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Which clubs are realistic buyers for Haaland next season?
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Where did you get that 50 mil Euros from? I mean seemingly Messi’s offered sign on bonus is 25 mil. Also Raiola works on a percentage of sale. That’s how he makes his money. His fee will probably be paid by Dortmund. This is why he tries to move on his clients so often as he isn’t paid a weekly wage as such and makes money off of the transfers instead. He’s always worked this way which is why we had issues when trying to sign Pogba as Juventus tried to shift that payment on to us which was 20 mil and we refused.
So really none of us know what the fees will be but I can’t see Mbappe or Haaland getting much more than 400k a week at max. So it comes down to could they handle that within their 70% of income salary cap. Last I saw they pretty much compete with us for biggest revenue so you would think they could handle it depending on the stadium revamp.
When have you ever known Pep to field two No9s or use a 2ST formation?
I’d be shocked if we didn’t go all out for Haaland. The ground work should be happening right now for that deal next summer.
I can’t see him wanting to stay in Germany, but I may be wrong. Dortmund should really put non Bayern rules in their release clauses.
Yeah if City get Kane and Chelsea get Lukaku, the only premier league option is us (United). I can't see Liverpool paying the astronomical wages it's going to take to sign him.
In europe:
In europe:
- Bayern is an obvious contender.
- Juve if old Ronnie leaves
- Madrid I suspect will either get him or Mbappe
- Barca. really it depends if they can get their finances in order. But I don't see them as a main contender.
Not sure why so many of you are ruling them out, Liverpool will be as hard after Haaland as everyone else.
Real will try to get both him and Mbappé. Mbappé will be a free agent, after all.
Real will try to get both him and Mbappé. Mbappé will be a free agent, after all.
A lot of people said this about Sancho last year yet they were never in the conversation. Big money superstars are not their thing especially with the wages Haaland would accumulate
Mbappe being a free agent is irrelevant his wages would be huge and Spain have a strict salary cap. Remains to be seen if Madrid can stay below it once they get Mbappe
Real will get him, Mbappe, Pogba and Goretzka next season.
Liverpool will not pay the £300k per week and agents fees that haaland will cost
Im normally quite skeptical but i think we've got this one lined up.
The wages wouldn’t be a issue for them at all, a complete myth they don’t pay big wages.
300k? His wage offer will be alot higher than that I feel.
PSG, Man Utd, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Juventus seem like the most likely candidates.
However, even Barcelona, Atletico, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Bayern, and Inter will meet the release clause IMO. It doesn't mean most of those clubs will even have a chance of signing him, but realistically why would you not meet the release clause and see if he somehow actually chooses you?
Even clubs with a top striker will probably try their luck, if they get him it means he isn't going to be playing against them
However, even Barcelona, Atletico, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Bayern, and Inter will meet the release clause IMO. It doesn't mean most of those clubs will even have a chance of signing him, but realistically why would you not meet the release clause and see if he somehow actually chooses you?
Even clubs with a top striker will probably try their luck, if they get him it means he isn't going to be playing against them
Why would Real Madrid have a problem with that salary cap? (Which btw is not exactly a salary cap is it)
Chelsea will be there to sign him.One scenario if Lukaku flopped and chelsea need another striker. Another scenario Lukaku won all for Chelsea and ballon d'or to make haaland to decide to play in best team in the world.
Bayern's fingerprints all over this one, I think. Timing will be perfect for both parties as Lewa replacement, Haaland already settled in Germany, high probability of league title and realistic tilt at Champions League every season, and long history of creaming off the best players in Germany. Odds on, in my book.
He will end up at Juve, because they are a terribly run organization that will offer him wages and agent fees they can't afford. Than when they go broke, they will sell him in two years for double the price to cover their losses.
A 21 year old is a journeyman?
I think it is simplistic to say there's no sporting merit in joining PSG. Haaland will challenge for CL, get to play with great players AND get money. Neymar finished third in voting behind the usual suspects while playing at PSG. Mbappe is typically in the top 10 of BdO voting @ PSG. He wont the Golden Boy @ PSG. As for Haaland's reasons, the next step in his career may have different motivations than when he moved to Dortmund. Priorities change, you know.
