Who would you bring as a DoF or in the MUFC back office ?

Telsim said:
The Glazers are just going to allow Ratcliffe to replace one of their puppets for someone with standards and demands?

Sure.
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Arnold will stay. That I'm sure
Murtough will work on something else. He's not our DoF anyway so who the feck knows
 
Surprised we haven’t tried and got Paul Mitchell. He’d jump at the chance to work here.
 
SparkedIntoLife said:
I see Paul Mitchell's been linked. Can't help wondering if he's a bit of a myth as a supposed top DoF. Monaco just got rid of him.
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He chose to leave Monaco, I think we probably will appoint him now. He can’t be worse than Murtough and I’m sure there will be accountability with INEOS so he’ll have to do a good job or he’ll be sacked.
 
Has anyone knows if Mitchell/Edwards were also the ones that negotiated deals with players/clubs ?

Or was it a another sort of a negotiation specialist ?
 
I am a great fan of ETH but I believe he needs a DOF to work with. In his best time at Ajax he worked with Overmars who was the DOF and they did a great job. Overmars has done a similar good job at Antwerp with Mark van Bommel. I'm not suggetsting we get Overmars ( we have enough sex realted scandals alreay) but we need a DOF
 
gaffs said:
Is expertise is on the marketing side, after obtaining a masters post football retirment. He later became CEO.

VDS as CEO would be a popular choice, but im not sure if he is experienced enough or if INEOS have a say in recruiting a new CEO.
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I’m not being serious. A point at those who have continuously called for him to be DoF despite never having done it before
 
My guess. INEOS will bring in Dave Brailsford to oversee football operations, reporting back to Ratcliffe
Paul Mitchell will work under Brailsford and be more of a hands on DOF or Sporting Directory.

Or maybe john Murtough stays, he reports into Ratcliffe and he has Paul Mitchell undernearh him.

Either way, it is hard for fans to really judge the merits of any of these potential employments.

We do know that Paul Mitchell does have a good record at Southampton, The Red Bull group and Monaco, which is more than the experience we currently have in the club.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
How about the current Brighton DOF? It seems he is better especially getting De Zebri in as manager.
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I mean how many times do people get luckily. They as an institution are ran well I don’t think it’s one guy and the main guy joined Newcastle.

We are better trying our own thing by with a “plan”
 
Mainoldo said:
I mean how many times do people get luckily. They as an institution are ran well I don’t think it’s one guy and the main guy joined Newcastle.

We are better trying our own thing by with a “plan”
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Well, I'm skeptical we can have our own "plan".

Brighton is something special. In the history of PL, small teams who did well was usually play a kind of negative football. But Brighton plays modern attacking football. This is something we never seen before.

We should try to get whoever there (main brain behind Brighton) to establish our football structure here including their maybe their manager De Zebri if ETH doesn't improve.
 
I never understand why people have real opinions on matters like how good a DOF is, or sporting director is, or someone part of a coaching staff (not the manager). Beyond manager and players, we really have 0 insight to to actual impact anyone else is making. If things are working, is it a lucky spell or because of somebody else, or actually because that person knows what he's doing? Is there even any basis to say the same method something worked at Brighton will work at a big club? That was Chelseas line of thinking and it hasn't gone well so far.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
Well, I'm skeptical we can have our own "plan".

Brighton is something special. In the history of PL, small teams who did well was usually play a kind of negative football. But Brighton plays modern attacking football. This is something we never seen before.

We should try to get whoever there (main brain behind Brighton) to establish our football structure here including their maybe their manager De Zebri if ETH doesn't improve.
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We’ve had Southampton and Swansea before Brighton. It’s not really that new.
 
My dream team would be

CEO: Beppe Marotta. The guy had went up the ranks and had been instrumental both in the rise of Juventus and Inter. Hopefully his predecessor Blanc who failed at Juve would appreciate his efforts and sign him up
Sporting Director: Michael Edwards. The guy was the brains behind Liverpool's success. He hardly got a foot wrong during the time.
DOF: Rangnick: An experienced DOF who know exactly what's wrong at the club
Head of recruitment: Mitchell. A local lad whose got experience in England, Germany and France. Rangnick was his mentor and they had done a good job together
 
bosnian_red said:
I never understand why people have real opinions on matters like how good a DOF is, or sporting director is, or someone part of a coaching staff (not the manager). Beyond manager and players, we really have 0 insight to to actual impact anyone else is making. If things are working, is it a lucky spell or because of somebody else, or actually because that person knows what he's doing? Is there even any basis to say the same method something worked at Brighton will work at a big club? That was Chelseas line of thinking and it hasn't gone well so far.
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This is it. To be honest a lot of sporting success is trial and error. This is why so many want the Glazers out as they just want to press the whole reset button. If you can't locate the foul stench in the house just tear it down. Liverpool and Arsenal are also being weighed down by their owners but have challenged recently, after much longer out of the spotlight than us. They just happen to have got it together, Liverpool in particular getting Klopp in.

