With a fully fit squad, what is our best xi according to you?

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We’ve a fair amount of choice. Some mightn’t be your cup of tea, but now you can just pick someone else, which wasn’t quite possible the last couple of seasons.

Who goes into your very best United xi from this squad?
 
For the most part, fully fit

....................Onana..........

Dalot...De Ligt...Martinez...Shaw

.....................Ugarte..........
............Fernandes....Mainoo.....

...Diallo.........Hojlund.....Garnacho...

But for some games, especially versus better teams or tougher away games

....................Onana...........
Dalot.......De Ligt..Martinez...Shaw...
.....................Ugarte.......
...........Casemiro......Mainoo.....
..................Fernandes........
........Hojlund...............Garnacho...
 
For the most part, fully fit

....................Onana..........

Dalot...De Ligt...Martinez...Shaw

.....................Ugarte..........
............Fernandes....Mainoo.....

...Diallo.........Hojlund.....Garnacho...

But for some games, especially versus better teams or tougher away games

....................Onana...........
Dalot.......De Ligt..Martinez...Shaw...
.....................Ugarte.......
...........Casemiro......Mainoo.....
..................Fernandes........
........Hojlund...............Garnacho...
That first team mentioned there would probably be mine too at the moment with the exception of keeper - I can’t stand Onana - I think he’s abysmal, I’d honestly pick Bayindir or Heaton before him but that’s just me!

Also interested in time when everyone is fit how much pressure Mazraoui can put on Dalot.
 
Onana

Dalot
Martinez
De Ligt
Shaw

Ugarte
Mainoo
Bruno

Garnacho
Hojlund
Rashford

Rashford should be dropped but I just don’t think Amad is ready to be playing 30+ games this season. We need a LB because of Shaw’s unreliability but we’re desperate for goals that front 3 is years away from being a consistent source of goals. I think Garnacho and Hojlund have real potential but at this moment in time it’s not enough
 
That first team mentioned there would probably be mine too at the moment with the exception of keeper - I can’t stand Onana - I think he’s abysmal, I’d honestly pick Bayindir or Heaton before him but that’s just me!

Also interested in time when everyone is fit how much pressure Mazraoui can put on Dalot.

Yeah I like the looks of mazraoui, realistically shaw is so unfit we will keep seeing both, but that said i do feel like dalot keeps improving. he's turning into a very good all round passer and more and more confident on the ball.
 
Onana
Dalot De Ligt Martinez Shaw
Bruno Ugarte Mainoo
Garnacho Hojlund Rashford​

I think it's pretty 50/50 with Hojlund/Zirkzee and Rashford/Garna/Amad, while Mazraoui can rotate to get a very similar level in at full back. Importantly, Rashford suits Zirkzee better while Amad suits Hojlund better, while Garnacho is better on the right but also the most impactful one IMO. Obviously a lot of guys are way out of form or always injured. I'm sure Yoro will be rotating there pretty evenly, while Casemiro and Mount are weird ones right now as I can see them giving us better balance in the right system but depends on for who and under what system.
 
Onana
Dalot De Ligt Yoro Shaw
Ugarte
Mount - Mainoo
Zirkzee - Bruno - Garnacho​
 
Onana
Dalot De Ligt Yoro Martinez (don't think Shaw can be banked on as a squad member)
Mainoo Ugarte
Amad Mount Bruno Rashford

Don't think that team makes the top 5 in this league though. Squad is very lacking in attacking area.
 
I'd try a new 343 formation. Something like:

Onana
Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez
Dalot - Mainoo - Ugarte - Shaw
Bruno - Hojlund - Garnacho​
 
Onana
Mazraoui De Ligt Yoro Dalot
Ugarte Mainoo
Amad Bruno Garnacho
Hojlund
Which I guess turns into
Onana


De Ligt. Yoro
Ugarte


Mazraoui Mainoo
Dalot
Amad Bruno
Garnacho
Hojlund
 
Are we assuming Ten Hag level shit tactics? Or do I get to play how I want? Because that probably factors in either way.

