Which midfielder will we sign this summer?

Was this a :lol: post?

You can't rule them out on the strength of your never having seen them play. I'm not stating that we'll sign these three midfielders; just that imo they'd be good editions to the squad who're both available and relatively inexpensive. I don't see how it matters whether we've been "linked' with them or not; do you think SAF limits his options to players the tabloids have written stories about?

I didn't know if you were taking the piss or were serious. Anyway, I think that it is time to get a midfielder which will instantly improve us (like Moutinho or Modric), not a talent that can be good. It's good to bring on young players, but the time has come to have someone really good there.
 
Yeah, at odds with the thread title, one midfielder isn't going to be enough. Scholes will retire, Anderson is on his way and Fletcher may never come back; we've been very lucky with Carrick staying fit all season this term. We're gonna need minimum two CM players, but ideally three imo; quite a shake-up if it happens, though looking at our transfer dealings over these past five years, joking aside, one seriously has to wonder if we'll replace any midfield personal at all. The odd thing for me is that there's always seemed to be a wealth of appropriate talent available each year; our current options seem so incompatible as to render at least 10% of the central midfielders in professional football as viable upgrades to an extent. I think SAF needs to stop worrying about finding the perfect CM (let's be honest, he hasn't got a good track record here, it's the one area of the pitch that one might reasonably call his weakness) and just buy a couple of bloody good CM's and put them on the job.

Carrick is class.
Cleverley is a good midfielder.
Powell is young and promising.
Jones is a defensive midfielder.
Giggs still has time left.
Tunnicliffe could yet become next Keane.
Januzaj will need games.
Petrucci will come back from loan.

No need to buy.
 
Carrick is class.
Cleverley is a good midfielder.
Powell is young and promising.
Jones is a defensive midfielder.
Giggs still has time left.
Tunnicliffe could yet become next Keane.
Januzaj will need games.
Petrucci will come back from loan.

No need to buy.
You would actually be happy going into a season with that group as our only midfielder? 3 youngsters, Giggs can play a role in games, but we can't rely on him for games twice a week. That basically leaves you with Cleverley, Jones and Carrick that will need to play most games.

Couple of injuries and we would be stuffed.
 
Liam Bridcutt, tenacious hard tackling Scottish international. Twenty three years old, intelligent, fantastic temperament & still improving. The next Roy Keane I tells you! Snap him up Fergie!!
 
You would actually be happy going into a season with that group as our only midfielder? 3 youngsters, Giggs can play a role in games, but we can't rely on him for games twice a week. That basically leaves you with Cleverley, Jones and Carrick that will need to play most games.

Couple of injuries and we would be stuffed.

:lol:

I don't think he's being serious.

With the title wrapped up, I hope we will do our business quickly.
 
Carrick is class.
Cleverley is a good midfielder.
Powell is young and promising.
Jones is a defensive midfielder.
Giggs still has time left.
Tunnicliffe could yet become next Keane.
Januzaj will need games.
Petrucci will come back from loan.

No need to buy.

Tunnicliffe will never make it here IMO. Sure he runs around and fouls alot, but his technique is severely lacking and looks a bit lost our there sometimes.

He may well develop massively in the next few years, but i don't see him having a chance with us. He reminds me a bit of Dave Jones that ended up at Wolves.
 
Carrick is class.
Cleverley is a good midfielder.
Powell is young and promising.
Jones is a defensive midfielder.
Giggs still has time left.
Tunnicliffe could yet become next Keane.
Januzaj will need games.
Petrucci will come back from loan.

No need to buy.

Ho come on you cant be serious can you? take away Powell,Tunnicliffe, Januzaj and Petrucci none of them are ready for the first team yet. Giggs cant play every week and I think its a waste playing Jones in central midfield his long term position will be at centre back. We need a midfielder no doubt about that.
 
of course he's not serious, there's only one person on this forum who would make a post like that in a serious manner.
 
All this talk of a central midfielder again then, my question is, who do we buy?

There are a lot of names being thrown around, many of whom aren't available, aren't good enough, aren't proven or are young players with potential - the very thing we keep saying we don't want to see anymore!

It's a real tough one, because there is no true standout candidate, who is a realistic option and would truly improve what we already have. I agree that central midfield is probably our weakest point given the reliance on Carrick, but I just don't know who we should bring in.
 
of course he's not serious, there's only one person on this forum who would make a post like that in a serious manner.

Only when I have my crystals out and I'm channeling the mind of Sir Alex thround the medium of Mike Phelan.
 
All this talk of a central midfielder again then, my question is, who do we buy?

There are a lot of names being thrown around, many of whom aren't available, aren't good enough, aren't proven or are young players with potential - the very thing we keep saying we don't want to see anymore!

