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Why didn't we sign a right-winger?
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Diablo Traore is a right winger. 
When you realise this thread is 2 years old. 
Woodward strikes again. The one position we need to strengthen but have done sweet nothing
Feck me...When you realise this thread is 2 years old.
Because we signed 2.
Good question.
I was going to say that Cavani might be an option, but I checked his stats and he hasn't played on the right since 13/14 (and that was the only season he really played there). So scratch that.
For some reason I had it in my head that he'd played there a decent amount over the years.
For some reason I had it in my head that he'd played there a decent amount over the years.
We finally sign a RW and we sign two of them in one day. Both 18. One who won’t join for another few months...
Two 18 year olds with 5 games between them hardly count, may as well have promoted Chong to the first team
Hopeful though scouts have done a good job and one of them turn out decent
Hopeful though scouts have done a good job and one of them turn out decent
Didn’t he play there the whole time Ibra was there?
MASON GREENWOOD anyone?
Not really considering neither of them are realistically for this year.
Did no one tell you folks? Telles is the new Gareth Bale.
Attacking LB to devastating, free scoring right sided forward.
If only life were that simple!
Attacking LB to devastating, free scoring right sided forward.
If only life were that simple!
Could have been 5 years old and would still be fittingWhen you realise this thread is 2 years old.
Only in the first year they were there together (13/14). In the following two seasons he played on the left. At least according to Transfermarkt.
Ok, you can Tellus.
I genuinely believed we would sign a starter RW but always felt no CB as prepared to wait for Upamecano
Could have got Bale but Woody thought he held all the aces with Sancho but couldn't have been more wrong
United play narrow front 3 of wide-forwards. We haven't had a right-winger in years.
Buying a 4th wide-forward was not necessarily the best move. For a while now, most pundits seemed to agree that bringin in a CF like Cavani was a better way to round out our options.
You can argue about whether that's the best tactical approach or not. But in the existing United context, right-wing is not the hole in our formation that many believe it to be.
Even if Sancho had signed, I reckon he would have played in the same areas of the pitch as Greenwood (ie. 15 yards inside of the wing). We'd have gained something in chance creation, but lost just as much in goal scoring. At best, it was swings and roundabouts.
The goals come from the front 3. The creativity comes from midfield. The width comes from the full-backs. That's what Ole has been building since he's been here.
Buying a 4th wide-forward was not necessarily the best move. For a while now, most pundits seemed to agree that bringin in a CF like Cavani was a better way to round out our options.
You can argue about whether that's the best tactical approach or not. But in the existing United context, right-wing is not the hole in our formation that many believe it to be.
Even if Sancho had signed, I reckon he would have played in the same areas of the pitch as Greenwood (ie. 15 yards inside of the wing). We'd have gained something in chance creation, but lost just as much in goal scoring. At best, it was swings and roundabouts.
The goals come from the front 3. The creativity comes from midfield. The width comes from the full-backs. That's what Ole has been building since he's been here.
Then we should've signed a right sided wide forward then?
Bale?
Even more than that, what we added in this window were goals from our rotation players. We now have cavani and VDB who will get us goals and eventually traore too. In addition we added a very attacking full back on the left to supplement AWB defensive qualities. We did well in this window. For me, next summer rather than now is the year to sign a central defender if we need one. We begged our managers to give youth a chance, well let's put that to the test with Tuanzebe and mengi. See how they perform. Upemacano or whoever we would spend 80m plus for are not that much better than what we have even with yesterday's performance. We just happen to be in a period where centre backs are limited.
We did. In fact we signed 2. And we already have one. The reason I felt we needed a winger wasn't because we lacked quality in our first six, but because an injury to them would force us to use james lingard or mata. In addition, rashford can be off form and Greenwood may have those periods as he is young. Cavani can also play there.
They begged us not to get him, Rodriguez or dembele, because it was "embarassing". For a team rebuilding we are big snobs.
Martial, Rashford and Greenwood are all very similar players. They're at their livliest about 35 yards from goal, dribbling with the ball at their feet, with the opposition defence in front of them.
Sancho is a bird of the same feather. He's brilliant, no doubt. But other than fresh legs off the bench, having 4 identikit forwards isn't the best squad building strategy for a well rounded attack.
I wouldn't personally have gone for Cavani myself. But a player with his centre-forward profile would have been my priority over another wide-forward type.
If it came down to it, I'd want Haaland or Kane over Sancho or Dembele. Cavani is an okay stop-gap. A right-winger wouldn't have been right this squad the way Ole is trying to build it.
