We should be in for the likes of Jorginho, Fekir etc. Nobody should tell you there aren't technically gifted players, capable of moving the ball around in the market. There are but our manager would rather prefer tall 6 foot lumps with presence instead. Watch these players join City and Liverpool whilst we stockpile more tall players and get outplayed by them next season.
Why aren't we being linked with any technically great players?
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We also need defenders. It's a bit disheartning that after two summer windows, we still look like we need major surgery.You would think attackers who can unlocked defenses would be a priority after seeing our tumescent attack this year. Douglas Costa would be ideal for this category but I've seen no links.
Pep is already looking to improve with the likes of Mahrez while we are linked with defenders.
I hope they give Mourinho all the money he needs as one last throw of the dice.
Costa would be excellent, very direct but Juve wouldn't sell and I don't think he's be keen on leaving either.
We are linked with Willian though.
Because these so called technical players are not 7ft tall.
We could use a top FB but all this talk of buying yet another CB (after buying one each of the past two summers) is ridiculous imo. A majority of Mourinho's focus should be how to add another 20-30 goals next year. If he doesn't then we will have ceded next season to City before a single ball has been kicked.
Because of too many reasons
- Man Utd have not pulled any trees in last 5 years. The club is no longer a sought after destination in terms of success. Even in our best of years, we were still next to the likes of Barcelona and Real, who are consistently in CL last stages.
- Our manager is not a sought after manager. We have managers like Pep in the same city who unfortunately has a better reputation. It doesn't really matter if he is a better manager or not.
- Given the top 2 conditions, we would need to pay over the top for any extra talented player to swerve his mind. Again not all players are swerved by money and even though we are rich, we still have a transfer budget. And again, the more a player costs, the more criticism he gets (even from fans).
- Weather and city as always. Many players see Spain as a much preferred destination than rainy England. Some players genuinely perform better under brighter conditions. Also London is the better choice than Manchester. So even if they were coming to England, many would prefer London. It was not a problem when we were top dogs. A problem if we are not.
- German talents see Bayern as the ultimate aim and all Bayern needs to do is make a call. They all come for peanuts.
- Negative media reputation does not help. We are always under scrutiny. So small problems in team appear many times larger because we are constantly in the media. Again, it did not matter when we were top dogs and had one of the best managers in the world, but starts to matter when we don't have those.
All this does not mean, it will get fixed if we fire Jose. I doubt if there is someone on the market who is that much sought after.
- Man Utd have not pulled any trees in last 5 years. The club is no longer a sought after destination in terms of success. Even in our best of years, we were still next to the likes of Barcelona and Real, who are consistently in CL last stages.
- Our manager is not a sought after manager. We have managers like Pep in the same city who unfortunately has a better reputation. It doesn't really matter if he is a better manager or not.
- Given the top 2 conditions, we would need to pay over the top for any extra talented player to swerve his mind. Again not all players are swerved by money and even though we are rich, we still have a transfer budget. And again, the more a player costs, the more criticism he gets (even from fans).
- Weather and city as always. Many players see Spain as a much preferred destination than rainy England. Some players genuinely perform better under brighter conditions. Also London is the better choice than Manchester. So even if they were coming to England, many would prefer London. It was not a problem when we were top dogs. A problem if we are not.
- German talents see Bayern as the ultimate aim and all Bayern needs to do is make a call. They all come for peanuts.
- Negative media reputation does not help. We are always under scrutiny. So small problems in team appear many times larger because we are constantly in the media. Again, it did not matter when we were top dogs and had one of the best managers in the world, but starts to matter when we don't have those.
All this does not mean, it will get fixed if we fire Jose. I doubt if there is someone on the market who is that much sought after.
Mahrez is such an obvious buy for United. Technically sound, can unlock defences, proven winner and would fit in well on RW.
I think our defenders are a huge reason our football is so shite.
We could sign Salah, and I think we'd still struggle to look a decent attacking side. We don't move the ball from defenders to attack well enough.
I'm not saying our problem will be solved by changing CBs but you can't have Smalling and ajones as your starting pair and hope to play consistently good football. We constantly hoof.
Doesn't excuse Mourinho, our best CBs on the ball (Lindelof and Bailly) haven't settled or aren't good enough and that's on him.
It doesn't mean we should stop trying to improve in that area.
However I agree that a RW is a must but just signing someone like Costa would only improve us marginally imo. This teams attacking issues are from front to back.
Playing a more aggressive brand of football would also help.
We took 7 out of 12 points from easily the best two attacking sides in the league (City and Pool) by limiting their attack. On the other side, we allowed nearly the same amount of goals as City did. The difference was that they have competent attackers who actually score goals. Sterling for instance, scored as many as Rashford and Martial put together. That's simply not good enough and certainly not something buying a CB will solve.
Cause they're not tall enough and they don't want to play for Mourinho. Hardly anyone does these days.
