Of course he can beat him but if you look at it in the long term, right now Murray isn't close to Nadal nor Federer.
In terms of ability no, but psychological advantage, more so over Federer, yes.
Of course he can beat him but if you look at it in the long term, right now Murray isn't close to Nadal nor Federer.
Yes, Murray was clearly off his game in the US open final but apart from that he has fairly comfortably beaten Federer every time he has palyed him for the last three years.
It is not "in some matches" - Murray has beaten Federer six times out of seven over the last three years. Some of these were huge games; Master semifinals etc. Grand slam finals are not the only big games.
Since Wimbledon last year Murray has performed better than any other player in the world, including Nadal and Federer.
Djokovic is also right up there with the best in the world. He won the Aussie open last year beating Hewitt, Blake and Federer on his way to the final without dropping a set.
Murray was rightfully the bookies favourite to win the Aussie Open this year and was very unlucky to hit Verdasco in the form of his life in the last 16. Remeber that Verdasco only just beat Murray, taking five sets to do so. The same player was then only just beaten by Nadal, again in five sets. In both of these games the players were only seperated by a single point in the overall match stats.
For some (maybe obvious) reasons the public have not too Murray that much and seem not to rate him much as a player. In actuality he is right up there with the best in the world. He is behind Nadal on clay but probably ahead of him on the hard courts. He is clearly better than Federer on hard and indoor courts -they have not yet on clay so it is hard to make a judgement about that.
Last year they only won 6 of the big tournaments between them.
Destroyed in their last three meetings on three different surfaces in Grand Slam finals... Domination.
Yes, Murray was clearly off his game in the US open final but apart from that he has fairly comfortably beaten Federer every time he has palyed him for the last three years.
It is not "in some matches" - Murray has beaten Federer six times out of seven over the last three years. Some of these were huge games; Master semifinals etc. Grand slam finals are not the only big games.
Since Wimbledon last year Murray has performed better than any other player in the world, including Nadal and Federer.
Djokovic is also right up there with the best in the world. He won the Aussie open last year beating Hewitt, Blake and Federer on his way to the final without dropping a set.
Murray was rightfully the bookies favourite to win the Aussie Open this year and was very unlucky to hit Verdasco in the form of his life in the last 16. Remeber that Verdasco only just beat Murray, taking five sets to do so. The same player was then only just beaten by Nadal, again in five sets. In both of these games the players were only seperated by a single point in the overall match stats.
For some (maybe obvious) reasons the public have not too Murray that much and seem not to rate him much as a player. In actuality he is right up there with the best in the world. He is behind Nadal on clay but probably ahead of him on the hard courts. He is clearly better than Federer on hard and indoor courts -they have not yet on clay so it is hard to make a judgement about that.
Yes, Murray was clearly off his game in the US open final but apart from that he has fairly comfortably beaten Federer every time he has palyed him for the last three years.
It is not "in some matches" - Murray has beaten Federer six times out of seven over the last three years. Some of these were huge games; Master semifinals etc. Grand slam finals are not the only big games.
Since Wimbledon last year Murray has performed better than any other player in the world, including Nadal and Federer.
Djokovic is also right up there with the best in the world. He won the Aussie open last year beating Hewitt, Blake and Federer on his way to the final without dropping a set.
Murray was rightfully the bookies favourite to win the Aussie Open this year and was very unlucky to hit Verdasco in the form of his life in the last 16. Remeber that Verdasco only just beat Murray, taking five sets to do so. The same player was then only just beaten by Nadal, again in five sets. In both of these games the players were only seperated by a single point in the overall match stats.
For some (maybe obvious) reasons the public have not too Murray that much and seem not to rate him much as a player. In actuality he is right up there with the best in the world. He is behind Nadal on clay but probably ahead of him on the hard courts. He is clearly better than Federer on hard and indoor courts -they have not yet on clay so it is hard to make a judgement about that.
I think it's only in the mind that Federer loses it against Nadal... He seems to "give up" a little too early...
Talentwise, I still believe that Federer is better. Federer will win another four or more Slams, I say... I'd say starting with this year's French Open...
I think it's only in the mind that Federer loses it against Nadal... He seems to "give up" a little too early...
Talentwise, I still believe that Federer is better. Federer will win another four or more Slams, I say... I'd say starting with this year's French Open...
