And we'll still finish comfortably ahead of you, as we will next season. The Manc muppets always say we'll fall out of the top 4 and we never do, welcome to the club.
Will Arsenal win Quadruple?
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You forgot to mention the fact that you also lost to us and Barcelona since Xmas.
You've made about 47383047 predictions on here this season and I think one of them has come off, do you really think you should be making comments like this?!
I was pretty accurate on Spurs - no WHL stadium, no Olympic stadium, humiliating exit from CL, no top 4 finish. Only Harry to go down to compete the nap hand.
Honestly mate you're a fking joke these days
If you could be bothered to check it I have been correct about Wenger for the last five years.
Every abysmal defensive decision, every transfer disaster re the defence every goalkeeping decision since that burk Almunia arrived 6/7 years ago, every time we bottled it, which I've predicted to the fking letter every single time. I've not been wrong about him or his shocking mismanagement of our club for the last 5 years, all stemming from his misplaced arrrogance, his 'defensive brain missfunction', to his staggering inability to make small but crucial and probably title winning tweaks / changes.
You, however, Pete are actually hysterically never right about Arsenal, not that Ive seen n the last couple of years. You're sailing around with some crazy notion, that at some point in neverland, it will all come good. I can only summise you know littel about this game as Wenger is showing you daily why and how it can never go right with him at the helm.
I don't know what else you and the rest of the 'Wenger knows' people are seeing that tells you this is working and will at some mystical point bore fruit. Tell us.
All I hear from you is that it's some bizarre 'plan'. Jesus you're sounding like the lot over at Rawk when they were ranting on, loony like, about Rafa's multitiered 'plans'
He listens to nobody, never accepts any blame and is like a fking spoilt child when the whole world and aliens on the moon can see what we need (apart from some "15 year plan" loonies
like you) It's now become funny this, unfortunately for us that is, cause when given the "so who would you look to replace him with?" its no longer a problem. I used to think only a Hiddink, Ancellotti star would do but actually when I look at us now it doe'snt even need that.
We just need a man who can above all else install balls into the side as well of course some basic simple defensive ability.
Everything else is there, the talent, the attacking creativity, the youth
(brilliantly nurtured and brought throiugh by Wenger I might add)
However a decent, not even world class goalkeeper and two hard 'get there first ' central defenders would do - but he's never gonna get that to happen is he, he wants defenders that can do a hundred 'keepieuppies' whilst holding one finger up their bums.
For me and now many many other Gooners is the one requirement / equation
No Wenger = loads of fking bottle + a hard defence, allied to the attacking talents we already have = proper title challenges and great football and hopefully something to show for it
You're always on about 'bottle' - you're the one who needs show some balls and get behind your team instead of blubbing away like a big girl's blouse.
Unless he makes changes to the way he approaches a game, we will find ourselves facing the same predicament year on year Pete. Don't blame injuries (every side gets injuries) or refereeing decisions (every side get their fair share that goes against them), the reality is we can't defend for shit and it will let us down next year and the year after unless Wenger is prepared to take a keener emphasis on defending, even if it's at a detriment to our attacking game.
you could'nt get it more wrong - againI am behind the team always have been always will be
I'm not however behind the manager, who lacks the biggest factor in becoming a winner at this level - bottle
You show how little about this game you know Pete or any other come to that.
You're listing of 'bottle' somewhere down the the list of absolute requirements at all top level sport says everything. You keep going on about how 'unimportant' it is. The lack of 'belief' and confidence in oneself when there is no bottle means you can't win nomatter what huge quality you have.
You dont understand this and never have
I even saw some quotes from Wenger himself the other day about how that Birmingham game turned the players mentalities on their heads. That's in stark conrast even to you and your thoughts on how that game meant "nothing"
For you to have this opinion about the merits or otherwise of having bottle
really does make you a bit odd. Anybody who has ever gone into a sport competitively on the playing side knows how fundamental it is and anybody saying otherwise has obviously never done that or has any real understanding of the mentallity to win any game even at Hackney marshes level let alone the PL
Fkme even if you play Monopoly or tiddlywinks you have to take risks in order to pressurise your opponent into hopefully making mistakes just like any competitive game, you have to be a bit brave - not fold like a pack of fking cards at the first sign of things going against you
It's the very fulcrum of 'competitiveness' in all human conflict be it in a gaming sense or even real every day life
You're fking wierd mate
It's pretty clear that Arsenal have a tendency to collectively shit themselves when the chips are down. It sounds clichéd, but I think the dressing room is probably missing a couple of leaders. I'm not even sure it's down to a lack of experience, but more the personalities of the players in the squad. Maybe Wilshire will grow into the leader role, he seems a bit less wet than the others.
What the feck are you suppose to do when even your own captain doesn't want to be there....
It's just today's headline rationalisation. You don't win things largely because you're not good enough all the rest is mostly bullshit.
So who do the resident Arses think will play centre-half next season? I presume (if he's recovered) it's Vermaelen plus one from the rest? I'd guess you lot would go for Djourou on what I've read on here this season? Or will he dump one of them (Squillaci, I'd assume) and bring in one more?
