistake. That's only my point of view that we should hvae signed those 2 players
Thank you for that insight of your get rich quick scheme...
Thank you for that insight of your get rich quick scheme...
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You need to read what you post and where you post.
First you say you want Gary Neville to sort out transfers. Which is criticism to Woodward that he is incapable of doing his job and you want to hire someone who most likely has less knowledge than Woodward on how to deal in transfers.
You posting all that rubbish in the Ed Woodward thread in case you haven't noticed. You then say Vermaelen is the cheap signing Glazers go for. Do you really think the Glazers or Woodward would identify him? It's LVG signing all written over it.
A lot of presumptions on your part, by "Glazer signing" I don't think he meant the Glazers went out and purchased player X, more that while under ownership of the Glazers, this is a common buy and I'm sure understood @red_7 post, you just seem to type with an air of authority when its clear you didn't spend more than a few minutes before replying yourself.
On the twitter, Vermaelen would be a good buy IMO and given time in the first XI, I think he could build quite some form, but obviously it's all speculation
The most important change imo was to get an experienced manager in and we did that. I think LvG will get more from this group of players than Moyes and I'm confident that he'll built a side capable of winning trophies. With Woodward we have to wait and see what the outcome is in august, but he has to deliver signings because we need strenghtening.
Literally the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.
I understand that you have absolutely nothing to base your opinions of Woodward on other than looks but that doesn't mean you should.
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