Your arguments about why Chelsea, City, Liverpool may not sign him seem to be predicated on your conviction of how clubs' business this season will pan out - which seems as much of a speculation as anything else. We aren't sure if Kane will sign for City. Or if Chelsea won't sell Havertz, or even Lukaku next season to get Haaland? There have been reports about Utd being put off by Raiola and his demands. We don't see that being used as an argument for why we won't be in for Haaland? So why make such arguments for Liverpool? After Sanchez, we too, seemed to have capped our wages. So should we rule ourselves out of the running as well?
My point with the post was that if Haaland is a "generational talent" so to speak, and available for 65m, every big club will make moves to accommodate him in the team, and woo him with sporting and monetary promises. I find it short-sighted to assume that just because a team signed a striker this season, they'll not try to sign a player supposedly as good as Haaland next year if he's available, or not change their usual approach to the market.
In my mind, It'll be Haaland's market next season - he will have the power of choice. And every club will look in his direction. To assume otherwise is a little naive.
They wouldn't. From what I've read they're below their wage-cap for this season. And this is before Varane and Ramos. They also seem to have cash on hand. If they really have a deal with Mbappe where he's going to run his contract down - they'll have money for accommodate Haaland's fee and wages and Mbappe's wages, esp if they get match-day revenue going.
Well, by the age of 21 he has already played for three different clubs in three different countries.
Quite a few candidates here. In England, I can't look beyond United. City are the only other realistic alternative, if they don't sign Kane. Chelsea will have Lukaku and Liverpool won't be able to afford the agent fee/player's salary, or will simply refuse to pay it.
On the continent, Madrid will be going all in for Mbappe. How would a front three of Mbappe, Haaland and Benzema even work? Barcelona are a mess. PSG could go big for Haaland, after losing Mbappe, even though he's a different type of player. I wonder how a Neymar, Haaland, Messi forward line would go down? I don't see him at Bayern. I think Lewandowski will still be at the club and Haaland will have outgrown Germany purely from a financial point of view. In my opinion, the real dark horse is Juve. For some reason I can see Raiola wanting to take him there. Might coincide with Ronaldo leaving too.
So all in all, United, City, PSG and Juve I think.
On the continent, Madrid will be going all in for Mbappe. How would a front three of Mbappe, Haaland and Benzema even work? Barcelona are a mess. PSG could go big for Haaland, after losing Mbappe, even though he's a different type of player. I wonder how a Neymar, Haaland, Messi forward line would go down? I don't see him at Bayern. I think Lewandowski will still be at the club and Haaland will have outgrown Germany purely from a financial point of view. In my opinion, the real dark horse is Juve. For some reason I can see Raiola wanting to take him there. Might coincide with Ronaldo leaving too.
So all in all, United, City, PSG and Juve I think.
Fabrizio said Chelsea would still be interested in him even with Lukaku.
And Madrid would manage to get him IF they get Mbappe on a free next year.
They have a lot of high earners going out of contract next year. When did Real ever think about a problem having too many stars in one team? Never
I dont think Haaland would fancy League 1 , but you'll never know if Messi and Neymar is still there .
So us, City (if not Kane), Real , Juve and then possibly Chelsea/PSG as the dark horses.
United, PSG, City, Bayern, Real in that order (with PSG and United chances to be equal).
Everyone except Chelsea (Lukaku) and Barca (broke) will be in for him.
I get the impression Haaland is deadset on the Premier League. He grew up in England for starters, and I don't see him wanting to stay in Germany and pee off Dortmund fans by going to Munich who will likely steamroll the BL by default. Real are an option if they get Mbappe on a free, but La Liga without Messi and Ronaldo is a bit of a second tier arena imo.
Where he goes depends on what our domestic rivals do in this transfer window I think. If City don't sign Kane, or Chelsea don't sign Lukaku, both will be going in hard for him next summer. If they do end up signing their respective targets, then I can see us being favourites.
Where he goes depends on what our domestic rivals do in this transfer window I think. If City don't sign Kane, or Chelsea don't sign Lukaku, both will be going in hard for him next summer. If they do end up signing their respective targets, then I can see us being favourites.