It's a real tough one, because there is no true standout candidate, who is a realistic option and would truly improve what we already have. I agree that central midfield is probably our weakest point given the reliance on Carrick, but I just don't know who we should bring in.

We have one of the biggest scouting networks in the world. Even if we can't feasibly go for a Gundogan or Moutinho, I'm sure there are players like Hernandez, Vidic, Smalling etc hidden away somewhere. I refuse to believe that the club can't find any feasible targets out there.
 
All this talk of a central midfielder again then, my question is, who do we buy?

There are a lot of names being thrown around, many of whom aren't available, aren't good enough, aren't proven or are young players with potential - the very thing we keep saying we don't want to see anymore!

It's a real tough one, because there is no true standout candidate, who is a realistic option and would truly improve what we already have. I agree that central midfield is probably our weakest point given the reliance on Carrick, but I just don't know who we should bring in.

I'm fecking well glad you're not on our scouting staff :rolleyes:
 
We have one of the biggest scouting networks in the world. Even if we can't feasibly go for a Gundogan or Moutinho, I'm sure there are players like Hernandez, Vidic, Smalling etc hidden away somewhere. I refuse to believe that the club can't find any feasible targets out there.

And yet we still haven't bought anyone for 6 years (only 1 if you accept that Powell will be a central midfielder). So either in that 6 years we haven't found any players, or Fergie doesn't see the need for them. If he didn't then, even when we were playing Smith and O'Shea there, why would he now?

Perhaps there really aren't the players that would fit our system available that would improve the team.
 
And yet we still haven't bought anyone for 6 years (only 1 if you accept that Powell will be a central midfielder). So either in that 6 years we haven't found any players, or Fergie doesn't see the need for them. If he didn't then, even when we were playing Smith and O'Shea there, why would he now?

Perhaps there really aren't the players that would fit our system available that would improve the team.

Are we pretending that we didn't just lose two outstanding CM prospects again? Why is this never considered before people pipe up about us not signing a midfielder? It's as though people bask in the misery of us not signing midfielders when the reason why is right under their nose.
 
And yet we still haven't bought anyone for 6 years (only 1 if you accept that Powell will be a central midfielder). So either in that 6 years we haven't found any players, or Fergie doesn't see the need for them. If he didn't then, even when we were playing Smith and O'Shea there, why would he now?

Perhaps there really aren't the players that would fit our system available that would improve the team.

I think it's more so that he has a dreadful past record of buying midfielders and would rather milk of Carrick, Giggs, Scholes etc as much as he can before going into the market again.
 
I think it's more so that he has a dreadful past record of buying midfielders and would rather milk of Carrick, Giggs, Scholes etc as much as he can before going into the market again.

Or he trusts the players he has. I don't see why it couldn't be that.

Are we pretending that we didn't just lose two outstanding CM prospects again? Why is this never considered before people pipe up about us not signing a midfielder? It's as though people bask in the misery of us not signing midfielders when the reason why is right under their nose.

Far from basking in the misery, I would love to see us bring in the sort of player that would allow us to dominate again. I just don't see the players around that fill that brief... or they are already at top clubs.

Also, we had either lost, or knew we were about to lose both of those two players by the start of last summer and still bought no central midfielder (barring another top prospect). This lends itself to the theory that we are waiting for a certain profile of player and haven't found one yet. Hence my assertion on the previous page that we'll go young and British if we do get a medfielder and try to mold them into the profile we want.
 
Sure, we're a desirable destination but all of the players being bandied about are under contract. We can't just waltz in, demand that the clubs sell us the players, and waltz back to Manchester with one of the top players in the world. It always amazes me that some of our fans seem to think that there are no other desirable destinations in world football outside of Manchester.

90% of the players being mentioned in this thread are either already at a top club or are at least playing in the champions league. They are under contract and are probably earning bloody good money. Why would they leave? Why would the clubs allow them to leave? Unless they are about to enter the final year of their contract (or are over 28) they have very little power to demand a release from the current club.

Equally Fergie has always always preferred premiership proven players. They then require considerably less adjustment time and are much more able to deal with the spotlight that comes with becoming a Manchester United player.

Some of the players that I talked about, Hughes, Williams, Chalobah, are probably up there with the most talented young British players around that may become available this summer. I'd be bloody surprised if we weren't involved if they did become available. The likes of Schneiderlin I mentioned as he has always been talented and has this year done a bloody good job in an under-performing side. Sound like Valencia to you?

If, as expected, Scholes retires, then we may even see another veteran brought in to replace the experience that we would lose, so I could definitely see Lampard being brought in on a free transfer. It would be classic Fergie. Free transfer, relatively high wages for a year or two but bundles of experience and trophies. Plus he counts towards home grown for premiership and Europe on the squad limits.