Onana

Dalot De Ligt/Yoro Martinez Shaw

Ugarte Mainoo (double pivot)

Amad Bruno Garnacho

Hojlund
No we are assuming you know more than a professional football manager
 
Christmas Tree anyone? Fernandes very deep a la Pirlo, so that it becomes a 4141 when defending.

Onana
Mazraoui DeLigt Martinez Shaw
Ugarte Fernandes Mainoo
Garnacho Zirkzee
Hoijlund
 
442

Dalot De Ligt Yoro Shaw
Bruno Ugarte Mainoo Garnacho
Hojlund Zirkzee

433 holy trinity

Dalot De Ligt Yoro Shaw
Bruno Ugarte Mainoo
Garnacho Hojlund Rashford
 
Onana
Dalot De Ligt Martinez Shaw
Mainoo Ugarte
Garnacho Mount Rashford
Hojlund


Wouldn't have both Bruno and Rashford in one playing X1. It's tough enough to play with one luxury player. To play with both who find it beneath themselves for basic defensive duties won't make a team.
 
Ugarte-Casemiro at the base with Bruno as ACM would do for now, We can bring in Mason/Mainoo a bit later.
and front 3 of Garancho--Hoijlund--Amad
 
Onana
Mazraoui De Ligt Martinez Shaw
Mount Ugarte Mainoo
Garnacho Hojlund Rashford

Don't like Rashford there at all, but Garnacho looks miles better on the right than the left to me.
 
Onana

Dalot
De Ligt/Yoro
Martinez
Shaw

Ugarte
Mainoo
Fernandes

Amad
Hojlund
Garnacho

The midfield area is the problem area, and we probably need two next summer. I think Wharton, Ugarte, Mainoo could work, but the balance is totally off currently and options are limited.
 
Tried this and I still don’t like our squad. We've replaced loads of players and have still somehow ended up with a squad that doesn’t really work together. Midfielders who don’t complement each other, forwards who don’t score, a hodge podge of defenders, and a wank goalie.

Hopefully Ineos have a plan and this is the early stages of it and none of us can see the beautiful end product. I reckon we’re replacing half the current squad in a season or two, including half of the players we’ve brought in this summer.
 
Something to add under you best eleven, would be where you see that team finishing in the table.

Most of these line-ups look like a 4th at best kinda team.
 
What I want to see

Garnacho --- Zirkzee -- Amad

------Bruno ---------- Mainoo
---------------Ugarte--

I genuinely think that Bruno and Mainoo can work as CM controllers. And Zirkzee will be best forward. Defense is good, and midfield (imho) is pretty good also. But we may need to wait for a new manager that favor more game control.

The attack still look very weak, if we do want to start challenging for the League. Even with City's midfield, that attack would probably land them 3rd in the League.
 
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Onana
Shaw
Leny yoro
De ligt
Dalot
Mainoo
Ugarte
Fernandes
Garnacho
No idea, probably amad
Hojlund
 
============Onana=========
Maz=====DE Ligt===Martinez====Shaw
=====Ugarte==Mainoo==Casemiro====
Amad=====Bruno====Garnacho
 
Onana
Dalot De Ligt Martinez Shaw
Mainoo Ugarte
Garnacho Mount Rashford
Hojlund


Wouldn't have both Bruno and Rashford in one playing X1. It's tough enough to play with one luxury player. To play with both who find it beneath themselves for basic defensive duties won't make a team.
Finally some sense. If we are to play the way ETH prefers, one of these two and preferably both cannot play.
 
....................Onana..........

Mazraoui ...De Ligt...Maguire...Shaw

.....................Ugarte..........
............Mount....Mainoo.....

...Diallo.........Hojlund.....Garnacho...

Maguire vs Martinez is a close one, but based on what I've seen so far this season, I've gone with Maguire.
If Rashford returns to form (a big if) I would possibly play him ahead of Garnacho. Neither Rashford or Garnacho are effective on the RHS.
I would have Casemiro deputise for Mainoo to give him a rest from time to time.
 
Onana
Mazraoui De Ligt Yoro Dalot
Ugarte Casemiro
Mainoo
Amad Zirksee Garnacho.


Hojlund and Zirksee is basically a push.
Maguire for Yoro until he returns.

