Well, whoop doop dee doo for you. So're my four flat mates, in fact and a large enough chunk of my dislikeable extended family.DONADO said:In the Dubai Open..
And she's won a WTA event at Hyderabad.
And I'm Indian si I know.
Well, whoop doop dee doo for you. So're my four flat mates, in fact and a large enough chunk of my dislikeable extended family.DONADO said:In the Dubai Open..
And she's won a WTA event at Hyderabad.
And I'm Indian si I know.
CR7fan said:Is Roddick and Maria Sharapova still in the competition?
Unfortunately. Sharapova's not bad to watch on mute though.CR7fan said:Is Roddick and Maria Sharapova still in the competition?
heh heh..Ern said:Well, whoop doop dee doo for you. So're my four flat mates, in fact and a large enough chunk of my dislikeable extended family.
I know you're not. It's just the 99% of you that give the remaining 1% a bad name. Indian people are alright. I'm of Indian descent, though I don't feel remotely Indian.DONADO said:heh heh..
We're not all bad you know..
Clijsters was getting pulverised last I saw by the way.
Ern said:Oh and...
....Rebecca Cartwright, Hewitt's new missus.
You could say that.Slabber said:He's really traded up
Slabber said:He's really traded up
Ern said:Oh and...
....Rebecca Cartwright, Hewitt's new missus.
golden_blunder said:is that the bird from home and away?
golden_blunder said:shes tasty
Looking Busy said:she's also tubbed up (i think)
She's gone..was actually supporting the time-waster against Venus Williams but ah well..such is life.Melbourne Red said:Pierce through to the quarters. Lovely.
Ern said:One could say the same about Dementieva, tbh.
With regards to your point on strength in the women's game, I don't think it's true. The Williams' kind were unbeatable for a while, but then there came a time when there game became predictable and it became possible to circumvent their style of play using flair, although strength is necessary. But power hitting of that nature can be developed and added into the style of play as Justine Henin has done. At this stage, it's more important to have good fundamentals, rather than overwhelming power. And Sania Mirza has that, so there's hope.
Another player I really like watching is the 19th seed Ana Ivanovic. Personally, I'd love to see her or Dementieva win it, because they're interesting players to watch - especially Ivanovic who is a very creative player. Sharapova, though nice to watch is not really a favourite of mine for the needless sounds she makes and her style of tennis is very American - very predictable. Not denying that she has talent - she does have that, as well as strength, which makes her much more interesting to watch, compared to the Williams - but she doesn't make strokes like many European players.
The women's draw is open, really.
amolbhatia100 said:and with the amount of media attention and hype shes getting im pretty confident of her breaking the top 20 in a couple of years.
I'll agree. She's a much nicer person than Lleyton, if you ask me.Looking Busy said:Oi. Leave Kim alone.
I've met her a couple of times. A friend from uni is a friend of the family and she's lovely. She such a nice girl, really down to earth and friendly.
golden_blunder said:is that the bird from home and away?
Power is a great determining factor, if you read what I said. But it's not the only thing. The Williams and Serena in particular has a lot power, but they're not very intelligent and have very little creativity or flair. What Zvonereva did when she beat Venus Williams at Roland Garros 2003 was purely to keep the ball in play at all costs - not attempt to hit any winners, but just to make Venus run a bit and slowing the pace of the match. By constantly returning Venus' strokes, it pissed Venus off and she got angry and annoyed and didn't know what to do. Justine Henin did the same to Serena Williams in the semi-final of that year's tournament.amolbhatia100 said:Generally power is the determining factor.. honestly i still believe that had they continued to be serious abt tennis and not gotten distracted, serena in particular, would just be unstoppable. Even when you look at other grandslam winners since, sharapova,kutznetzova, or the no.1, davenport.. all of these hit the ball with tramedous power.. some more than others.
That's exactly what I was saying. Her match against Myskina showed her shortcomings - she was quite unable to hold service, especially in the last set where it mattered most. She really needs to work on that service, because I honestly believe she has better groundstrokes than any of the other Russians.amolbhatia100 said:Even dementiava, her serve is horrible, but shes got good groundstrokes.
