But the vast majority of players don't.
Why are we not retraining Garnacho as an RW?
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There’s so much nonsense in this thread.
1. we’ll sell Rashford in a year or two.
Why? He was one of the top attackers in the league last season, if he has another year like this we’d be stupid to consider that.
2. Gernacho should replace Rashford.
Why? Gernacho is young and a brilliant talent but he needs time to grow and reach his potential.
3.We should move Gernacho to right wing as he can’t displace Rashford.
Why? No player is guaranteed a spot. It would be great if Gernacho continues to develop and Rashford hits form, then they were both at the top of the game and it was hard to choose a starter.
1. we’ll sell Rashford in a year or two.
Why? He was one of the top attackers in the league last season, if he has another year like this we’d be stupid to consider that.
2. Gernacho should replace Rashford.
Why? Gernacho is young and a brilliant talent but he needs time to grow and reach his potential.
3.We should move Gernacho to right wing as he can’t displace Rashford.
Why? No player is guaranteed a spot. It would be great if Gernacho continues to develop and Rashford hits form, then they were both at the top of the game and it was hard to choose a starter.
The OPs point is not about guaranteeing anyone starting time. It's about using a promising winger in a problem position. The idea is more about increasing Garnacho's playing time even if it's in an unfamiliar position.
I don't know whether it would work, but I'm surprised we haven't really attempted it considering it's such a problem position.
Why would we retrain our most talented forward away from his preferred position? I think in a couple of years he will be starting on the left and it's Rashford who will be struggling for appearances and thinking about a new position.
How good is his left foot? Nani, at his best, was brilliant from the right because he was so ambidextrous. He could cut in and shoot with both feet and he could go on the outside and cross.
However, Nani was faster and especially quicker off the mark than Garnacho and a more accomplished dribbler. Garnacho is more direct though. I can see Garnacho doing well against some defenders when playing on the right, but struggling against the faster fullbacks.
However, Nani was faster and especially quicker off the mark than Garnacho and a more accomplished dribbler. Garnacho is more direct though. I can see Garnacho doing well against some defenders when playing on the right, but struggling against the faster fullbacks.
Rashford has shown how limited he is, and there is not really a reason to build with him for the future if we want to be a top team.
Really, his performances last season were among the best in Europe in that position.
In terms of goals, but in terms of general play across the season, not close.
I think the simple answer is just that ETH doesn't like right footers on the right side. That was apparent with the Antony transfer which was probably conducted not only because he knew him, but also because he was one of those available left footers in a relatively small market. Hence the ridiculous fee we extended ourselves to.
Whether that is right or wrong is up for debate but I think that's the managers general philosophy and balance he likes and he only goes to right footers if Antony is not available. Wouldn't be surprised if he tries buying another left footer.
I think it makes some sense in modern football as many teams don't have goalscorers that score sufficient goals to carry the team. A lot of slack is taken up out wide and you don't get as many shooting chances when you play orthodox wingers as the angles are worse.
Whether that is right or wrong is up for debate but I think that's the managers general philosophy and balance he likes and he only goes to right footers if Antony is not available. Wouldn't be surprised if he tries buying another left footer.
I think it makes some sense in modern football as many teams don't have goalscorers that score sufficient goals to carry the team. A lot of slack is taken up out wide and you don't get as many shooting chances when you play orthodox wingers as the angles are worse.
He’s more likely be developed through the middle than on the right.
My question is: is it possible to train players to be two footed? I think the answer is yes in principle. In reality it takes too many years probably.
Just tell him that his idol, CR7 started his career at this club as RW
dont think inverted winger on both flanks is the way to go, especially when you see hojlund as typical traditional no. 9 who flourish with services from his teammates, it's ETH task to make sure his players understand this.
Spot on and let’s add an exclamation point — ! — here. We’ve got a proper 9 to whom balls must fed (sorry about how that sounds) instead of watching his inverted wingers constantly cutting him and taking shots from outside the box. Those cuts need to be viable threats but when you see Antony and Rashford cut in time after time, they’re starving their CF of any service.
You've literally just explained it in your own post! Walker (right footed) and Andy Robertson (left footed) play at full back! It's their job to go beyond the wide forward, who will typically use the opposite foot, and offer the crossing option.
I wouldn’t put it like that. No one was ever gonna suggest playing Antonio Valencia on the left because of his one dimensional approach to football. Or Peter Crouch as a winger. Premier leagues best strikers Henry, Rooney, Anelka , Kun, RVP played wide at some point. We also have those who never did like Drogba, Dzeko, Torres, RVN etc. based on attributes, certain players can play other positions better.
In our squad, Martial ST and LW, Amrabat LB and CM so far, Cassemiro CDM and CB, Shaw CB and LB, Dalot LB and RB, Eriksen CM and AM. Others have not been tried but you can see why they can succeed like Martinez CDM, Dalot CB and all our wingers on the opposite site . Some players are too specialised like Varane, AWB, Hojlund etc.
Yes but for most of these players they filled in these roles, they didn't play them half as well as their normal roles.
But it helped put in players who are too good to leave out. For example Rooney Tevez Ronaldo is a superior front 3 than any other combination you might have without any of the 3. Same applies to Henry Eto’o Messi and Eto’o and Millito instead of Eto’o or Millito.
Who is too good to leave out?
Carl Anka talked about this on Talk of the Devils this week. The feeling is that ETH just wants Garnacho to specialise in one position and doesn’t want to muddle his development, which feels like the complete opposite of the usual Ajax approach.
It’s very weird how many players have played in different positions under ETH, but Garnacho has been religiously an inside left.
It’s very weird how many players have played in different positions under ETH, but Garnacho has been religiously an inside left.
Right footed players are left wingers and left footed players are right wingers. Even if they look good, they will still be better on the other side.
Something so simple yet our scouts and fans can’t comprehend. Instead we’ve wasted money on Sanchez, Mkhitaryan, Sancho, Pellistri etc over the years to play RW.
Just look at the RW from the top teams.
City - Silva/Foden (left footed)
Pool - Salah (left footed)
Arsenal - Saka (left footed)
Spurs - Kulusevski (left footed)
Villa — ?? (Right footed probably unless it’s Bailey )
Brighton - March (left footed)
West ham - Bowen (left footed)
Newcastle - Almiron (left footed)
Something so simple yet our scouts and fans can’t comprehend. Instead we’ve wasted money on Sanchez, Mkhitaryan, Sancho, Pellistri etc over the years to play RW.
Just look at the RW from the top teams.
City - Silva/Foden (left footed)
Pool - Salah (left footed)
Arsenal - Saka (left footed)
Spurs - Kulusevski (left footed)
Villa — ?? (Right footed probably unless it’s Bailey )
Brighton - March (left footed)
West ham - Bowen (left footed)
Newcastle - Almiron (left footed)
If we knew how to train anything, then we should start with more important things.