The Zidane to United creeps around every year, just like Ronaldo back to United. Never gonna happen.
Who replaces Ten Hag?
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Just keep hiring bald managers, eventually bound to get one of them right.
This is a very reliable source this time apparently.
Ok. It would be a very interesting appointment that's for sure.
Yeah. Zizou was just a bench jockey / cheerleader for those 3 CL titles.
Were much better off with proven winners like Ten Hag, Southgate and Potter
Well realistically there are only two options:
Option 1: Zidane is extremely picky with the selection of his club/country, which begs the question why in the world he´d go to the current United of all clubs.
Option 2: All the smart elite clubs do indeed believe that he was more of a motivator than a coach and that his success was a combination of a settled veteran squad and working at "home". That his skills are not easily replicable under different circumstances, especially if his main asset is lost in translation. Therefore they are not interested on a risk/reward analysis.
Even with the Bayern rumours the language and lay of the land are a major concern, therefore it´s always reported as a package deal with an assistant Ribery, who knows the club, the language and the Bundesliga.
From the outside looking in, it´s so obvious what needs to happen at United.
1. You need a young energetic progressive coach that has the energy to ignite the whole club. Easier said than done, but they are out there. You do not need a finished older article like Ancelotti. When you build thousands of community housing flats and you need a prgamatic solution to the placement of the toilets and showers to make it comfortable for the low-income inhabitants, you hire a smart, but ambitious architect trying to make a name for himself with great solutions, not some star architect that has build the Burj Khalifa and couldn´t give a sh*t.
2. That young energetic coach needs the full support from the structure above and INEOS needs to sniff out any (seemingly inevitable) player BS. It doesn´t matter whether your coach is Zidane or McKenna, what matters is that the club hierarchy is 100% behind the coach. The main problem at United has always been that the players felt they could undermine the coach by playing games internally or through the press.
I’m hearing they aren’t settling for “what’s available”
View is they will replace ETH (not their man) and it will be a “best in class” appointment.
View is they will replace ETH (not their man) and it will be a “best in class” appointment.
Maybe ZZ’s learning english to take the Liverpool job? Can’t see him coming to United under the current circumstances- it would be career suicide.
Who are all these smart elite clubs?
He needs to learn how to speak scouse and bad poetry for that. English won’t cut it.
I would bring Keane in for a season to knock a few players into shape with Kieran Mckenna alongside.
Why on Earth would Zidane come to Utd ….we can’t even offer him CL football.
It’d take £20m+ per year and a miracle to get him ….suppose we can only hope.
It’d take £20m+ per year and a miracle to get him ….suppose we can only hope.
Zidane is not coming to OT.
I will now put this Zidane next to my Schneider and De Jong. Perfect!
I don’t see how Zidane would be the right manager at this stage.
We need a manager who can help stabilise things in a period of transition where we go from being a stupid club to a not stupid club. Zidane comes in when we’ve gone through all the pain and suffering of purging all the stupid , it ain’t gonna happen over one summer
I have my doubts as well. We are not exactly Madrid esque these days.
I mean I get people are not happy with our managers , I’m ok with that , but how can people accept the club has been a mess for 10 years but think if we just sacked managers faster things would of been better cause that’s what works at well run clubs!!!
Two La Liga titles, against a peak Atletico and a Luis Enrique led Barca, bested City, Bayern, Juventus, and Liverpool twice. That isn’t exactly a dog shit run up to those CL titles.
‘Sure, he had a great squad. But the same squad imploded under Lopetegui and Solari and Zizou came back in and took them to a La Liga title. Lopetegui would go on to win the Europa League and finish 4th with Sevilla for 3 straight seasons, a much bigger accomplishment than Ten Hag, Potter or Southgate IMHO.
He’s the first manager to win three straight CL’s since the format change in 1993 which made it a MUCH harder competition. The only teams to do it previously were Real Madrid in 50-60s, Ajax and Bayern in the 70’s. It was simply a different competition. Ajax faced Nentori, Basel, Celtic, Atletico and Panathinaikos in the final to win in 71. The CL now is so much more difficult. Pep’s Barca never won 3 straight and they are generally considered the best side ever.
