Why aren't the other teams in the Premier League rallying to have City ousted?

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I'm vehemently against their cheating and have bemoaned it for quite some time on here. I'm but one of many dissenting voices that find 'fair play to City' posts highly egregious to the point of challenging such absurd rhetoric, but at the end of the day, I/we are just specks of dust quibbling amongst ourselves on a football forum.

Our collective noses are put out of joint by such flagrant cheating and flouting of the rules in place, but what I don't get is why clubs themselves are not up in arms about a club whose dodgy practices are affecting them and their aspirations as well as creating a playing field so unfair that the supposed apex of the entire season became an anticlimactic procession won at such a canter that Sky had to hurriedly gloss over and regale us with anecdotes about City and their supposed brilliance knowing that the audience, for the most part, simply aren't buying it, aware as they are of how such brilliance came to pass.

There was a mortifying dread and horror to the notion that Liverpool were so few games away from something you'd simply be an idiot to deny. A feat that would have even eclipsed us and our treble, delivered with a squad that simply should not be capable of such... the tension here was palpable and the hand that forces acknowledgement twisted into a pretzel primed to yelp: "give!" If that final appliance of pressure had been made. It's simply not where we are with City, which is more along the lines of:



With every overwhelming performance they deliver, the excise is: but, followed by the next round of discourse on how they've been allowed to flout the rules to such an extent, not how brilliant performance X, Y or Z was, which is driving Pep and [some of] their fans to a point of distraction. Even if they crush Madrid en route to the treble, the narrative will be a million miles off what would have been reserved for Liverpool last season, assured are we that many will pointedly remark on it all being 'a farce' or 'irrelevant' or 'something that should come with an asterisk, no matter what'.

Again, this is all fan-driven and irreverent in the grandscheme, but how is it that clubs competing against City -- clubs adhering to the rules -- who are losing out on trophies, placement earnings and all the rest of it, are not up in arms about what is being permitted to happen by institutions who are supposed to be working in the best interests of the game (lol) and upholding the rules every club signs up to to actually be allowed to partake? If City were to win the treble, you've: Arsenal, Madrid (or whoever else might contest the final as their opponent) plus ourselves who are fall guys. It is not begrudgement of a trophy lost in and of itself that is the bone of contention; it is that a trophy can be claimed via clear, improper conduct.

La Liga rallies against Juventus' CL participation over FFP breaches

How is it that we're hearing nothing regarding uproar from clubs bearing the brunt of what City have been allowed to do? Per the above, Juventus have had a worse time of it for doing less than City, how, Sway? What gives?

The TL;DR is just go by the header, but.. if you did so happen to read the waffle above, do you not find it perplexing that legitimate clubs (at least observant of, and adhering to, the rules in place) are seemingly so passive with regards to what is, and has, been transpiring? Further to this, will Real and La Liga say nothing if City tonk them? Why the discrepancy between Juve and City? A case of 'until found guilty'?

Would appreciate some insights on this because I would've thought clubs simply would not stand for it.... but seemingly, they are?
 
I don’t understand it either. There should be a wave of pressure to punish the cheats and instead it’s all gone quiet with the silence of acceptance.
 
The leadership at every premier league team will know what is going on with the case.

If they were making a lot of noise, it would suggest they think city will get away with it. They are very quiet, which suggests they believe there will be appropriate punishment.
 
They have very persuasive people influencing the media no doubt.

What gets me is that if they win a treble, the media will be gushing about how they are equal or even better than our 99 side which had 4 academy starters in it.
They have gotten where they are by cheating, but no one will really care if they get away with it.
Its the same for top level football in general, it’s poisoned but no one cares.
‘Bring on the Qataris!’
Newcastle owned by Saudi, a few grumbles and then oh well, back to the football!
Players costing hundreds of millions and getting hundreds of thousands a week while mostly being nobheads. etc.
 
They are.

They'll be nailed good and hard over their 100+ charges.
 
They have very persuasive people influencing the media no doubt.

What gets me is that if they win a treble, the media will be gushing about how they are equal or even better than our 99 side which had 4 academy starters in it.
They have gotten where they are by cheating, but no one will really care if they get away with it.
Its the same for top level football in general, it’s poisoned but no one cares.
Bring on the Qataris!’
Newcastle owned by Saudi, a few grumbles and then oh well, back to the football!
Players costing hundreds of millions and getting hundreds of thousands a week while mostly being nobheads. etc.

It will be very interesting to see/hear the narrative from the media if we get taken over by a nation state.

We're seeing City and Newcastle being pushed as fairytale stories, wonder if they'd have the balls (my guess is yes) to condemn our owners.
 
It's possible that it's better to stay silent for now to avoid any problems with the comission. Fans and media, on the other hand, are shameful in their silence.
 
The leadership at every premier league team will know what is going on with the case.

If they were making a lot of noise, it would suggest they think city will get away with it. They are very quiet, which suggests they believe there will be appropriate punishment.
Does it? I’d have thought the opposite was true
 
It’ll take years before it comes out though. Their lawyers will do their best to delay the whole thing just as they did the with uefa case
 
What should I be doing?
A 'down with this sort of thing' banner when teams play them is the least we should expect. There is a lot of admiration for them on this very forum.
 