Because there's too much work left.
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Agree about us being snobby regarding them two,however in regards to Dembele could do nothing about him not willing to add a year to his contract.
We've needed a RW since Ronaldo left
You mean the young ones we got today? We at least needed someone to go in to the first team if Mason gets injured or fails to produce the goods for too long (ideally we wanted someone to go in ahead of Greenwood). I'd be surprised if they're that level, so yeah, it's likely to be Mata, James and Lingard, which is the problem.
I doubt at Cavani's age we're gonna play him wide.
Only one of them looks remotely capable on the right though and he's very inexperienced and no one would be shocked if he badly lost form.
We're looking equally lost at sea with Martial out-of-form.
More importantly, we've been found out by the other teams in the league. Having two contrasting but potent plans of attack is better than having a single plan with superior backups.
But we've got Cavani and Ighalo who can play there.
No qualms with your second point specifically but I can't recall much of us using any tactic that didn't require a right sided forward. If the plan is for one and it works then great but that's very hypothetical, whereas being weak on the right for the tactic we usually go with is rather clear.
We did. For the U-23s.
Yeah that was exactly why I wanted us to sign one,that way we wouldn't be at risk of burning out Mason
Our fans have blasted the club constantly for not signing the sancho's before they join dortmund. We have this time. We signed two in fact, both of whom play on the right for relatively cheap prices. Yet the true nature of those fans come out because as much drivel as they talk about not wanting to have blockbuster signings anymore, they complain when that doesn't happen. Fergie had, maybe four or five windows in which he made those blockbuster signings. Cantona in 1992, Veron in 2001/2002, Rio in 2003 and Van Persie in 2012.
You're supposed to take your punts on youth whilst also having a reliable first team squad. If they then become good enough to play regularly and you no longer need one of the reliable older players, happy days, but you should not just assume they will straight away.
We don't need to sign Veron or Rio but we could've done with signing Valencia or Carrick.
This thread is 2 years old and could be valid any moment since 2015 when we sold AdM and Nani. We've bought Mkhi, Lukaku, Ibra, Snachez, James, and Cavani since then to cover the left and centre (where we had Martial and Rashford and now Greenwood) as options, but nothing for the obvious gap.
We've also needed a deep-lying playmaker since Carrick retired and Blind was rejected at that position, and especially last season when we had a Herrera-Pogba midfield working. We've bought Matic (kind-of, but not quite what we needed) and Fred and sold Herrera without replacement since then. Everything but a passer, so we pushed Pogba back after his best season came as an attacking 8. And we pushed him back to accomodate Lingard.
In this time, just off the top of my head, Ziyech, Sancho, Dembele, Sane, Douglas Costa, and Salah, and Kovacic, Jorginho, Thiago, and Frenkie de Jong have shifted clubs. Even Arsenal's Pepe could have been an option to rotate with Greenwood, better than Mata or Lingard or James at least.
It's beyond frustrating.
We've also needed a deep-lying playmaker since Carrick retired and Blind was rejected at that position, and especially last season when we had a Herrera-Pogba midfield working. We've bought Matic (kind-of, but not quite what we needed) and Fred and sold Herrera without replacement since then. Everything but a passer, so we pushed Pogba back after his best season came as an attacking 8. And we pushed him back to accomodate Lingard.
In this time, just off the top of my head, Ziyech, Sancho, Dembele, Sane, Douglas Costa, and Salah, and Kovacic, Jorginho, Thiago, and Frenkie de Jong have shifted clubs. Even Arsenal's Pepe could have been an option to rotate with Greenwood, better than Mata or Lingard or James at least.
It's beyond frustrating.
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We signed 2 right wingers. You mean why didn't we sign the only right-winger - Jadon Sancho - whom you wanted?
- There aren't really a lot of right wingers available. 90% wingers today are inverted. Left footers play on the right. Right-footers play on the left. About 10% of people are left-footed.
- Other wingers (Chiesa, Torres, ...) were either: unavailable because the club wanted too much, had already picked where they wanted to go, or wanted to stay in their home country.
- We needed to sell our excess players to raise the money Dortmund wanted. We couldn't do that; because senior management here are no longer prepared to let them go for a song
- We set our heart of Jadon. But it wasn't to be. The path of true love is often winding and sometimes treacherous.
- Not a lot to choose from, could not get #1. We signed some players we scouted.
- If we'd signed Sancho he'd be the only player we got this summer.
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