You can scoff all you want at Zidane, but he’s absolutely elite as a manager. His control of the dressing room is unparalleled and same for the press. He’s managed, successfully, in perhaps the biggest pressure cooker in world football. His draw in Recruiting new talent would be incredible.
We won’t get him, and if we did, he probably would need a couple seasons to bring our first major titles, but to suggest he’s a nitwit because he had a bunch of talent and not give him credit for maybe the best 3 year run in CL history is idiocy.
Yes. I mean, seriously…
I literally said in my original post that you responded to that he did an incredible job, my point was that the squad he had there was stacked and he got the best out of them and ours is bobbins and so the task is completely different. I'm not sure where you've got the idea that I called him a nitwit or scoffed at his achievements, I was just pointing out the context is not comparable to United at the moment.Two La Liga titles, against a peak Atletico and a Luis Enrique led Barca, bested City, Bayern, Juventus, and Liverpool twice. That isn’t exactly a dog shit run up to those CL titles.
‘Sure, he had a great squad. But the same squad imploded under Lopetegui and Solari and Zizou came back in and took them to a La Liga title. Lopetegui would go on to win the Europa League and finish 4th with Sevilla for 3 straight seasons, a much bigger accomplishment than Ten Hag, Potter or Southgate IMHO.
He’s the first manager to win three straight CL’s since the format change in 1993 which made it a MUCH harder competition. The only teams to do it previously were Real Madrid in 50-60s, Ajax and Bayern in the 70’s. It was simply a different competition. Ajax faced Nentori, Basel, Celtic, Atletico and Panathinaikos in the final to win in 71. The CL now is so much more difficult. Pep’s Barca never won 3 straight and they are generally considered the best side ever.
You can scoff all you want at Zidane, but he’s absolutely elite as a manager. His control of the dressing room is unparalleled and same for the press. He’s managed, successfully, in perhaps the biggest pressure cooker in world football. His draw in Recruiting new talent would be incredible.
We won’t get him, and if we did, he probably would need a couple seasons to bring our first major titles, but to suggest he’s a nitwit because he had a bunch of talent and not give him credit for maybe the best 3 year run in CL history is idiocy.
Yes. I mean, seriously…
It's irrelevant anyway, he walked away from that team at a club with whom he had a real emotional attachment after 2 and a bit years both times, it's going to take probably longer than that to construct a somewhat decent squad so there's no reason why he would come here.
Not sure this is the best example as Ronaldo came back to United
Everyone who is Zidane in, be careful what you wish for. I like him, but you lot have the 3 UCL in a row blinders on. He knew exactly what kind of team he had when he took the job. World class players all over that pitch as well as the best player on the planet. Compared to RM at that time, this United team are a League 1 side. His CV is light, and how long would he actually stay before getting frustrated with the time it would take for this side to return as a top team in England/Europe? He didn't even stick around after those 3 titles. Who knows how true the stories are, but I'm not so sure it would be the right move. He certainly would command respect from the players and his man managment is pretty good from what I have heard.
I stopped reading there, what load of bullshit
The guy just knocked City out of CL with young and most exciting players in europe.
He would be the perfect guy to get the club back on track, he’s not coming but he would be the perfect fit!
Still, it’s more likely not to happen. Although Deschamps signing for the FFF for next WC cycle means Zizou isn’t going to wait.
Why? He’s never had the chance to squad build. Going against Pep head to head and beating him would just add to his legacy.
We’re now under INEOS and have deep pockets.
I think none of us know what’s in that man’s head. He literally quit at Real after 3 straight CL titles. Nobody knows. It’s an absolute long shot, but to bring in a grifter to “stabilize the side” at 12m / year, why not bring in the gold standard for 20m? Seriously, some in the Caf have a small mindset.
Personally, I’d never want to live in Manchester, but you could convince me for 60m guaranteed.
Riiiiight….
Zidane
Potter
De Zerbi
Southgate
Ten Hag
‘Can you spot the one who has actually won major trophies?
