Has it been that bad? We had a fantastic talent through o fault of the club failed here in Greenwood. We have Garnacho, Pellestri, Mainoo,Amad and Hannibal in or around the squad. If one or two become regular players I would deem that successful
As a father this made me chuckleToo much screen time
Hello all,
Man United used to stand for youth products, the class of 1992 and so on.
The impending Cucurella deal disavows Alvaro Fernandez, our much taunted academy left back. We have spent enormous money on a Chelsea academy product. The broader picture is we start the season with just one academy product guaranteed a starting place in Rashford.
The unfortunate events around Mason Greenwood should not make us oblivious to the reality that our academy products have become terrible down the years. Mejbri et al simply do not have what it takes to cut it at the club.
Why is it so that Man United's academy has fallen so far behind others around Europe? Whilst we all focus on transfers, has our main shortcoming not been being able to produce class homegrown products for years?
I just think fans place them higher than they actually are, vast majority aren't good enough to begin with.
Class of 92 was a freak event, not the norm.
Mainoo in my opinion will go the same way as , whereas loads here seem to think he can play alongside Casemiro based on absolutely nothing.
While I agree that it's too early to claim with confidence that Mainoo will be a world beater, to play as much as he has, show the range of skills he has and have the attitude he has at his age in a time of crisis at one of the works biggest clubs, you wouldn't really expect him to be able to do any more. Can you imagine how much worse this season would have been without him?I just think fans place them higher than they actually are, vast majority aren't good enough to begin with.
Class of 92 was a freak event, not the norm.
Mainoo in my opinion will go the same way as many, whereas loads here seem to think he can play alongside Casemiro based on absolutely nothing.
What a terrible take this is
Wrong.at the time nobody knew.
Wrong.
Agreed, it's a weird one. I'd say given the players we bring through (watching Garner playing for everton right now actually) we've got an excellent record.I'm failing to see how anyone can call an academy that has produced M.G, Garnacho and Mainoo with in the last 5 years alone as "bad"....
Everyone is open to criticism. That's the nature of the job. What was always apparent though is that Mainoo is a quality talent. However, it was obviously far easier for you to play the percentages and write him off. Just tells me that you never watched him in the academy.Aye ok,
Same people will be the ones slating him when he has a bad game.
Great call mentioning Garner. I feel he has been excellent at Everton. Even in Dyche ball.Agreed, it's a weird one. I'd say given the players we bring through (watching Garner playing for everton right now actually) we've got an excellent record.
Definitely. There are so many that pass through that people forget about but that turn out decent, even if not world beaters.Great call mentioning Garner. I feel he has been excellent at Everton. Even in Dyche ball.
Mengi at Luton is a decent shout. As is Chong.
Gomes, Elanga and Greenwood are also all playing top flight football, as is Henderson, Pereira and a fair few other older ones. I went through a full list the other day in the reserve / youth forum but we've produced a very good standard. As these players excel at other clubs we'll get better fees for them like City and Chelsea do.Great call mentioning Garner. I feel he has been excellent at Everton. Even in Dyche ball.
Mengi at Luton is a decent shout. As is Chong.
Everyone is open to criticism. That's the nature of the job. What was always apparent though is that Mainoo is a quality talent. However, it was obviously far easier for you to play the percentages and write him off. Just tells me that you never watched him in the academy.
Respect to you.You're right I never did, I actually havn't watched a youth game since the cup final in 22 when Garnacho got the double.
I am also mature enough to eat humble pie, which many aren't when it goes the other way.
Palmer literally plays in an even more disjointed team than ours (and that’s saying something). And he’s their best player.City have some developed some very technical youth players, like Foden, Palmer, Lewis and Bobb. They look good in that system, in that highly cultivated environment, but I don't think any of them could replicate what Mainoo and Garnacho are doing.
Is it since 1937 we have had a youth player in the first team every match since? Yes there are some better than others over the years, but if we can just get one a season to be an outstanding player playing for us, it will be worth it.
I cant wait to see Lacey in the first team. I have only seen youtube highlights, but that was the same with Mainoo.
Of course I agree. was being hopeful and greedy.And even that is optimistic. One every 2-3 years would still be great.
We have been getting garbage fees in recent years simply because we have been rubbish at talent sales in general in the Glazer era.Gomes, Elanga and Greenwood are also all playing top flight football, as is Henderson, Pereira and a fair few other older ones. I went through a full list the other day in the reserve / youth forum but we've produced a very good standard. As these players excel at other clubs we'll get better fees for them like City and Chelsea do.
Great call mentioning Garner. I feel he has been excellent at Everton. Even in Dyche ball.
Mengi at Luton is a decent shout. As is Chong.
Hello all,
Man United used to stand for youth products, the class of 1992 and so on.
The impending Cucurella deal disavows Alvaro Fernandez, our much taunted academy left back. We have spent enormous money on a Chelsea academy product. The broader picture is we start the season with just one academy product guaranteed a starting place in Rashford.
The unfortunate events around Mason Greenwood should not make us oblivious to the reality that our academy products have become terrible down the years. Mejbri et al simply do not have what it takes to cut it at the club.
Why is it so that Man United's academy has fallen so far behind others around Europe? Whilst we all focus on transfers, has our main shortcoming not been being able to produce class homegrown products for years?
1) Declining relative quality of our youth set up and facilities.
2) Lack of quality coming through the door in the first place. Lots more good / better options nowadays.
Meh. None of those have showed anything. Over the last 5 years you had the likes of Tuanzebe, Mengi, Mensah, Chong, Garner, Gomes, Iqbal, Elanga, Shoretire etc. all 'on the cusp'. Just because the fanbase overhypes every average dud from the academy doesn't mean those players will come good.
I was worried injuries were set to ruin his career like Axel Tuanzebe. Its great to see him get over them. He has always seemed to have the talent for EPL level ball.A lad at my work is Luton he raves about him
