People in Woodwards position can't really be given too much time though, if you aren't good at your job it's no different to being manager, it doesn't matter how many commercial deals he's brought in. Other clubs manage to get by when they sack and replace mangers on a regular basis, it should be no different here. He fecked up last summer big time, and he simply can't do it again. He was briefing that 2 deals were done, which was incredibly naive considering they were thinking about sacking Moyes At the same time. There's a long way to go this summer but he just seems like a complete amateur.
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Fair point but we don't have any idea if it was Moyes' or Woodward' mistake that. Especially considering that Moyes knew on details his contract and how does Everton deals with situation. He said for example that until on last moment we made only double bids for him and Baines because while they need money, if they sell one they would be financially ok and wouldn't need to sell an another player.
For this year we don't have any idea what are LVG plans, so would be pretty stupid to say that Woodward isn't doing his job well when we don't know what players is LVG targeting (or is he targeting someone already) and it is possible that he won't want any player that we scouted last year. He didn't played Timoschuck (or whatever was his name) and Gomez (despite being the all time transfer record on Germany) for Bayern because they weren't players he wanted. Same thing can happen here if we sing someone that we don't want.
The only thing Woody has been doing bad (IMO) is the leaking on the media, but anyway I don't think that there is any harm on that, and ultimatelly while it is a bit cnutish, it is pointless on the grand scheme of things.
I've followed the Twitter thread for a full year. It's just reading it this Summer is getting more frustrating as more Caftards seem to cling to every word written in them.
Andy Mitten is decent, but doesn't actually tweet that much.
That's their fault if they end up going down a bad trail. But I'm telling you there are reliable accounts on twitter regarding transfer news. Just not many.
I've followed the Twitter thread for a full year. It's just reading it this Summer is getting more frustrating as more Caftards seem to cling to every word written in them.
Andy Mitten is decent, but doesn't actually tweet that much.
Nobody likes him cause we still havent sign anyone. But I bet when we'll sign few players some twitter guy will claim it was all fergie's and gill's work and everyone will believe him. As it is with mata situation. Its that or we didnt really need him.. he just cant win.. and of course everbody believe fergie and gill despise him and he leaked moyes'sack and fergie retirement despite the fact its probably not true. And yeah its so great fergie and gill despisw him,it doesnt matter fergie picked moyes and woodward trusted his decision.. of course I'll be the first to sat he's an amateur if our transfers this summer go wrong but some people overreact and base their opinion on some twitter bollocks..
fecking cabbage.
Sealed!
Fergie and Gil aren't working together anymore, they retired...Fergie doesn't even have the authority to do transfer business.
He also said that Fergie was in cahoots with the glazers in sucking money out of the club. So surely on that basis you'll think SAF is a cnut and his opinion on the matter would be worthless right? Not that I for one minute think SAF is a cnut.
So people are taking the word of some journalist that no one has actually heard of as fact?
It's like the blind leading the dumb.
It's like the blind leading the dumb.
Again it depends on what you wish to believe. Some fans would choose to call Fergie a cnut for his "real fans" comment and then taking on Magnier & Mcmanus thereby risking the health of the club.
i wouldn say Fergie's opinion is worthless. where did he say he was in "cahoots with the glazers" is that in relation to him and gill despising Ed (which i find amusing).
No, he tweeted the other day basically saying that Ferguson was involved, or played a part in sucking money out of the club with the glazers. Or something applied or other along those lines.
So if we're going to trust what this tosser says, then anyone who hates glazers for taking money out of the club should also hate Ferguson.
The point I'm trying to make, feck this no mark journalist.
well keep in mind most of the information he tweeted came from daniel taylor. He has also was part of an interview with tim sherwood and he's interviewed, graeme sharp, eamonn holmes, and other people involved with the game. My memory fails me right now but it's not like he's some random blogger or summat.
Basically cabbages cost whatever you want them to, just believe whatever report fits your desired narrative best.
Oh i didn see that sorry. Well if you choose to ignore the other feelings you have towards SAF then perhaps? THat's interesting as Andy Green or @andersred on twitter regards de brun as someone with solid info and others have too. That's why I started looking at his account. Admittedly, I dont take everything he says as gospel but on the moyes bit and a few other things he's been spot on.
If I remember right you asked me the other day about how would I know Ed if is the one who's been briefing to the media. If so Mitten wrote about it in an article a few weeks ago.
Should we start a #woodwardout trend on twitter? That will show them, i think it would get some kind of message across.
Only joking
Only joking
You remember wrong.