Zidane is about the only person I'd be fine replacing ten hag with tbh.
Sorry mate, but let’s assume you have billions on the line. You’ve just bought into a club that is generally considered one of the 3 or 5 biggest clubs in the world. Your asset value and results in the league and Champions League literally add 100s of millions to your asset value.
Do you:
A. Bring in a proven manager who has won major league titles in the big 5 leagues and won the CL. A man who has dealt with pressure and delivered. You pay, say double what you would for an unproven or lower league proven manager.
B. Save 10m a year and take a chance on a premier league and CL mostly unproven manager.
It’s A and it’s not close. Making the CL every year is worth 70-80m. Mitigating risk by bringing in a proven manager is much less risky than bringing in a De Zerbi or Potter or Motta or Amorim.
It has to be Potter.
We will have a new structure with a mainly English feel about it and we will bring in an English manager with an eye for playing good entertaining football and knows the Premier League and he will be given time unlike his time at Basket case Chelsea.
Forget all this Zidane crap and any other manager from a tinpot league.
We will have a new structure with a mainly English feel about it and we will bring in an English manager with an eye for playing good entertaining football and knows the Premier League and he will be given time unlike his time at Basket case Chelsea.
Forget all this Zidane crap and any other manager from a tinpot league.
Sure, we should go for Potter or Southgate instead, you know with their excellent résumés.
I pray this is satire.
Bayern makes so much more sense for Zidane. He’s never really built a squad or coached a great style of play, has he? At Madrid what he did was more akin to Ancelotti’s achievements there but elevated.
Like LVG and Jose??
Been there and done that and fell asleep watching the games.
People are still ignoring Ratcliffe saying he wants to generate a style of play and hire coaches who play that way. That rules out Zidane, that rules out the likes of Southgate.
Our next head coach will have defined principles.
This is just media trying to get clicks.
Our next head coach will have defined principles.
This is just media trying to get clicks.
Funny... so you don't know what style is intented to be used, but you already know that Zidane won't be a fit for that?
Claiming that he has no principles is probably a bit far fetched.
He used a 433/442 at RM.
Maybe he sees the state of our midfield and fancies himself as a player-manager
or again, the allure of waking up a sleeping giant
or again, the allure of waking up a sleeping giant
Zidane should go back to Madrid not manage us. Makes zero sense as English football is ruthless and quite honestly I just don’t think the guy needs it.
What's the point when Madrid have basically built a new squad already. We are years behind competing with them and especially City in Europe.
What's the point when Madrid have basically built a new squad already. We are years behind competing with them and especially City in Europe.
I lived in Madrid for two years that Zidane was coach. I enjoyed a lot of live football watching his Madrid side. He has his style but it’s not defined.
Do you believe that Ashworth, Wilcox etc will identify that counter attack, high wing pressure is going to be the way Manchester United is going to play and then bring in Zidane??
Where is the continuity in that direction?
Do you think that after all these changes the club won’t choose a defined style of play? It could be anything, maybe it’s gegenpress, maybe it’s possession. Whatever it is, they will decide on a style and the coach will fit that style.
It would be utter madness to go through all the work required to bring in serious and talented football operators like Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox and the saddle them with two average coaches who wouldn't have the support of the base. Woodward did that with Ole but he was Ole and you can see how the constant doubting wore him down, Potter wouldn't last half a season if he didn't hit the ground running same as Southgate. It would be foolish to start your rein by igniting a civil war with the fan base.
I think we now have the collection of great football brains at Executive and senior levels such that the question of who replaces Ten Hag will be answered by Southgate or Potter. That would be silly and reckless. A guy like Blanc would have access to Zidane, Berrada and Ashworth should know the best upcoming coaches on the continent and within the league and Ratcliffe is interested enough to get involved in any talks. I can see us getting a really top coach and spending heavily in the summer. No way Ratcliffe wants to start on a negative footing, INEOS may have made him rich but this is his legacy project.
Well firstly I don’t recall him wording it this way. And secondly, what people ignore more is that Ratcliffe and Ineos won’t be picking the next manager or coaches
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