It looks very Europa leaguey at best whatever way you look at it.
 
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If everyone was fit:
Onana
Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez
Maz, Ugarte, Mainoo, Shaw
Amad, Hojlund, Garnacho.

3-4-3

Bruno and Rashford do not deserve to start. Simple as.

Amad Hojlund and Garnacho will carry the attacking load, assisted from time to time by Maz and Shaw.

Ugarte, Mainoo and the back 3 barely pass the halfway line and play close together.
 
Bayindir
Mazraoui De Ligt Yoro Dalot
Ugarte Mainoo
Amad Bruno Garnacho
Hojlund

Not gonna pretend that Shaw is capable of full fitness.

Yoro over Martinez is a bold claim. We'd have to see Yoro play at least one game to have any idea if that claim holds up.

But the other bold claim is Bayandir over Onana. We've only see Bayandir once but he looked good enough to me to at least warrant ETH giving him some games. Onana has been given too long of a leash and at this point needs to be held accountable for his poor performances, especially with respect to shot stopping. And his distribution isn't anything special either.
 
Tried this and I still don’t like our squad. We've replaced loads of players and have still somehow ended up with a squad that doesn’t really work together. Midfielders who don’t complement each other, forwards who don’t score, a hodge podge of defenders, and a wank goalie.

Hopefully Ineos have a plan and this is the early stages of it and none of us can see the beautiful end product. I reckon we’re replacing half the current squad in a season or two, including half of the players we’ve brought in this summer.
:lol: Now that’s a sell!
 
Play the fecking diamond, our midfield is too weak to play other formations.
 
:lol: Now that’s a sell!
True to his name.

Also weird how no one else wants to see Hojlund and Zirkzee play together in a 442/4411, the latter likes to drop deep and hpoefully give Hoj some service.
 
________________Onana
Mazraoui __De Ligt__Martinez__Dalot
___________Ugarte____Mainoo
_______________Zirkzee
Amad_________Hojlund______Garnacho

I know that leaves out Bruno and he's a top player on form, but we don't have enough goals and I think this team could potentially.
 
Onana
Dalot Matthjis Leny Shaw
Ugarte Mainoo
Mount
Amad Højlund Rashford

In terms of balance anyway. If this group is deployed properly with no suicidal tactics we should be a proper challenge for any team in the league. Enough defensive steel, technically capable players with workrate in addition to enough pace upfront. But we'll never see this team start a game. Bruno will always be in and I only left out Martinez because imo Yoro is much better equipped to defend the channels if we're going to play a fairly high line. When you look at it keenly we do have some quality in this team. It's up to the manager now.
 
Yoro over Martinez is a bold claim. We'd have to see Yoro play at least one game to have any idea if that claim holds up.

But the other bold claim is Bayandir over Onana. We've only see Bayandir once but he looked good enough to me to at least warrant ETH giving him some games. Onana has been given too long of a leash and at this point needs to be held accountable for his poor performances, especially with respect to shot stopping. And his distribution isn't anything special either.

Yoro I assume had a good season last year. We paid a lot for him and psg and real wanted him. Martinez was injured and when played quite dodgy (due to a lack of matches I hope and assume). Right now I would suggest he starts if fit based on recent form.
 
Tried this and I still don’t like our squad. We've replaced loads of players and have still somehow ended up with a squad that doesn’t really work together. Midfielders who don’t complement each other, forwards who don’t score, a hodge podge of defenders, and a wank goalie.

Hopefully Ineos have a plan and this is the early stages of it and none of us can see the beautiful end product. I reckon we’re replacing half the current squad in a season or two, including half of the players we’ve brought in this summer.
Agree with this. When you go through the players it isn't easy to see a coherent and balanced team. Big job to do
 
Onana
Dalot Maguire De Ligt Shaw
Ugarte Mount Mainoo
Amad Bruno Garnacho
 
--------------Onana
Maz---MDL--Martinez--Shaw
-------Ugarte--Mainoo
Amad----Bruno---Rashford
-------------Hojlund

Rotation options : Dalot, Yoro, Mount, Garnacho, Zirkzee
 
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