This may seem crazy to most but I miss our Antonio Valencia on the RW. He was a beast and is better than what we have right now by a mile.
Who is your preferred option for the RW spot?
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Exactly. For any Nani braindead moment on occasion Antony gives us 3 or 4 a game.
We were that good people really do misunderstand how good some of the non-key figures were. Nani would be battling for our best player.
No. Him hitting the first defender with his aimless bullet crosses isn’t the answer either. That said, he’d be a darn sight better than Antony.
Dalot can somewhat beat a man and get a cross in. That on its own merit should have him starting before Antony.
Quite clearly Antony. Sancho is Sancho, provides nothing really on the ball and you lose the workrate of Antony, Amad injured/inexperienced and Pellistri is such a drop off. The only real option is to hope that Antony's form turns around and he also steps up a level. The former will happen as everyone's form is bad at the moment. The latter is up for debate, but I would not be surprised if we have to go back in for another right winger next year.
Ability wise, most definitely. The club need to resolve this issue.
At this point, I would say feck it and just try Dalot as our right winger. Offensively, he's better than Antony in every regard. In terms of their defensive input, they're similar. I know people might laugh but I seriously don't think he could play any worse than Antony has been in that position.
Mount if Bruno starts in CAM
Antony if Mount starts in CAM
Antony if Mount starts in CAM
He whom we shall not mention or Rashy.
We tried dalot already, he was shit.
He will never wear the shirt again. They've gotten but a taste of the backlash, they won't go down that road again.
Antony is the best of a bad bunch, but for his own sake, he also needs to be taken out for a bit. I would go with Pellestri / Mount until he gets whatever malaise he has out of his system.
Well I guess at this point the question is who can we play there that is the least shit?
Without a doubt. He would be a good balance to the lads always cutting in on the other side too
Whichever one isn’t playing at the time always seems the best option. Especially when they get a cameo against tired defenders off the bench. So Sancho takes the spot at the moment. Then I’m sure Amad will start looking pretty appealing. Wonder if we’ve got anyone form the youth teams to throw in by the end of the season…
It is the height of disrespect to Nani to compare Antony to him and a sign that sime of us don't even know what we are watching. Antony is not in the same universe. Nani won us a title with Berbatov in 10/11. Led the league in assists and added 9 goals. Antony can only dream to have that much impact on any team period let alone a title-winning team. Antony is more comparable to Dan James or Bebe than Nani.
Every player in the list isn’t good enough to play RW for United.
It should be greenwood or buy a RW.
It should be greenwood or buy a RW.
I would try Sancho there, but with us lacking so many goals I’ll prefer him as a false 9 just to have Rashford playing in his preferred postion
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Could be kill or cure but I’d try it. Rashford does not, in my view, have the overall footballing ability to make it worthwhile sacrificing a midfield for. He has spurts every year or two in which he is brilliant, but these should not distract us from the fact that the rest of the time he is sulky, detached and poor.
Obviously this is not going to happen. But Jesus, I for one can’t stand another decade like the last. Apologies- feeling miserable about the club right now.
Wow lots of words! Pellistri. End of
Still Antony for now, but he does have to start delivering soon or his position should come under threat. I think Pellistri's maybe good for 15-20 minutes off the bench but I don't know if he's ready to start games yet. I'd like to see Amad given his chance in some of the cup games when he's back from injury but I'm not holding out too much hope there.
I've got no real appetite to see the likes of Bruno or Mount on the wing. I suspect we will see it on occasion but if we do end up doing that, I think it'll be more about trying to shoehorn both Fernandes and Mount into the same team rather than doing what is most effective for the team.
I've got no real appetite to see the likes of Bruno or Mount on the wing. I suspect we will see it on occasion but if we do end up doing that, I think it'll be more about trying to shoehorn both Fernandes and Mount into the same team rather than doing what is most effective for the team.
Still got to give Antony time to play into some form.
One issue with our RWs is that you can knock them off the ball very easily. None of them have that stubborn upper body strength on the ball that allows them to ride pressure. Even someone like a Shaw has it - he’s hard to knock him off the ball. That’s why he’s comfortable making driving runs when required. Both Sancho (he’s shown signs of improvement) and Antony should have already trained hard on this facet as it would allow them to be more confidence in the final third.
I would stick with Antony and play Rashford on the left and Sancho centrally as a false 9.