We really need the right manager first. I want to see us get the best out of what we have and ETH isn't doing that at the moment. It would be good to see changes above him but we've no idea what effect it would actually have, all we know is we aren't winning the league and something is up.
 
devilish said:
My dream team would be

CEO: Beppe Marotta. The guy had went up the ranks and had been instrumental both in the rise of Juventus and Inter. Hopefully his predecessor Blanc who failed at Juve would appreciate his efforts and sign him up
Sporting Director: Michael Edwards. The guy was the brains behind Liverpool's success. He hardly got a foot wrong during the time.
DOF: Rangnick: An experienced DOF who know exactly what's wrong at the club
Head of recruitment: Mitchell. A local lad whose got experience in England, Germany and France. Rangnick was his mentor and they had done a good job together
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That's a great team!
 
SparkedIntoLife said:
I see Paul Mitchell's been linked. Can't help wondering if he's a bit of a myth as a supposed top DoF. Monaco just got rid of him.
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I think this forum will quickly realise a DoF can be just as bad a hire as a manager, there's no quick fix for United
 
Yakuza_devils said:
That's a great team!
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thanks I appreciate. Marotta is amazing. He took Sampdoria from tenth place in the Serie B to sixth place in the Serie A and just 1 point away from CL qualification. He then went to Juventus who were still recovering from calciopoli and he made them into the Bayern Munich of Italy. Then he fell out with them because he believed that Juventus were wrong in spending crazy money for Ronaldo. He moved to Inter and voila he turned their fortunes there as well. Beppe is known for taking tough decisions (including selling club legends like Trezeguet), he has an eye (excuse the pun) for top talent at staff level. He was the one who discovered Paratici and Conte. He is not afraid to take tough decisions and to stick to them however he's also ready to swallow his pride and get someone he burnt bridges with just for the good of the club (ex Conte). On top of that he is reasonably approachable with fans. He even did a video with the gli autogol (a famous youtube channel focused on football comedy) were he pretended to help them with their fantasy team.

The rest you know them.
 
devilish said:
thanks I appreciate. Marotta is amazing. He took Sampdoria from tenth place in the Serie B to sixth place in the Serie A and just 1 point away from CL qualification. He then went to Juventus who were still recovering from calciopoli and he made them into the Bayern Munich of Italy. Then he fell out with them because he believed that Juventus were wrong in spending crazy money for Ronaldo. He moved to Inter and voila he turned their fortunes there as well. Beppe is known for taking tough decisions (including selling club legends like Trezeguet), he has an eye (excuse the pun) for top talent at staff level. He was the one who discovered Paratici and Conte. He is not afraid to take tough decisions and to stick to them however he's also ready to swallow his pride and get someone he burnt bridges with just for the good of the club (ex Conte). On top of that he is reasonably approachable with fans. He even did a video with the gli autogol (a famous youtube channel focused on football comedy) were he pretended to help them with their fantasy team.

The rest you know them.
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Every single one in the team you listed have vast experience and proper track records at big clubs unlike our Murtough most notable experience is from Everton.
 
gaffs said:
My guess. INEOS will bring in Dave Brailsford to oversee football operations, reporting back to Ratcliffe
Paul Mitchell will work under Brailsford and be more of a hands on DOF or Sporting Directory.

Or maybe john Murtough stays, he reports into Ratcliffe and he has Paul Mitchell undernearh him.

Either way, it is hard for fans to really judge the merits of any of these potential employments.

We do know that Paul Mitchell does have a good record at Southampton, The Red Bull group and Monaco, which is more than the experience we currently have in the club.
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I think that SJR has learnt his lesson that bicycles and football don't work well together and in typical Ratcliffe fashion he gave him a kick upstairs. That's what he did with his brother Bob who saw his role change from CEO of NICE to CEO of head of football were he now reports to Blanc CEO of INEOS Sport. I can't see SJR allowing Brailsford to be our CEO.
 
devilish said:
I think that Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE has learnt his lesson that bicycles and football don't work well together and in typical Ratcliffe fashion he gave him a kick upstairs. That's what he did with his brother Bob who saw his role change from CEO of NICE to CEO of head of football were he now reports to Blanc CEO of INEOS Sport. I can't see Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE allowing Brailsford to be our CEO.
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CEO - no way.

I said "oversee football operations", which is the current Murdough role.
 
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