Who is your preferred next owner of Manchester United?

I was adamantly against the Qatar bid if it was a state funded bid. However - it seems to be from an individual and their own private wealth and the individual just happens to be from Qatar, i’m not saying he won’t have links to the state and we have to be careful and above all I want the club to be a welcoming place for all supporters. But If their statement is to be believed and they are genuinely a long time supporter of the club (and judging from pics of him in our kit on social media, he is.) then I like the sound of this bid. But other than that I would like Ratcliffe, though we don’t know who the potential others are yet either

Where’s this photo?
 
But the real question should be, can he or his son play forward? We will surely get some family players in the squad.
 
Since its all hypothetical, why dont they add a fans bid? Not that it happen anyway.

It’s not “all hypothetical” though, is it?
The club is being sold. So why would you add in something that isn’t even an option?
 
My preferred owner? Jeff Bezos.

But between a debt free Qatar approach or Ratcliffe/Goldman Sachs? Il go for Qatar unless Sir Jim comes out with a very compelling vision for the club.

I just don't buy that Ineos will take all the debt, invest heavily on and off the field at united and take no money out of the club to fund the debt payments
 
It’s not “all hypothetical” though, is it?
The club is being sold. So why would you add in something that isn’t even an option?

Is Bezos an option? There were some press links but i haven't read anything that pointed that Bezos wanted to actually bid. Similar with Musk. A random joke tweet and he is suddenly considered an option? Though, I may have missed some credible speculation.

Edit: they have also included an option of "other investor" which is completely hypothetical and vague.
 
I don’t care, we have always been successful because of football success not because of external money. Lir success means something
We haven't been successful for nearly a decade, and we have been even a laughing stock in football world in recent years. We only started to improve with ETH, but with signings like Weghorst or Sabitzer we won't get to the level of City, Real Madrid, PSG anytime soon, we will be only fighting for top 4 spots or domestic/2nd rated cup.
 
Is Bezos an option? There were some press links but i haven't read anything that pointed that Bezos wanted to actually bid. Similar with Musk. A random joke tweet and he is suddenly considered an option? Though, I may have missed some credible speculation.

Edit: they have also included an option of "other investor" which is completely hypothetical and vague.

They were just covering real people/entities that have the money
 
Qatar.

I think in this era of football money is money, it’s a lovely sentiment to take the high road in terms of where that money is coming from. But the sheer amount of it being thrown around these days, it’s either a giant loan bringing debt or it’s got blood on it. No one is going to buy something for 5.5 billion and it be clean.

For the future of United and the promise in progressing the facilities and the structure…it pains me but it has to be Qatar.
 
Literally they’re all cnuts, there is no moral high ground to be had. My preferred owner would be a fan ownership model similar to other European giants, but that is literally impossible.

In lieu of that, the Qataris seem to be able to actually wipe the debt out and drag us into the 21st century. Ratcliffe is the brexit supporting tory favourite of the telegraph, his ownership of Nice doesn’t seem to be anything special and he’ll probably come out as a Liverpool fan once he fails to buy United. Ipso facto, feck him - green and gold protests back in a year under him.
 
Well, to answer the thread question;

That Musk fella seems to have money to burn, so he might be good, I was gonna say yer man Ratty, but I just noticed a post saying he is a Chelsea fan so not so sure on him anymore.
 
As we’re mired in fantasy….

Mackenzie Scott please. Wouldn't even mind a statue outside the new stadium flipping the bird at Jeff.
 
Thing is, this is not the same as Manchester City. We are not a club languishing in the depths of obscurity. Being lifted out of the gutter, and having 2bn quid thrown at them just to make them relevant, after 4 decades of not competing. We've just played at the Nou Camp, infront of the largest ever crowd for an EFL game. We are still in four competitions, with a cup final next weekend.

We are still the largest supported club in the world, and the most successful club in the United Kingdom. We still achieve enormous sponsorship deals through our name alone, and not because our owner's brother has an airline.

We can stand on our own feet in the current climate, without an owner taking 1.5bn out of the club in dividends. That money could have been used to build a new stadium, but unfortunately it went toward Glazer debt.

So now we are in a situation where we need someone to invest in these things, because we don't have the cash reserves to do it ourselves. I think I would be happy to accept anyone with a plan to bring us up to the required standards. After that, we should go back to being self sufficient with a little bit of help here and there.
 
I don't want to be owned by the Qataris but if it's that or Brexit pirate Jim Ratcliffe and that bloody lunatic Dave Brailsford (living in a caravan by Nice's training ground or something?) then it's a no brainer.
 
We haven't been successful for nearly a decade, and we have been even a laughing stock in football world in recent years. We only started to improve with ETH, but with signings like Weghorst or Sabitzer we won't get to the level of City, Real Madrid, PSG anytime soon, we will be only fighting for top 4 spots or domestic/2nd rated cup.
The weghorst/sabitzer deals are temporary no? We can’t go out and buy a Bellingham in January! We aim for top players in the summer
 
@Damien is it possible to get some of the options listed as a poll? Sir Jim Radcliffe/INEOS, Qatar, Saudi, China, Elon Musk, US private equity firms, etc.
It's weird we don't have a poll no?
Probably best to wait until all the bidders have been announced.

