.. with one guy who happens to be pretty good at tennis.
Wimbledon 2012
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Come on Andy!
He can win it, probably wont though but it's nice he made the final and finally nobody can even doubt that he's a far better player than that banana munching twat "come on Timothy" Henman.
He can win it, probably wont though but it's nice he made the final and finally nobody can even doubt that he's a far better player than that banana munching twat "come on Timothy" Henman.
Before the semi Djokovic said a closed roof would suit him because the courts get slower. if that's the case it would help Murray greatly. what's the logic behind it helping the servers?
was Murray in the same classroom as that in which the shooting took place? The news that day was horrible (as a 12-year old Indian spending an year in UK, I was affected by it for a few days). If Andy Murray has overcome that to achieve what he has, it is amazing and he can have whatever personality he wants.
I can't believe anyone would think that Henman was better than Murray. No contest
What Murray has achieved is amazing regardless of that. People are ridiculous with their criticism of him being dour, boring, etc. How many people accusing him of these things would handle having a mic shoved in their face at every turn? He's just a normal guy. If he can't come across like a Hollywood star, big deal, he's there to play tennis.
I'll add to that and I've probably said it before but who really cares about his personality? Sampras was the most boring, personality void person ever, yet it didn't stop people respecting him because they understood that all he was interested in was the tennis. Ok Murray might not be as good but same applies. He's just not interested in being a celebrity. He sees no point in talking to the cameras, he just wants to play, shower and go home. Not answer the usual cliched crap questions.
He's a lot like our Scholes actually, he gets nothing but respect for being a miserable bugger who goes home before he has to do interviews and can't even be arsed to say a few words for the fans that come out to support the team even when he's got MOTM. Someone else picks up his champagne and we all laugh at our Scholesy.
The Sampras and Scholes comparisons don't hold up because they were both hugely entertaining to watch. Geniuses. On the court, Murray isn't very entertaining to watch.
So because he isn't as talented as them, we're not allowed to respect that he wants feck all to do with the namby pamby suck off Sue Barker type media work?
Like Henman, he's got to make up for his short comings with personality? No ta.
I like him, he seems down to earth and a droll, to be honest, if I was a professional sportsman I'd be the same miserable, dour cnut that he is with the media. Imagine having a load of dick head journalists asking the same shit questions and wording them so they get an answer they want all the time. Imagine having to hold a conversation with Sue Barker, John Inverdale or Andrew Castle. I shudder thinking about it.
Precisely. Well said
are all top sports stars a bit boring though?
I think they nearly have to be a bit socially reclusive to allow themselves the time and space to get to the top of their games.
Schumacher, Tiger woods, Sampras, Stephen Hendry etc etc are all hardly electric personalities. The are/were all a bit robotic, well the public side of them anyway but when they are/were in full flow at the top of their games they are/were a joy to watch.
Sure even our own giggsy has the charm of a plank of wood but he is a quality player.
No-body knows what these people are like in private around the people they are comfortable with. It doesnt matter, they are there to perform not to please the public.
I actually have to admit murray is growing on me. Its the pissin Brittish Broadcast media thats annoying.
I think they nearly have to be a bit socially reclusive to allow themselves the time and space to get to the top of their games.
Schumacher, Tiger woods, Sampras, Stephen Hendry etc etc are all hardly electric personalities. The are/were all a bit robotic, well the public side of them anyway but when they are/were in full flow at the top of their games they are/were a joy to watch.
Sure even our own giggsy has the charm of a plank of wood but he is a quality player.
No-body knows what these people are like in private around the people they are comfortable with. It doesnt matter, they are there to perform not to please the public.
I actually have to admit murray is growing on me. Its the pissin Brittish Broadcast media thats annoying.
Williams already 4-0 up, radwanska playing like she's feeling.
Williams shitting on Radwanska.
Hingis in the crowd.
Hingis in the crowd.
This is looking like a routine first round match for Serena.
Women's tennis always surprises me, in a negative way. The competition is just too weak, the finals are usually not exciting and poor tennis players can reach the finals.
This match is a joke for a final. Tomorrow's will probably not be too different.
I think tomorrow's game will be a cracker. The crowd will get behind Murray and Murray will raise his game. Still hope Federer will win it.
Hideous call let's Radwanska back into it.
Why does women's tennis get so much coverage? The standard is dire. Did it once have some respectability about it which has lingered into this decade, or is it more of a PC thing i.e. the prize money fiasco?
There aren't any true stars in the women's game anymore. The Williams Sisters are past their peak and the rest of the top players seem to be the generic Eastern European/former Soviet type. Before this happened, the women's game was a bit more interesting than the mens.
stupid williams bitch just cost me 50€
ahhhhhh feck online gambling!!
ahhhhhh feck online gambling!!
The way this is going, a Serena meltdown where she threatens to strangle a ball boy is imminent.
is williams collapsing?
It's weird how almost all the women players can go from great to shit in a matter of games so many times through a match.
Williams needs to improve her 1st serve if she wants to win the final. In the 2nd set her 1st serve was 54%. That Radwanska is like a little terrier: chasing and returning every ball.
Women's tennis has always been pretty shit TBH. You just don't get the same tension with three set matches and the standard is often pretty poor. Its ridiculous that they have prize money parity.
You think its ridiculous that men and women get paid the same for their professions ? Interesting.
They should all play in the same tournament then.
When one side does more work and gets paid the same?
There's also the debate about entertainment, although with that being subjective, you can't base a pay scale on it. But if women want the same as men, they can play the five sets too.
Poor stuff, to be fair. Women's tennis just isn't very good. And Serena's undergarments - is there any need.
Why ? they're biologically and physiologically different. That would be daft and unfair.
Williams has woken up again.
When they play five sets and attract the same advertisement revenues they are doing the same profession until then.......
And BTW - pretty much every otehr professional sport pays based on revenues. Women golfers earn no where near what the men to.
To be fair, the Williams Sisters were genuine stars, and where exciting for women's tennis when they came through. Problem is continuous domination gets very boring. People thought the men's game was in decline before Nadal came along to challenge the post Sampras Fed dominance.
Why should they get paid the same when they play worse, and less?
Men are stronger and generally have better endurance. That's not to say the entertainment factor for the Women's game is any less. The concept of paying one gender less because a segment of males aren't as entertained is a bit ridiculous.
Because people don't get to choose their gender and the physiological limitations of it. Women make the same effort out there as men, relative to the rules they've been given and shouldn't be paid any less.
I don't think you can compare ordinary professions with a sporting profession where men and women are already separated. Mens' tennis and women's tennis are two separate games.