Of course he is and his attitude is a disgrace. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/ed-woodward-manchester-united-can-6373895
He has to say that.
That was me, and you're right
What did you expect him to say?
We're fecked?
And good to see he's saying renaming OT is out of the question.
ok my bad then
Ah okay. glad to clear that up. and yeah i agree, didn see much wrong with what ed said there. If anything it shows how he's very good at coming up with good selling points about United which to be fair was his formal role. I know our fans like that we arent apart of Wyscout which is basically a summit for agents but I think tapping into it would be helpful for Ed. We seemed to have lost some contacts/relationships when Gill left.
As much as I loathe Ed Woodward for his seemless inability to finalize transfers and put anyone at ease, and more annoyed by David Gill's promotion of this man. In the end, it'll be Woodwards faults if we cannot get any new players in of high enough quality, however, I do feeel David Gill should shoulder some of the blame as it was him who nominated this conehead for the position. Whatever he saw in him, nobody else seems to be able to. I'm litterally affraid of our direction as a club with this man as our Chief Exec.
are you sure that Ed was promoted by Gill? Afaik Ed s major backers are the glazers
Pretty sure it was the glazers as well
Gill did not nominate Woodward to replace him, that was the Glazers' decision . Also the fact is we have missed out on high profile signings for the bigger part of two decades but now it appears more pronounced because we are desperately lacking in key areas - a result of under or misdirected investment, depending on where you are looking from . Funny how previous CEOs weren't lynched for missing out on targets like Ronaldinho, Lucas, Nasri, Hazard, Robben and Essien to name just a few . Whilst a disastrous transfer window is looking more likely there are plenty of reasons, credible reasons, that could be used in his defence such as the change in management which has obviously led to an inevitable change in targets and the fact that we do not have any European football to offer making things more difficult and in some cases impossible .
Where I would blame Woodward and Van Gaal is if they refuse to accept reality and run around Europe like a bull on viagra with their cocks out bidding for every world class player around .
We need to be sober in our approach and take an incremental improvement approach because we are not that far behind . We need not to act like we need to prove a point to the world or believe the shit being puked around that we have a midtable squad . We have a base to build on, some very good players plus three world class performers
. Whilst signing the likes of Vidal would be ideal it won't be the end of the world if don't get anyone in that bracket, let's look at where the next Vidal is, the next Bastien or the next Keane, we should sign players with the attributes we need then look to build on from that . How do Dortmund manage to replace Sahin with a perfect Paul Scholes replacement whilst we spend half a decade searching ? Let's hunt where they are hunting and stop this nonsense of raiding Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others in a better position than us .
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The man is a cnut.
Is Woodward on annual leave? He seems to save up his holiday allowance for this time of year doesn't he?
Did we ever care this much about Gill, even in the worst of transfer windows? Jeez..
Why?
Well we had Fergie to soak up all the pressure and make the excuses when we missed out on the likes of Sanchez, Hazard, Nasri and co. Now it's just a free for all.
Obviously it's a concern but at the end of the day unless he's really, really, thick there's no way Woodward wouldn't have learnt from the shambles of last summer. He knows the fans demand some quality signings to sort the team out so going to reserve judgement for now, he won't want to look like an idiot again and he sorted out the Mata deal alright so we shouldn't be too critical of him just yet.
Why?
Yes because Moyes basically passed the buck last summer, classy guy that he is.
Wut ?
I share your sentiments but I think it was the poison dwarf and his odious offspring that installed Woodward. A nice thank you present for facilitating the take over.
He is a man without qualities.
HE INTERVIEWED EAMONN HOLMES????
I take it all back, this guy is clearly a deity of football knowledge.
The more he speaks the more he look like a hated politician, counting profits while club is still in debt and undeniable football crisis. If we won't attract quality players no one will buy the feckin shirts with likes of Buttner or Young. We need breakthrough actions to put Manchester United brand back on very top.
Big hope in LVG... a hope to show Ed his place in this club and get him to real work not some PR bullshit. Does Ed's totally negative figure in this club ? Not really. He's banging sponsorship deals like a madman but one thing is to make money and other is to have ability to invest... takes some balls too.
So far time is working against Wooden Ed... not until our cards on the market shall be officially revealed with the long awaited seal of completion.
Big hope in LVG... a hope to show Ed his place in this club and get him to real work not some PR bullshit. Does Ed's totally negative figure in this club ? Not really. He's banging sponsorship deals like a madman but one thing is to make money and other is to have ability to invest... takes some balls too.
So far time is working against Wooden Ed... not until our cards on the market shall be officially revealed with the long awaited seal of completion.
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