I'll put the poll up when we know for sure who the initial bidders are. Half of the ones mentioned aren't going to bid (Musk for example)
 
I disagree. Without Qatar money backing, we won't be able to outbid the likes of City, Real, PSG, Chelsea to sign the likes of Mbappe, Haaland, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Enzo, Felix during recent years. We are now in the era to compete with those mega rich clubs with crazy spending on the best young players in the game, having to rely heavily on loanees like Weghorst or Sabitzer instead just won't be enough.

Most of the players you mention as being unable to compete for went to clubs they wanted to play for, rather than whoever was just the highest bidder. The only ones on your list who we could possible have gotten even with Qatari cash were Enzo and Felix. And I’m not sure either of them would be sensible purchases for us or, a good fit for what we need.
 
Qatar,

Mainly because i believe they actually have a vision for the club, the facilities, the area itself. They will regenerate the area not only the club. I also think the concerns they people have with how PSG are run will be laid to rest, even they know they've not been running the club right and have indicated a change "no more flashy bling bling" was what was said in the summer.

With Ineos, i don't see the stadium being redeveloped or rebuilt, i don't see much investment into Manchester itself. The whole thing "lets put Manchester back in Manchester" reads like the a brexit slogan that Ratcliffe desperatly supported, till he and his company ran off to their tax havens.
 
Ratcliffe out before he's even in. US consortium would show more ambition. Qatar have made all the right noises. I can understand questioning the off-field practices but INEOS statements leave nothing to be desired on-field.
 
I was adamantly against the Qatar bid if it was a state funded bid. However - it seems to be from an individual and their own private wealth and the individual just happens to be from Qatar, i’m not saying he won’t have links to the state and we have to be careful and above all I want the club to be a welcoming place for all supporters. But If their statement is to be believed and they are genuinely a long time supporter of the club (and judging from pics of him in our kit on social media, he is.) then I like the sound of this bid. But other than that I would like Ratcliffe, though we don’t know who the potential others are yet either
His net worth is ‘just’ 1-1.5B, but he is bidding 5B or so. He obviously is a front man for the state of Qatar, and just a way of getting around the rules of owning both United and PSG.
 
In contradiction of The Athletic's poll.

UnitedPeoplesTV ran a poll this morning on several platforms, YouTube, insta, and a couple of others.

The choices were Jim or the Qatar bid, around 15k votes, and 80% in favour of Qatar.
 
Jim, just because I think Qatar owners will interfere with football things and undermine manager just to buy fancy new toys for the sake of it. Feck that.
 
Not Qatar or anyone else that will use us as their plaything

We're on track to to that anyway despite having the fecking glazers in charge. We don't need a sugar daddy. Just someone who puts the right people in place and leaves ten hag do what he is doing.

Last thing we need is someone coming in and buying loads of big name players we don't need (and ten hag doesnt want) because they want to have shiny new toys to show off. It will happen. It's the only reason Qatar want to buy us. Big name players to act as ambassadors for Qatar.

No we aren't, and it has nothing to do with a sugar daddy. Not to mention go look at PSG's transfer history, it's hardly them just buying big names for the feck of it.

We are in a shiteload of debt as well as needing huge investments into the infrastructure of the club. You do realize we are basically broke under the Glazers now right?
 
Anyone but Elliot or another US hedgefund of similar ilk. Qatar would be by far the best for us as an organisation, city and football team. SJR would still be better than the Glazers and the debt that Ineos would incur to buy us would not affect the performance of the club - only Ineos would be liable for that debt. Still, SJR could not afford the kind of big infrastructure plans that Qatar are indicating through Mike Keegan.
 
Set up a poll and be done with it. As far as I know only two bids have been submitted yesterday: Rattcliffe and Qatar.
 
No we aren't, and it has nothing to do with a sugar daddy. Not to mention go look at PSG's transfer history, it's hardly them just buying big names for the feck of it.

We are in a shiteload of debt as well as needing huge investments into the infrastructure of the club. You do realize we are basically broke under the Glazers now right?

Remove the Glazers and allow the club to spend what it makes is all we need (and all we can do thanks to FFP) and Ten Hag will have enough support to take us back to the top.

Don't need ME money. Don't need owners buying shiny new toys we don't need to show off too the world.
 
We are Manchester United. The biggest club of the biggest league in the world. Historically the richest one. Best of the best. Crem de la crem. We deserve the best owners in the world. The owners who can make us a Leviathan again.

Qatar any day
 
Reluctantly Al Thani/Qatar as they are the only serious bidder so far who can provide the level of investment required. In an ideal world I would have loved Amazon or Apple to buy us but that was a pipe dream sadly.
 
We are Manchester United. The biggest club of the biggest league in the world. Historically the richest one. Best of the best. Crem de la crem. We deserve the best owners in the world. The owners who can make us a Leviathan again.

Qatar any day
Worked out great for PSG right? Great team with multiple CL wins. Yeah Katar can do the same for us.
 
Any reason why the Redcafe mods don’t want to show the majority of us want Qatar over Radcliffe? Or are we doing up Athletic propaganda? :lol:
 
Remove the Glazers and allow the club to spend what it makes is all we need (and all we can do thanks to FFP) and Ten Hag will have enough support to take us back to the top.

Don't need ME money. Don't need owners buying shiny new toys we don't need to show off too the world.

I agree, except we also need the new owners to spend about 1B in infrastructure/stadium upgrades as well. Why the feck do you all think ME owners will all of the sudden do that when history tells us that's not how they've operated other clubs? It's like you lot are just making it up because you don't want ME owners, not because you have actual footballing reasons
 
Of the publicly declared bids, Qatar.