I think it's only in the mind that Federer loses it against Nadal... He seems to "give up" a little too early...
Talentwise, I still believe that Federer is better. Federer will win another four or more Slams, I say... I'd say starting with this year's French Open...
What chance had Nadal would've stood in the wimbledon had he played in the late mid 80's or early 90's? Federer, broke in to the scene when Tennis as a whole was shite with the likes of Kuerten, Moya, Enquist and others as number ones and Henmann touted as a potential Wimbledon champion and he made the most of the draw. The only strong rival so far in his career was Nadal yet he has always been his bunny.
If some one gets twatted by Murray once in a while, he must be really in shite form.
Vinay was actually right. Infact, predicted the French open too. Wow.
Lotto numbers please.
Reading back, the Murray hate was such cringeworthy stuff, I love it.
When he wins one I hope he invades your news stations for months.
If Nadals body is still fecked then Federer is the big favourite for both Roland Garros and Wimbledon this year as well.
Perhaps this is the year where Federer wins them all?
Reading back, the Murray hate was such cringeworthy stuff, I love it.
When he wins one I hope he invades your news stations for months.
He'll win one or two maybe that's about it. He's a glorified version of someone like Hewitt, not a champion like Federer or Nadal.
So you don't enjoy supporting United?Ay but where's the fun in rooting for the best? It's like cheering for Schumie in racing, to me, there's no benefit in cheering for the team or individual that always wins.
I decided to support Murray once the talented Tim Henman (HA) retired, I could very easily have jumped in team Rafa or team Roger but why?
He can be the one to interrupt the dominance, along with a host of other players.
So you don't enjoy supporting United?
anyway tennis is an individual sport so it's different from team sports when it comes to support. I want Federer to win because I love watching him play. He's a genius, once in a lifetime player, something that Murray will never be.
So you don't enjoy supporting United?
anyway tennis is an individual sport so it's different from team sports when it comes to support. I want Federer to win because I love watching him play. He's a genius, once in a lifetime player, something that Murray will never be.
Shame Nadals never been fully fit since Wimbledon 2008, Still think a fully fit Nadal has Federers Number, its a given he owns everyone on clay but i thought his victory over Federer at Wimbledon was a sign of things to come, he took Federers number 1 ranking as well as his title that day, unfortunatly for him since then his knee has become far to problamatic and hes not even close to the level he was at 18 months ago where he was clearly the best player in the world and deservedly ranked number 1.
Has to be serious question marks if he'll ever truly overcome this knee problem sadly.
If Nadals body is still fecked then Federer is the big favourite for both Roland Garros and Wimbledon this year as well.
Perhaps this is the year where Federer wins them all?
Shame that Federer lost that Roland Garros (2008) so badly (with a 6-0 in the final set) to Nadal after a mononucleosis.
Shame that Federer still carried that sequels of that "humiliation" in his spirit through Wimbledon 2008 and lost a gruelling 5 setter and also carried the humiliation to the Australian of 2009...
No, I'm not one who thinks that Nadal was clearly #1. That has only been Roger's place... I think Nadal got a nice combination of events to help him through #1. And I think it is things falling a little into place with his "knee problems"...
But, yes, I do so wish to see a really good Federer - Nadal game some time soon with both at their best. It would be a truly wonderful game, I think!
Btw, Nadal's knee problem that he suffered in AO is not the same tendinitis thing as I read a week ago.. so hopefully he'll be back.
Btw, Nadal's knee problem that he suffered in AO is not the same tendinitis thing as I read a week ago.. so hopefully he'll be back.
Exactly.This. People -Nadal's fans, Anti-Federer- don't recall that Federer was unfit in 2008, yet he reached all the finals that year. When Nadal loses, he's unfit, when Federer loses ,he's not good enough for Nadal!!?? ..yeah right.
This question has been answered today. Congrats to Roger for finally winning No.18!!! Amazing! Unbelievable even.
I never thought it would be possible at this stage of his career, and to beat Nadal, of all people, that takes some doing considering the psychological advantage Nadal has over Roger especially at the Australian Open (think back to that brutal 2009 AO final).
In Federer's mind, the Nadal demon has well and truly been exorcised!
Is this his first grand slam since 2009?
He won two slams in 2009 after this thread was created. Then won the Australian Open in 2010, Wimbledon in 2012 and now the Australian Open in 2017.Is this his first grand slam since 2009?