She obviously has the talent. Wimbledon is for power hitters, so it's bound to be harder for her. Roland Garros, being on clay, requires a lot of skill and stamina (and hence is the most interesting to watch) - quite the opposite of Wimbledon. So I reckon Sania Mirza's more likely to do well at the French Open or perhaps on hard court tournaments. Performance at Wimbledon is possibly not the best judge for her talent, but that remains to be seen.amolbhatia100 said:As for sania, shes played the world no.5 twice now.. once she beat her, and this time at wimbledon, she really should have but her serve and inexperience let her down. And thats on two different surfaces.
I fail to see the connection between getting media attention and performance on the court. There's loads to work on, but if she doesn't make it to the top 20, it's probably her fault.amolbhatia100 said:Shes the countries only real tennis star now that the bhupati/paes partnership is over.. and with the amount of media attention and hype shes getting im pretty confident of her breaking the top 20 in a couple of years. And then after that the ranking doesnt matter.. she just has to give her all in the grandslams.. bright future but still things to work on.
Yes, but power generation to that extent can be worked on if the fundamentals are in place.amolbhatia100 said:But in general if you dont have the power.. and i dont mean serena williams power, but the ability to hit the bg deep shots, theres no chance.
I actually find the french open the most boring.. long long endless rallies, and the top players rarely get far. I wouldnt give a feck about tennis if it was all about corias and nadals running all day from side to side knocking it back and forth. Wimbledons for me is just right.Ern said:She obviously has the talent. Wimbledon is for power hitters, so it's bound to be harder for her. Roland Garros, being on clay, requires a lot of skill and stamina (and hence is the most interesting to watch) - quite the opposite of Wimbledon. So I reckon Sania Mirza's more likely to do well at the French Open or perhaps on hard court tournaments. Performance at Wimbledon is possibly not the best judge for her talent, but that remains to be seen.
I fail to see the connection between getting media attention and performance on the court. There's loads to work on, but if she doesn't make it to the top 20, it's probably her fault.
Ern said:Order of play for tomorrow:
Centre Court 1.00 pm Start
1 Gentlemen's Singles
Lleyton Hewitt (AUS)[3]
vs Feliciano Lopez (ESP)[26]
2 Gentlemen's Singles
Sebastien Grosjean (FRA)[9]
vs Andy Roddick (USA)[2]
Court 1 1.00 pm Start
1 Gentlemen's Singles
Roger Federer (SUI)[1]
vs Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)[21]
2 Gentlemen's Singles
Thomas Johansson (SWE)[12]
vs David Nalbandian (ARG)[18]
Court 2 12.00 noon Start
1 Ladies' Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)/
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)
vs Lisa McShea (AUS)/
Abigail Spears (USA)
T/F 6-5
2 Ladies' Doubles
Vera Douchevina (RUS)/
Shahar Peer (ISR)
vs Anna-Lena Groenefeld (GER)[8]/
Martina Navratilova (USA)[8]
3 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Mark Knowles (BAH)[8]/
Venus Williams (USA)[8]
vs Olivier Rochus (BEL)[12]/
Kim Clijsters (BEL)[12]
4 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Julian Knowle (AUT)[13]/
Anna-Lena Groenefeld (GER)[13]
vs Jonas Bjorkman (SWE)[3]/
Lisa Raymond (USA)[3]
Court 3 12.00 noon Start
1 Ladies' 35 & Over Doubles
Tracy Austin (USA)/
Jana Novotna (CZE)
vs Carling Bassett-Seguso (CAN)/
Mima Jausovec (YUG)
2 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Mahesh Bhupathi (IND)/
Mary Pierce (FRA)
vs Martin Garcia (ARG)/
Mara Santangelo (ITA)
T/F 1-0
3 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Ellis Ferreira (RSA)/
Paul Haarhuis (NED)
vs Neil Broad (GBR)/
Paul Hand (GBR)
4 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Cedric Pioline (FRA)/
Robert Seguso (USA)
vs Jeremy Bates (GBR)/
Chris Wilkinson (GBR)
Court 4 12.00 noon Start