Don’t think they really care about a backlash. Reinstating Voldemort is not going to stop people going to matches, watching them on streaming and TV, or buying merchandise.
Pellistri and Sancho are the only wingers at the club that fit the profile of what I believe a winger should be.
A wide player should be creative first and foremost, the goals are a bonus. Whilst we as a club prioritise high scoring, selfish individuals out of desperation for success and skip the basics of a football team. If Bruno Fernandes is creating more chances than our wide areas then we are a broken team. That’s why you’ll never see me talk about our lack of finishers because we create the majority of our chances from the wrong end of the pitch and it makes them less clear cut, harder to convert due to angling. They do look like sitters because we’re focused on the ball and not paying much attention to the recipients.
Sancho and Pellistri are the only two wide players we have that cross or lay off passes and that’s primary for me in every wide player. Half the chances created by Bruno should never be shot but lay as an assist for someone else to score. Wonder why we miss so many because they were not assists pass in the first place.
A wide player should be creative first and foremost, the goals are a bonus. Whilst we as a club prioritise high scoring, selfish individuals out of desperation for success and skip the basics of a football team. If Bruno Fernandes is creating more chances than our wide areas then we are a broken team. That’s why you’ll never see me talk about our lack of finishers because we create the majority of our chances from the wrong end of the pitch and it makes them less clear cut, harder to convert due to angling. They do look like sitters because we’re focused on the ball and not paying much attention to the recipients.
Sancho and Pellistri are the only two wide players we have that cross or lay off passes and that’s primary for me in every wide player. Half the chances created by Bruno should never be shot but lay as an assist for someone else to score. Wonder why we miss so many because they were not assists pass in the first place.
Right wingers should be able to deliver a ball off their right foot, left wingers with their left foot. Added bonus if they can use their weaker foot as well. If you arent able to deliver a decent cross with your right foot while on the right wing then you better be as good on your left foot as Maradona and Messi are otherwise you are a waste of space.
Antony is a waste of space, attacks slow down while he tries to engineer opportunities to use his left foot.
Anybody who can cross with their right foot rather than Antony will do for me for now.
Antony is a waste of space, attacks slow down while he tries to engineer opportunities to use his left foot.
Anybody who can cross with their right foot rather than Antony will do for me for now.
Did you wake up after a 25 year long nap? Left foot on the left and right foot on the right? Name me one big succesfull team that does that in current world football?
I know right? I was wondering what the hell he was on about as inverted-wingers have been around for years.
But to be fair Barcelona last season did use that set up for a while with the left-footed Raphinha on the left-wing and the two-footed Dembele on the right-wing.
I guess they did this to get the most out of the aerially-dominant Lewandowski by banging in crosses from either side for him.
Not sure how they've set up this season though...
He's had a year. Like many of our players, he's too inconsistent. Pellistri should start next match.
Sancho or Pellistri.
Rashford should start on LW regardless of injuries.
Rashford should start on LW regardless of injuries.
I don't think Sancho was ever given as much time as Antony to get into the groove in one position. He gets shifted all the time. He has mostly himself to blame, but I'd say it's worth to give him a shot.
Anyone but Antony is fine by me
I think Antony does look for the pass often, but he's only got Rashford with him who's absolute dogshite at CF. I think Hojlund up top will benefit Antony massively but until then Sancho might be the better pick. Agree with Sancho being better in link up play as well.
Prime Nani would probably be the best player at the club, let alone winger.
It's fashionable to play one footed players on their off wing so they can cut in and shot. It not been about quality crosses for quite some time. Why would academies train players to be effective with both feet? (heavy sarcasm).
Now Greenwood is not an option. I hope the club buys a good right winger or else with One footed Nani (Antony) without form as RW, the team will struggle to attack this season.
I posted this on the other channel. There are very few top quality right wingers on the market. Even if money was no object, who should we go for?
We ain’t buying anyone
I feel Antony is just some better decision making away from being a real impact.
He wasn't great against spurs, but lets not forget he had a shot hit the post. If that had gone in it would have been a different story. That and if the refs weren't bent wankers.
Stick with him and hope it clicks at some point.
He wasn't great against spurs, but lets not forget he had a shot hit the post. If that had gone in it would have been a different story. That and if the refs weren't bent wankers.
Stick with him and hope it clicks at some point.
Our best RW has been hounded out