Who's off and how much will we get?

  • We won't sell anyone for 10mil, unless De Gea goes and we're looking at around €30mil or £22mil for him. At least 20mil under his actual value.
  • Rafael will be brilliant wherever he goes next. "World class" within a year if he goes to Spain. If we were buying him we'd be looking at 15-20mil. He'll go for well under 5.
  • Evans was an established premier league winning centre back until the 3 at the back experiment messed him up this season. He's worth more than 10. He'll go for around 3 and be a massive player for some lower league prem team who have plenty of money and could afford to pay 4x that price.
  • Hernandez scored well enough in the few minutes he got for Madrid this year. He's a proven finisher and will go for 5-7mil. By comparison, since 2010/11, Mario Balotelli has been sold 3 times for €26mil, €24mil and €27mil, despite scoring less often than Susan fecking Boyle.
  • Nani has had a good season in Portugal and has undeniable talent. He'll be brilliant for a Portuguese or Spanish team and is worth at least what we paid for him. He'll go for peanuts while Chelsea will sell Cuadrado for serious bucks.
  • Statistically, Michael Keane was in the top ten defenders under 23 in Europe this year. Now Statistics aren't everything but surely that suggests he was worth more than the 2mil we gave him to Burnley for?
Now I don't really care about the money we receive. The club makes enough money to go after the players we want and I'm not naive enough to think that big money made from transfers would go towards anything that actually effects us supporters, like ticket prices. It just seems about time that what's gone around comes around. We're giving our hand me downs to anyone who asks but still get fleeced every time we go after a player.

It's a bit embarrassing when you see clubs like Juve, Chelsea and Barca who seem so much more effective in the transfer market than us.
 
I remember when we let O'Shea and Brown go, there were a few posters who lost it that we had not sold either of them for 15mil. They could never answer the question of who exactly would have shelled out 15mil for either of those players are that point in their career?

End of the day , you can negotiate better deals but you probably are not going to be able to turn a 5mil player into a 15mil to 20mil player just by being shrewd.

It is pretty well known that neither Nani nor Hernandez fit in with our plans, or at least pretty well assumed to be the case. Neither has a huge upside to their talent level. Both are very good players. But unless a bidding war starts we are not going to see a large transfer fee for either player.

Earlier in the thread I probably over-valued RvP if we sell him, given his age, his contract situation who is going to pay a large fee for him?

Raf? Given his injury situation and how it appears LvG does not rate him, are big spending clubs going to be lining up for him?
 
In Pounds:
De Gea - 24 - Real, obviously. Same they paid for Kroos
Evans - 5 - Newcastle, Everton and Palace all need CBs
Nani - 7 - Good season, but he's a speedy winger who will be 29 years old just 3 months into the next season
Rafael - 3 - We'll come close to selling him to a Brazilian side for almost nothing and then someone in Italy or Spain will make a better but still terrible offer, which we'll take.
Hernandez - 14 - He's a goalscorer. Proven strikers create bidding wars.
Henriquez - 4 - Scored goals in Croatia, only 21 and might get some time at the Copa America. Some mid-table side in La Liga will be watching.
RVP - 4 - He's older and has huge wages.

60, but that's optimistic. Still, the Prem teams got more money and that should help with Evans and Hernandez at least.
 
You have to remember that transfer fees are only half the story though. Getting rid of players gets rid of their wages too. The club can generate huge transfer budgets without the need to sell, so money coming in can be seen as a bonus. You have to remember that the players who leave are not wanted, and everyone is aware of their limitations because they are in the spotlight.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I've no idea, but given that your wage bill is one of the world's biggest I'd imagine that their wages are very substantial from the perspective of the average squad wage in any potential buying clubs.
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I read something about how a big chunk of our wage bill is taken up by the the big commercial team we have.
 
ADJUDICATOR said:
The thread asked who you think would go, and not who you want (or think should) go. I think if the latter was the case then players like Young, Fellaini and Valencia might still be on the list regardless of what progress van Gaal has made in reviving their careers.
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If you think Van Gaal's letting Fellaini or Young go anywhere at the moment you're barking.
 
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