We don’t have the budget for an expensive signing unfortunately even if Qatar buy us then FFP means we’ll be restricted! I think that could be the reason behind trying to keep DDG for one more season! Costa should be our number one choice if money is no object for us
Which new goalkeeper would you want to sign?
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De Gea hasn't been remotely close to being the best shot stopper in the world for five years now (barring a few months last season where he wound the clock back briefly). I honestly don't know how anyone can have watched him when he was truly elite at that and not see how unbelievably far off that level he now is. He makes the occasional great save still (nowhere near as many as some make out) but also lets in plenty of goals that any good shot-stopper is expected to save. Overall he's spent almost the entire last half a decade being decidedly average at the one thing he was once great at.
Aye. It would probably be more accurate to say the next goalkeeper will almost certainly be a less gifted shotstopper rather than a worse one.
De Gea still has a greater capacity for high end saves than most, it's just undermined by errors big (like yesterday) and small (goals where he isn't quite to blame but could have done better).
Dunno if we’re gonna get a top keeper for next season, as we desperately need a ST and I think that takes most of our budget. 70m plus will be spent on a ST.
Been saying this for so long - with quite a lot of people here throwing abuse at me for it. Lots of people were up in arms about anyone potentially being a "Ronaldo fanboy" but you weren't allowed to say a word about the supposed "greatest shotstopper in the world" when shot-stopping stopped being the only credential for a keeper more than 25 years ago.
De Gea hasn't been remotely close to being the best shot stopper in the world for five years now (barring a few months last season where he wound the clock back briefly). I honestly don't know how anyone can have watched him when he was truly elite at that and not see how unbelievably far off that level he now is. He makes the occasional great save still (nowhere near as many as some make out) but also lets in plenty of goals that any good shot-stopper is expected to save. Overall he's spent almost the entire last half a decade being decidedly average at the one thing he was once great at.
Said if before, will say it again: good (let alone great) keepers dominate their penalty area - DDG doesn't even dominate the six-yard box
Butland is better than DDG... and he'll be drawing his pension soon!
Most of our back ups have been better than DDG but never start. People like Romero and Valdes was a lot more reliable.
Costa is the best available keeper but I am pretty confident we extend the contract with DDG so it is pointless. We are not gonna buy a starting keeper anytime soon, end of story
Yes, that's a very good way of putting it.
Nah, his ability to produce ridiculous saves is still up there. People are just factoring in some of the mistakes he is making.
De Gea hasn't been remotely close to being the best shot stopper in the world for five years now (barring a few months last season where he wound the clock back briefly). I honestly don't know how anyone can have watched him when he was truly elite at that and not see how unbelievably far off that level he now is. He makes the occasional great save still (nowhere near as many as some make out) but also lets in plenty of goals that any good shot-stopper is expected to save. Overall he's spent almost the entire last half a decade being decidedly average at the one thing he was once great at.
Even a goalkeeper who can actually compete with De Gea would be something.
Exactly my point.
But you'd take a player such as Ederson who is a weak shot stopper than DDG but is a 9-10/10 in all the other attributes a modern keeper needs.
Romero was way more than just reliable - he was a really good keeper. Not VDS or Peter S standard but still very good. Solid and could control the back four and dominate his area. DDG can't - and never has, for me - done these things
If it's true that we have £100m to spend and nothing more without sales then we might need to look at alternatives who would be very cheap but do the job.
Striker will be the main position we need to buy this summer and even with sales we'll struggle to get one because many other clubs seem to be after a top striker and prices are through the roof. I don't imagine we'll get much for the dross we will be looking to sell either.
It might be an idea to sign DDG to a new contract and get a cheap keeper who might come good and has some of the qualities we need as backup in the hope that he can step up and displace De Gea.
Striker will be the main position we need to buy this summer and even with sales we'll struggle to get one because many other clubs seem to be after a top striker and prices are through the roof. I don't imagine we'll get much for the dross we will be looking to sell either.
It might be an idea to sign DDG to a new contract and get a cheap keeper who might come good and has some of the qualities we need as backup in the hope that he can step up and displace De Gea.
Diogo Costa is the one. Could see him having a transformative impact on this team similar to what Allison and Ederson had on theirs.