What's uncanny about Arsenal under Wenger, is that when they lose an important game, they do not seem to get over it quickly enough. They go on a "downer" for several games rather than bouncing straight back.
From the outside looking in, it sticks out like a prolapse that they are short
of a no-nonesence CB , and a few toughened hearts and minds.
From the outside looking in, it sticks out like a prolapse that they are short
of a no-nonesence CB , and a few toughened hearts and minds.
I love it how your responses about your team's problems are to always talk about other teams. IE: Fergie will go before Wenger... What's that got to do with it? Man up. We're not talking about United here.
So Arsenal aren't good enough? That seems to directly contradict the garabge you've been spouting here all season.
Vermaelen & Cahill
We also say you'll never win anything and you never do so I guess we're half right.
And you always say you'll win the league and you never do.
We need two hard case central defenders
Djourou does not cut it at this leve.l He had a couple of good games against lower opposition and looked good but as soon as it gets tight he bottles it
Squillacci is too slow for this league
I think Koscielni can do something in a season or two when he's fully up to speed and can concentrate and not dive in at random
Vermaelen looked good, although again, not as good as some say
We really need a fullbloodied Vidic 'get your face on the ball first' stopper and then Verm with him and another stopper for cover - Djourou and Squillacci i I'd get rid
Vermaelen, two new centre backs and Koscielni.
One new, older, experienced keeper and a proper hard case in midfield as Song is about as quick as next doors tortoise
But it wont happen - Wenger wont admit he's already got wrong what s already there so he wont change it.
He'll hope Vermaelen gets and stays fit. Large it that Djourou really is a good player waiting to become great. Both of them will get injured and he'll keep Squillacci and Koscielny and they 'll fk their way up to another season
Fabianski will get fit and be fighting with Seze. Almunia will stay as one of them gets injured and end up in goal for some big final that we will talk about trophies "already on mantlepieces" and then bottle it and lose - probably to Wigan with a guarateed clanger from the said genius in goal.
That will be in Feb next year where we will be 8 points clear but getting everything ready for the annual bottle festival which Man Utd and Chelsea will rapturously clean up after - once again.
Wenger will continue to talk about 'the team spirit' and 'the youth'
Pete will still be saying we're now in the 7th year of 'the plan' and I will be answering some other thread with this self same post !
Congratulations to Arsenal on winning forth place......well done the ten year plan is on track.
they will go for Cahill, who will be a very good buy for them.
Pete drowning....and clutching at straws.
when a team that was almost cert to at least be second a month or so ago...finally finishes 4th, there is no one to blame except the manager.
when a team that was almost cert to at least be second a month or so ago...finally finishes 4th, there is no one to blame except the manager.
And Samba.
If we sign Cahill and Samba we'll finish 6th next season, and we'd deserve to.
Cahill's better than all of your centre-halves other than possibly Vermaelen and you finished fourth this season (without Vermaelen).
If you had Samba next to Vermaelen i think you'd actually do a fair bit better than 6th. I don't see the hype with Cahill, seems inconsistent although i agree he's better than all but two of your centre backs (Verm and Djourou).
He just isn't though. Whenever I watch him, he's at the heart of one of the leakiest defences in the league, and he's at fault for a lot of them. He's not a top 4 standard player. You can claim that Djourou and Koscielny are not in the same league as other top defenders in the league, and you'd have a point, but they're better than Gary Cahill.
Arsenal play a high defensive line. Samba is a big slow bloke. He'd be horrific for us. You can be a good centre-back and not suit a team. Although I don't actually think Samba is that good at all.
Good point hadn't thought about that, then again Vidic is about as quick as Samba and he does alright.
Koscielny could turn it around next season, we've seen before players who need some time to bed in. Squillaci i have no idea why you signed him.
Koscielny could turn it around next season, we've seen before players who need some time to bed in. Squillaci i have no idea why you signed him.
Arsenal 2010/11 - The Verdict:
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Well I'm not saying he's top class, I just think at this moment in time he's a better option than the three I mentioned. Admittedly I don't watch them as often as you do but when I do I see Djourou as being a decent player but nothing special, Koscielny has potential but he can be gotten at and Squillaci's poor, even as a fourth choice, but I can see why you'd have gone for him with his experience.
Steve Bruce was a big slow bloke but he knew where to be and what to do in most situations. I don't actually think Samba is that slow and he is a very physical player, which Arsenal need back there.
Wholeheartedly agree with that. People just like to bandy about defenders who perform with a modicum of ability in awful sides, and hence stand out like a sore thumb. We don't need anymore average defenders, we're littered with enough of them at present.
Cahill is a very good player, think he would do well at Arsenal, him and Djourou would be a good partnership. (Don't see it with Vermaelen.)
They were so so close to winning the league.
4th place was really close if you consider that 20 clubs play in the league.
4th place was really close if you consider that 20 clubs play in the league.
TopPositives for Arsenal - they may have no backbone, but they have the spine of a great team:
Vermaelen - excellent player
Wilshere - superb, feisty as feck and an obvious winner
Ramsay - classy
Van Persie - looks like a straight MikeUpNorth; scores every time he plays
That cocky goalie might turn out to be a player too