1 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Sergio Casal (ESP)/
Slobodan Zivojinovic (YUG)
vs Gary Wayne Donnelly (USA)/
Rick Leach (USA)
2 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Jennifer-Lee Heinser (USA)[8]/
Elizabeth Plotkin (USA)[8]
vs Julia Bone (GBR)/
Samantha Murray (GBR)
T/F 5-3
3 Ladies' 35 & Over Doubles
Gretchen Magers (USA)/
Hana Mandlikova (AUS)
vs Katrina Adams (USA)/
Rosalyn Nideffer (USA)
4 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS)/
Evgeniya Rodina (RUS)
vs Bibiane Schoofs (NED)[3]/
Caroline Wozniacki (DEN)[3]
Court 5 12.00 noon Start
1 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Jacob Hlasek (SUI)/
Donald Johnson (USA)
vs Pat Galbraith (USA)/
Scott Melville (USA)
2 Ladies' 35 & Over Doubles
Lori McNeil (USA)/
Liz Smylie (AUS)
vs Nicole Arendt (USA)/
Wendy Turnbull (AUS)
3 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
T-J Middleton (USA)/
David Wheaton (USA)
vs Scott Davis (USA)/
David Pate (USA)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Robin Roshardt (SUI)/
Alexander Sadecky (SUI)
vs Myles A Blake (GBR)/
Todd Ley (AUS)
Court 6 11.00 am Start
1 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)
vs Alisa Kleybanova (RUS)
2 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Jarmila Gajdosova (SVK)[7]
vs Ekaterina Makarova (RUS)[12]
3 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Ekaterina Kosminskaya (RUS)/
Alla Kudryavtseva (RUS)
vs Agnieszka Radwanska (POL)/
Ueszula Radwanska (POL)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Luis-Henrique Grangeiro (BRA)[9]/
Andre Miele (BRA)[9]
vs Robin Haase (NED)/
Igor Sijsling (NED)
Court 7 11.00 am Start
1 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Thiemo De Bakker (NED)[17]
vs Jesse Levine (USA)
2 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Tim Smyczek (USA)
vs Niels Desein (BEL)[6]
3 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Raony Carvalho (BRA)/
Kei Nishikori (JPN)
vs Elbert Sie (INA)/
Shuhei Uzawa (JPN)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Andrea Arnaboldi (ITA)[4]/
Niels Desein (BEL)[4]
vs Jeremy Chardy (FRA)/
David Navarrete (VEN)
Court 8 11.00 am Start
1 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN)[6]
vs Nikola Frankova (CZE)
2 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Samuel Querrey (USA)[10]
vs Marin Cilic (CRO)[5]
3 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Maria-Fernanda Alvarez (BOL)/
Ana-Clara Duarte (BRA)
vs Mihaela Buzarnescu (ROM)/
Madalina Gojnea (ROM)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Piero Luisi (VEN)[8]/
Ryan Sweeting (BAH)[8]
vs Philip Bester (CAN)/
Peter Polansky (CAN)
T/F 7-5 0-2
5 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Yvette Hyndman (USA)/
Jennifer Stevens (USA)
vs Yung-Jan Chan (TPE)[6]/
Nikola Frankova (CZE)[6]
Court 11 11.00 am Start
1 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Timothy Neilly (USA)[15]
vs Abdullah Magdas (KUW)
2 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Marina Erakovic (NZL)[11]
vs Tamira Paszek (AUT)
3 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Abdullah Magdas (KUW)/
Vivek Shokeen (IND)
vs Christoph Hodl (AUT)/
Jochen Schottler (GER)
4 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Ayumi Morita (JPN)/
Erika Sema (JPN)
vs Marina Erakovic (NZL)[2]/
Monica Niculescu (ROM)[2]
5 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Viktoria Azarenka (BLR)[1]/
Agnes Szavay (HUN)[1]
vs Corinna Dentoni (ITA)/
Anastasia Revzina (RUS)
Court 13 12.00 noon Start
1 Gentlemen's Doubles
Leander Paes (IND)[5]/
Nenad Zimonjic (SCG)[5]
vs Wayne Black (ZIM)[4]/
Kevin Ullyett (ZIM)[4]
2 Ladies' 35 & Over Doubles
Ilana Kloss (RSA)/
Katerina Maleeva (BUL)
vs Jo Durie (GBR)/
Nathalie Tauziat (FRA)
3 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Todd Woodbridge (AUS)[6]/
Samantha Stosur (AUS)[6]
vs Nenad Zimonjic (SCG)[10]/
Katarina Srebotnik (SLO)[10]
4 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Peter Aldrich (RSA)/
Danie Visser (RSA)
vs Joakim Nystrom (SWE)/