We will also see Powell more next year, and maybe Januzaj (although I'm not sure he can play as a centre mid). We might have even have seen Petrucci if his injury curse hadn't struck again. I would also be hugely shocked if he didn't do the "Fletcher will be a new signing" thing. Loyalty is one of Fergie's key attributes. He gives it and demands it in return. Why shouldn't Fletcher get back to his best?

Everything we are hearing on the gossip front is about wingers, central defenders and goalkeepers. That's where I would expect the money to be spent again this summer.

There are plenty of players under contract that get sold if the price is right, there are big clubs and then there are clubs like United, Real and Barca that do have a special history and aura to them. Also financially ours is the most popular league in the world so for a player coming to play in the PL for Man Utd the chances to substantially upgrade their own profile and get bigger endorsement deals are high.

These players your are mentioning are way off being proven good enough, and other than the guy from Southampton the others would merely be reserves next season. As for the guy from Southampton, he's a solid player but nothing more, he wont improve us he'll just add depth to a PL squad, if the CL is the goal we need a player that is more than solid.

As for us being linked more with wingers, strikers and defenders, we all know most of these stories are bullshit but it wouldn't surprise me if the papers simply see them as more plausible bullshit than us going for a CM due to SAF's recent blind spot hen it comes to that position, however more often than not Fergie pulls surprises on the media and this may well be the summer of the CM.
 
Can we talk about Fellaini again? I still think he'd be excellent for us.
 
Fellaini is a seriously limited and over rated midfielder

We need class not numbers
 
There are plenty of players under contract that get sold if the price is right, there are big clubs and then there are clubs like United, Real and Barca that do have a special history and aura to them. Also financially ours is the most popular league in the world so for a player coming to play in the PL for Man Utd the chances to substantially upgrade their own profile and get bigger endorsement deals are high.

These players your are mentioning are way off being proven good enough, and other than the guy from Southampton the others would merely be reserves next season. As for the guy from Southampton, he's a solid player but nothing more, he wont improve us he'll just add depth to a PL squad, if the CL is the goal we need a player that is more than solid.

As for us being linked more with wingers, strikers and defenders, we all know most of these stories are bullshit but it wouldn't surprise me if the papers simply see them as more plausible bullshit than us going for a CM due to SAF's recent blind spot hen it comes to that position, however more often than not Fergie pulls surprises on the media and this may well be the summer of the CM.

Sure, he does pull off surprise signings from time to time. But a blind spot that lasts 6/7 years? Really?

I honestly believe he thinks the first team options are good enough and will either buy for the future, or will bring in experienced cover, such as Lampard, while he waits for the right player or for a player to come through from the academy.

Me, I would love to see us go all out to buy the worlds best, but I don't think the other top clubs are selling. When was the last time we bullied Barca, or Real, or Juve into selling one of their players? Doesn't happen. They nick our senoir players, but we don't do it to them (although you could make a case for Hargreaves). And I will repeat myself again... Fergie definitely prefers premiership proven, and preferably English for squad limit purposes if he is spending big money, and unless Arsenal decide to sell Wilshere (and we'd not have a lot of hope in that auction) I cannot see a great centre mid player that fits that brief.

I think there are good players in the league that would be better, in a better team. The lad at West Ham, Diame, could be a cracking player. Schneiderlin really shouldn't be under-rated and plays in a midfield two. We've done it before in taking players and making them better. Why shouldn't we do it again?

And whats wrong with getting the very exciting prospects that are out there, such as Will Hughes? Say we bought him and took Lampard for experienced cover as Scholes retires. With Hughes and Powell getting minutes from time to time, and Lampard playing the Scholes role for a couple of years, would it be such a bad thing? We all know Fergie takes a long view, so why not try to solve an immediate need with an experienced player, and then build for the future.

All this call for Modric, or Vidal, or Strootman is un-realistic in my view as we have either missed or passed up on that boat, or the player is unproven and could potentially be a flop in a vital position. There is a reason why we let players go for cheap fees and then pay exhorbitant ones a year or two later. They are proven in the league then. So we didn't pay £3.5m for Carrick when Tottenham got him, we paid £18m. We didn't pay £6m or whatever it was for Berbatov, we paid £32m. This is why we are unlikely to go for Wanyama or Strootman until another club has bought them first. We're not afraid of spending the money... we are afraid of spending the money on the wrong players... the ones that can't handle it.

Anyway, I could well be proven wrong, and I'd love to have someone bring this diatribe up in a couple of months time and say "Look, we've bought Fellaini" or whoever, and "you were so wrong". I think we need centre midfield players as well, but I don't see us buying from either a top club, cos we don't do that, or a muppet name. I think it'll be a young player and maybe a Lampard.
 