Those mistakes and other soft goals he concedes have to be factored in. If you're saving 8 goals a season extra with some great saves that most keepers won't make, but you are also conceding 8 goals extra a season because of mistakes or simply soft goals then you aren't a great shot stopper anymore. It averages out to being simply average. An average keeper who makes less fantastic saves but also concedes less soft goals will ultimately concede about the same. I'm talking purely shot-stopping mistakes, not even taking into account all of De Gea's weaknesses which result in him often facing more shots than he should be.
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Costa but he will be expensive should be available though.
Raya should also be available for much cheaper if the money is an issue for Costa.
Don't think Maingan is a realistic target, maybe if money was no object whatsoever then yes.
If all else fails Henderson should come back in as No1. Hopefully we don't end up in that situation but it would be better than De Gea starting as No1 next season.
Raya should also be available for much cheaper if the money is an issue for Costa.
Don't think Maingan is a realistic target, maybe if money was no object whatsoever then yes.
If all else fails Henderson should come back in as No1. Hopefully we don't end up in that situation but it would be better than De Gea starting as No1 next season.
With Ddg it's not the mistakes, it's the fecking 10 minutes it takes him to distribute the ball and the inability to dominate the area.
However, we do not have the money to splash 50-60 mil on a keeper, so DDG it is.
However, we do not have the money to splash 50-60 mil on a keeper, so DDG it is.
Have to be allowed to compete in the first place. If sat on the bench all the time that isn't competing.
I agree but we just don't have the budget. Maybe if we sell like there's no tomorrow. We need to make top 4 at first.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Jan Oblak
I don't know if Milan will want to part with Maignan, but if there's even a small possibility of getting him, we need to go all in. He's going to only get better and he seems like a very level headed fella too, someone who will most likely be on the top of their game for a very long time to come. Will most likely be France's #1 in the upcoming tournaments.
Physically commanding? Meslier?! Surely not.
Anyway, he's a terrible, terrible goalkeeper and we need to steer well clear
Literally anyone don’t care. Would all be an upgrade.
I honestly think I'd take Dean Henderson in goal if it means De Gea leaves, the bar is so low now. I can't bring myself to watch United again next season if that clown is still in goal.
We have a young guy Vitek who could play. He should be brought up to first team.
Glad to see some mentions of Meslier, Pickford and Henderson. Needed some light comic relief after yesterday's shitshow.
I would guess national teams may choose a little different. Maguire keeps someone out of a spot in England to
Maignan got injured just before the World Cup unfortunately. Not sure if we would have started ahead of Lloris, as this was his last tournament / games for France. He’s now their no.1 though.
Maignan would be my preferred option if it became a possibility, he just seems so rounded, commanding and such a leader.
If not then it has to be Costa if we are willing to spend £60m. 1st class ball player and still young.
If budget is a little tighter, Raya is a no brainer.
If we keep De Gea but want a proper challenger I would consider Brice Samba as a more experienced cheap option from Lens.
Or if we go young, Marco Carnesecchi (22) looks very promising and already very well rounded as a keeper.
Also has the PL experience.
With Porto supposedly needing the money we should be able to get Costa for a decent price. Should be a no brainer. A top class keeper and a top class striker are the biggest leaps in quality we can make and should be where the majority of our funds go. Then spend the rest on a decent midfielder who likes to receive the ball and tick things over.
And counts as a homegrown player, for whatever that's worth.
He doesn't though... do you watch any other top goalkeepers around the world? You can point to many that make just as great saves as Dave does these days, it's not something unique to him
Maignan is too erratic for me. I would like Costa with DDG as no.2 if funds allow, otherwise DDG and Livakovic competing for game time.
Please no going by assessment of posters of Livakovic , it would be blind leading the blind .
Are we talking about a De Gea replacement or a De Gea No2 ?
The Georgian guy. Can never get his name right.
Surely at this point we are signing a No.1 knowing we have decent back up in David if the new guy doesn’t work out.
I ask because reportedly ETH wants to stick with De Gea.
I think what he says publicly may be different from in private with the player. We still have games left of this season and he isn’t going to destroy team morale like that.
Diogo Costa if we have the budget. Raya if not. Maignan ideal but not realistic.
This has to be a troll, or you’ve not watched him for the past two years.