Mikael Pernfors (SWE)
Court 14 11.00 am Start
1 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Jeremy Chardy (FRA)
vs Myles A Blake (GBR)
2 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Viktoria Azarenka (BLR)[1]
vs Anna Tatishvili (GEO)
3 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Florencia Molinero (ARG)/
Irena Pavlovic (FRA)
vs Jade Curtis (GBR)/
Sabine Lisicki (GER)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Sun-Yong Jr. Kim (KOR)[3]/
Aljoscha Thron (GER)[3]
vs Kellen Damico (USA)/
Tim Smyczek (USA)
T/F 6-4 2-2
5 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Claire Peterzan (GBR)/
Laura Peterzan (GBR)
vs Katerina Kramperova (CZE)/
Agnes Szatmari (ROM)
Court 15 11.00 am Start
1 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Dusan Lojda (CZE)
vs Antal Van Der Duim (NED)
2 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Jessica Kirkland (USA)[3]
vs Katerina Kramperova (CZE)
3 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Eugenia Grebeniuk (RUS)/
Yaroslava Shvedova (RUS)
vs Ellen Barry (NZL)/
Maya Gaverova (RUS)
4 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)[7]/
Anna Tatishvili (GEO)[7]
vs Melanie Gloria (CAN)/
Valerie Tetreault (CAN)
T/F 2-1
5 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Bryan Koniecko (USA)/
Martin Sayer (HKG)
vs Thiemo De Bakker (NED)[6]/
Antal Van Der Duim (NED)[6]
Court 17 11.00 am Start
1 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Yung-Jan Chan (TPE)[9]
vs Dominika Cibulkova (SVK)[5]
2 Girls' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Alexa N Glatch (USA)[13]
vs Agnes Szavay (HUN)[2]
3 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Aly El Sherbini (EGY)/
Anas Fattar (MAR)
vs Christopher Llewellyn (GBR)/
Jurgens Strydom (NAM)
4 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Samuel Groth (AUS)/
Andrew Kennaugh (GBR)
vs Andreas Haider-Maurer (AUT)[5]/
Dusan Lojda (CZE)[5]
5 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Alexa N Glatch (USA)[4]/
Vania King (USA)[4]
vs Olga Govortsova (BLR)/
Alisa Kleybanova (RUS)
T/F 4-6 7-5 3-1
Court 18 12.00 noon Start
1 Ladies' Doubles
Bryanne Stewart (AUS)[11]/
Samantha Stosur (AUS)[11]
vs Nadia Petrova (RUS)[4]/
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)[4]
2 Gentlemen's Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Rainer Schuettler (GER)/
Alexander Waske (GER)
vs Cyril Suk (CZE)[11]/
Pavel Vizner (CZE)[11]
T/F 6-4 6-4 4-3
3 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Mariano Hood (ARG)/
Gisela Dulko (ARG)
vs Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)[14]/
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS)[14]
T/F 3-2
4 Gentlemen's 35 RR Doubles
Javier Frana (ARG)/
Leonardo Lavalle (MEX)
vs Anders Jarryd (SWE)/
Henri Leconte (FRA)
Court 19 11.00 am Start
1 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Piero Luisi (VEN)
vs Donald Young (USA)[2]
2 Boys' Singles - 3rd Rnd.
Leonardo Mayer (ARG)[3]
vs Robin Haase (NED)[14]
3 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Natasha Khan (GBR)/
Georgie Stoop (GBR)
vs Olivia Lukaszewicz (AUS)/
Shayna McDowell (AUS)
4 Girls' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Ellah Nze (USA)/
Anastasia Pivovarova (RUS)
vs Jarmila Gajdosova (SVK)/
Aude Vermoezen (BEL)
5 Boys' Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Emiliano Massa (ARG)[7]/
Leonardo Mayer (ARG)[7]
vs Dylan Arnould (USA)/
Jamie Hunt (USA)
TBA
5.00 pm
1 Ladies' Doubles
Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)[7]/
Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[7]
vs Cara Black (ZIM)[2]/
Liezel Huber (RSA)[2]
5.00 pm
2 Mixed Doubles - 3rd Rnd.
Travis Parrott (USA)/
Amy Frazier (USA)
vs Mike Bryan (USA)[5]/
Martina Navratilova (USA)[5]
And you actually quoted all of that in a post.Slabber said:Is this really necessary?
Davo said:Everyone posting in here whilst the Lions and cricket is on should be ashamed of themselves....
Think about what you've been doing and learn from it....
Slabber said:Is this really necessary?