I think the trick has to be buying a midfielder for a good wedge in the mould of Moutinho/Strootman then we buy a younger lesser known player on the cheap from south america or Europe who looks like he could possibly make the step up. You'd imagine one of the two would work out and would give us an extra option.

It's something we really have to address though because in a year or two Carrick wont be able to start every game and we'll be having to buy two brand new starting CMs (or more likely playing Jones and Smalling in CM)
 
Who is actually going to be available?

Most of the top European teams won't sell, and if they did it would be for £25 million + which I don't think you would be willing to pay.

Wanyama would be available for 10-15 million I'd estimate.
Strootman, I haven't seen much of but since he's from the Dutch league he wouldn't cost that much.
Moutinho would most likely be available if the reports about Porto being in trouble are true.
Fellaini, would be available if we fail to finish in a European spot, but we would most likely ask for £20-30 million.
 
I think we would happily pay up to 40m if it was for the right player. We're not short of money especially after a very successful float and with the sky money coming in. We also have a deep squad, so just need some extra quality in a key position or two, which tends to be when the big money is spent.... But only if the right player is available. That is a problem, as you say.
 
I meant for a CM. I don't think there is any CM that SAF would find £40 million worth it, discluding those close to Xavi and Iniesta, of which neither would be available.
Correct me if I am wrong but it's rare for a CM to go for £30 million and above.
 
I suppose Thiago is the other name that keeps seeming to pop up because he wants a chance to go the WC. However its highly likely Barca would only want to sell him with a buy back clause which is something I can't see United agreeing too so he'll either have to go out on loan or burn his bridges with them.
 
I meant for a CM. I don't think there is any CM that SAF would find £40 million worth it, discluding those close to Xavi and Iniesta, of which neither would be available.
Correct me if I am wrong but it's rare for a CM to go for £30 million and above.

Of course. I just mean, hypothetically, if a Fabregas, say, were available, and priced at 35m, I think we would pay it.
 
All this talk of a central midfielder again then, my question is, who do we buy?

There are a lot of names being thrown around, many of whom aren't available, aren't good enough, aren't proven or are young players with potential - the very thing we keep saying we don't want to see anymore!

It's a real tough one, because there is no true standout candidate, who is a realistic option and would truly improve what we already have. I agree that central midfield is probably our weakest point given the reliance on Carrick, but I just don't know who we should bring in.

This is insane.

One wonders how we managed to get the rest of our team. Or anyone ever gets any midfielders ever.
 
Do you think he's good enough? We've been linked to him for years without ever taking the plunge, which makes me think Fergie has other thoughts.

Dunno. Wasn't that fussed on him as a kid but Arruda seems to think he's an absolute gem and I really liked the defensive side to his game in the Euros. Knew he was very tidy technically but he's got that defensive nous that we've not yet seen from Cleverley. Plus he can run all day. Seems like he'll be on the move and there's been a fair few players that both us and Spurs have went head-to-head for so it seem semi-realistic. The downside is he'll cost a bomb but I reckon he seems like a safe bet to be a success.
 
Dunno. Wasn't that fussed on him as a kid but Arruda seems to think he's an absolute gem and I really liked the defensive side to his game in the Euros. Knew he was very tidy technically but he's got that defensive nous that we've not yet seen from Cleverley. Plus he can run all day. Seems like he'll be on the move and there's been a fair few players that both us and Spurs have went head-to-head for so it seem semi-realistic. The downside is he'll cost a bomb but I reckon he seems like a safe bet to be a success.

I doubt he'd cost all that much, would probably be around 20 million, which when you look at the prices we've paid for certain other players, isn't that much, especially considering how much we need a player of his ilk.
 
I doubt he'd cost all that much, would probably be around 20 million, which when you look at the prices we've paid for certain other players, isn't that much, especially considering how much we need a player of his ilk.

Porto wouldn't sell for 20m, they generally get massive fees for their players.
 
Porto wouldn't sell for 20m, they generally get massive fees for their players.

I think that he would be available for 25-30m considering that Porto are very good at selling their players. But considering our spending during the last two years, I think that we have enough money, we pay about 17m for Young and about the same for Zaha, so 25m for a top quality midfielder isn't that much in today's market, especially considering our need,
 
Don't see why people are saying "nobody is available." It's come to the stage where we're going to have to pay big money to fix the problem. Players like Gundogan, Fellaini, Vidal, Marchisio, Moutinho, Montolivo and Dembele are all signed on big contracts and if we're going to sign them then £20m+ is going to be needed.