A 'down with this sort of thing' banner when teams play them is the least we should expect. There is a lot of admiration for them on this very forum.
Only on the pitch. They may have cheated to put those particular individuals on that pitch, but once they’re on there they do play some good stuff. If they were proven to be on PEDs or something you’d probably see more pushback.
 
United fans are only extra loud about it because it's City (something which does not apply to other clubs), let's not pretend otherwise.
 
You're not wrong there.
I take your point though, it's not really shameful from fans, more media. I am a little saddened of folks' general acceptance of the situation though.
 
The media too, not a peep from them since the initial charges. I really hope they get their comeuppance but somehow I highly doubt it
 
They have very persuasive people influencing the media no doubt.

What gets me is that if they win a treble, the media will be gushing about how they are equal or even better than our 99 side which had 4 academy starters in it.
They have gotten where they are by cheating, but no one will really care if they get away with it.
Its the same for top level football in general, it’s poisoned but no one cares.
‘Bring on the Qataris!’
Newcastle owned by Saudi, a few grumbles and then oh well, back to the football!
Players costing hundreds of millions and getting hundreds of thousands a week while mostly being nobheads. etc.

They’ve been effectively buying and shmoozing the media for years. You’ll see very little negative coverage of City.
 
United fans are only extra loud about it because it's City (something which does not apply to other clubs), let's not pretend otherwise.

Liverpool should have a few reasons and now so does Arsenal fans. Both of them are cheated out of trophies by all that they get away with.

Also don't think anyone has the cojones to go against Citeh!
 
It won’t make much difference. The PL/UEFA peeps are cowards. They are also highly incompetent to actually win this case. So why bother?
 
Maybe because for the vast majority of clubs aren't United or Liverpool or Arsenal, it makes no difference whether the club at the top "earned their money" or didn't... They'll still get shafted under the current framework designed to keep top clubs at the top?

You think Everton cared that the money we used to buy Rooney was earned?

Anyways, what do I know? Football was amazing before 2003.
 
Do other clubs, or fans of other clubs, actually care about this? The people that are usually in arms about this stuff are the other big teams, but do Bournemouth or Burnley fans actually care about the difference in the source of the money if it's United buying their player versus City buying their player?
 
A 'down with this sort of thing' banner when teams play them is the least we should expect. There is a lot of admiration for them on this very forum.

Yeah, I hate it.
 
Great post. The normalization of cheating in the UK is truly thriving, backed by petro-billions.
 
Do other clubs, or fans of other clubs, actually care about this? The people that are usually in arms about this stuff are the other big teams, but do Bournemouth or Burnley fans actually care about the difference in the source of the money if it's United buying their player versus City buying their player?

Fans of smaller clubs understand the money was earned due to historical success, so they accept being bent over by United and Liverpool. City on the other hand...

Or something.
 
They don‘t want to alienate Abu Dhabi, a powerful group that contributed massively to making the PL this wealthy… They don’t want to dissuade other investors who want to get in.… The greedy owners want to keep selling at inflated prices to City and to N’Castle and to United once the Qataris take over… But they’d probably be hoping for some sort of punishment to make City reduce their cheating and hopefully allow some competition (More than 1 title in 6 years for the other 19 clubs)…


Maybe Abu Dhabi will themselves realise it is in their interest that other teams do win the league every now and then.
 
I would say, you would be vocal if you didn't have some shady skeletons in your closet. My gut feeling is every club has some inkling of a shady dealing and you would not want focus shifted to you.
 
How is everyone cheating?

In tons of different ways. Myriad different financial shenanigans from "incentives" offered to the parents of kids upwards, doping, and of course the blatant on-field cheating which happens every single game.

If you think there's a team in the English league system that hasn't cheated in the past 12 months, you are crazy.

None of them have any sort of moral high ground to stand on.
 
The Premier league is massive they Need the best players in it. So turning a blind eye to what City do benefits them financially.
 
Our fans are too busy trying to join them after years of seemingly just pretending to be against them.
 
A 'down with this sort of thing' banner when teams play them is the least we should expect. There is a lot of admiration for them on this very forum.

True, there are "ManUtd fans" who defend City all the time and that's all they do in football forum. Infested this thread already.
 
thw owners are probably scared of the wealth of City. anything any owner says, they will be sued

Pep is seeing as a god by most if not all managers. Don't you find it crazy the guy who is about to win 5 of the last 6 leagues has had no real public spats with any manager? given the last few years, it would be natural to think Klopp and him wouldn't get along, but its not in Klopps soul to hate on a manager playing expansive football. His biggest local rivals are coached by a guy (ETH) who kind of used to be under him in the past. Theres a reason he has lasted 6+ years at City when he couldn't do it at his beloved Barca with the best player ever in his team.
 
The non top 6-7 are happy to see City spend big. They benefit a lot in transfer fees when city come calling.