Because we have a manager who thinks limited workhorses like Fellaini, McTominay, Lingard and Rashford are good enough.
Because Mourinho struggles with those types and does better with more physical players.
Dont get me wrong, he does like having technical players but for him, they have to be physically imposing at the same time. He doesnt know how to coach a team that cant outjump and outmuscle the opposition.
Dont get me wrong, he does like having technical players but for him, they have to be physically imposing at the same time. He doesnt know how to coach a team that cant outjump and outmuscle the opposition.
Swap these players and their goal returns will swap too. The systems in which they operate couldn't be more different. What needs to change is the quality of our attacking setup which makes top drawer players like pogba, Sanchez etc look different shades of average.
That requires players who can score goals. Pogba isn't one of them and Alexis is past his peak and isn't likely to be repeating his performances from his Arsenal days.
It's hard to get a technically gifted player with Fellaini's size.
Way too much is being made about having centre backs who can play out from the back, way way too much. It’s important, but it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference to the fact our so called attacking and creative players seem toothless and lacking any ideas when they have the ball near the oppositions box.
My point is, we don't have a setup that gives these players the platform that their counterparts at City enjoy. We've spent quite a bit in improving individual quality without much return.
Can't disagree with that. The overarching problem is that Mourinho's style may no longer be amenable in a league that now contains both Pep and Klopp.
I'll reply to you but could be any of trolls on here with your uniquely hillarious comments.
Sanchez, Ozil, Deco, Oscar, Modric, Fabregas, Sneijder, Lingard, Mata.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Even as an avid lifelong United supporter, you would be insane to join us under Mourinho. ALL our attacking players have gone backwards under him except maybe Lingard.
Well like most top managers there’s only always 4 up for grabs. He still failed.
Thats fine because he will have another chance next season!
He will. He just won’t win a major.
Tall and technically great is apparently bad. You have to be short and technically great for it to count.
Because our manager would rather have 6 feet and over work horses that run circles instead of magicians in the final third. We've spent so much time but haven't even cleared the deadwood from the Fergie (Valencia, Young, Jones, Smalling), Moyes (Fellaini) and Van Gaal (Darmian, Blind) era.... Have a bad feeling that we'll end up with ageing players in the Mourinho era and the next manager will have to rebuild again...
Yeh. Just look at our best counter attacks. It's all about clever midfield and good attack.
This. Media homelessness has been proven again and again and again.
I think it’s like Matic situation but more acute.
Allot of people with egg on their face. Anything can happen but him being poor is the least likely scenario
Because Mourinho only wants players with 'presence' and dogsbody types who look busy but offer nothing outside that. Willian and Mahrez will both be available this summer, have we been linked to the greater technician and or the one that runs around a lot?
Yeah Willian just runs a lot.
He does have other sides to his game but Mahrez is comfortably the better player IMO.
Yeah, true, I just felt it's too simplistic Willian runs a lot, I mean he's a quality player. I think media is just throwing names at this point, including Willian. Played for Jose so he must be in for him.
Sorry but why is this even a thread? You yourself should know the answer. Our current manager likes tall heavyweight players to have physical advantage which will sadly not guarantee a success like he thinks. We are after technical players. Herrera was on our radar, we brought him in without a manager, Mata was brought in by Moyes who needed a player like this. Sanchez, Mkhitarian or di Maria were mostly also technical players but the recruitment is mostly going one way past few years due to Mourinho
Pretty big failure of a season then.
Chill out man, being linked or not being linked.. we all know how much media make up stories, they will run these stories because easily Mourinho has some history with big players and well we are really in a need of recruitment in defence. We are not linked with Messi because a) there is not a chance Barcelona would sell and b) the midget can't play leftback. I am pretty sure we will recruit in attack, not sure Willian is the player you are screaming for but I am sure we will surprise with a signing noone expected. Save some time, leave the gossip to media and hope Mourinho will change his mind about his tall soldiers.. in the end, he used, Mkhitaryan/Lingard/Sanchez/Mata so there's still hope we will recruit a technical player as we need one..You would think attackers who can unlocked defenses would be a priority after seeing our tumescent attack this year. Douglas Costa would be ideal for this category but I've seen no links.
Pep is already looking to improve with the likes of Mahrez while we are linked with defenders.
not sure why we are not in for Mahrez though, he'd be a good fit and my dream player who is available..
I said the same about Sanchez. I wanted is to sign him and glad we did but he's not lit the world on fire by any stretch. I'm hoping he's still fitting in.
Do we scout South America at all? When's the last time we signed a player from South America?
Because it's a question I've geniunely been asking myself? This is a forum for discussion and I want to hear other people's opinions on the matter? I know Mourinho's preferences in a player, but it's a glaring problem in the heart of our team and I don't see any sort of sign that we are trying to effectively solve it. I see us being linked with Savic, Fred and Talisca and I can't help but feel we're looking for the wrong type of player to solve our lethargic problem, and it leads me to my question.