To be honest the most likely outcome is that the player will have his first choice of club in his mind, so all other interested parties will step aside. Similarly to Sancho and Varane. In fact, isn't it rare that multiple clubs are fighting over one player?Fabrizio said Chelsea would still be interested in him even with Lukaku.
And Madrid would manage to get him IF they get Mbappe on a free next year.
They have a lot of high earners going out of contract next year. When did Real ever think about a problem having too many stars in one team? Never
I dont think Haaland would fancy League 1 , but you'll never know if Messi and Neymar is still there .
So us, City (if not Kane), Real , Juve and then possibly Chelsea/PSG as the dark horses.
Will be at Munich IMO, makes too much sense Lewi will be going and Munich likes a bargain.
That doesn't classify him as a journeyman, he developed in a no mark league, was found by Lipzig and they cashed in on him to Dortmund. Zlatan's attitude when he was young was the main reason he moved about so much, as far as I am aware Haaland has no issues like that. I don't think we can underestimate the influence Mina will have on where Haaland goes.
At 21 he's played for 3 different clubs in Norway, Austria and Germany so yes he's a journeyman
Mbappe is about to ditch PSG now or next year for the same reason I'm saying Haaland won't go there. Neymar is on the list purely by merit/his Barca stint. He'd be in a much stronger contention to win it if he was still at Barcelona he's a £200m player with zero Ballon D'ors to his name so again yes Haaland will struggle to consistently win it there. Haaland Senior and Haaland himself have both publicly talked of the player's desire to play for the PL if you see the paths they've took for his career(Molde, Salzburg, Dortmund) you can see a similar pattern in terms of profile and stature of teams he's been going PSG doesn't fit the criteria in any way whatsoever.
The difference between my arguments and yours is weight. Yours is purely out of putting Utd's chances down mine actually have weight. Havertz is the Golden Boy for Chelsea and Germany with genuine talent that won his club a CL unless he gets a horror injury God forbid why would Chelsea sell after all the money they invested? Lukaku is in his prime and form wise at the very top of his game and PL proven chances of him flopping are extremely slim and even then name me one occasion where a £100m investment gets sold after a year. We're paying Sancho £250k rising to £350k and Varane circa £300k as new signings we'd easily pay a 22yr old Haaland good money so your argument on our wages holds zero weight again. And we've not made a single approach for Haaland since he moved to BVB so no idea where you read we've been put off by Raiola in regards to him smacks of a double standard argument.
I don't deny several clubs won't try to accommodate him but it doesn't mean they stand much of a chance a lot can change in a year but his decision will involve a lot of variables coming together which only clubs from Spain and England have in majority
We need to be a close second/third in the league by 5/6 points or win it or close s/f Ch Lge or better for us to be in with a shout I think. Barca and Madrid will have fudged their finances by then and with PSG City and Chelsea not frightened to spend the cash we need to show we are almost there in winning the big trophies regularly.
Yeah, I think so too. Haaland wont simply go to the highest bidder (unless there is a huge difference in offers), he’ll go where he wants to go , even if Raiola is his agent.
True, but where he wants to go will likely have a rather great congruence with who is the highest bidder.
My guess is he will be Real Madrid's big purchase next season in terms of transfer fee, since Mbappe, Pogba and Camavinga will be "free" signings to them in terms of transfer fees.
If he comes to England then I expect whichever of the two sugar daddy clubs has the worse season will look to make yet another "statement", regardless of Kane or Lukaku. It'll be interesting to see what happens if both lose-out on the league to Liverpool; Mino could maybe try to play them against each other but I don't think City will go in for that sort of thing. We will be linked, but not a serious option I don't think, especially not after Pogba leaves again for nothing souring things with Mino.
I don't think Bayern will be the destination for him - I understand the thinking about why they'd make sense, but doesn't quite feel right to me; I think he'll move to a new league.
PSG after losing Mbappe also makes sense, but I don't feel that one happening either - obviously the money will be tempting, but I don't see him moving there this early.
If he comes to England then I expect whichever of the two sugar daddy clubs has the worse season will look to make yet another "statement", regardless of Kane or Lukaku. It'll be interesting to see what happens if both lose-out on the league to Liverpool; Mino could maybe try to play them against each other but I don't think City will go in for that sort of thing. We will be linked, but not a serious option I don't think, especially not after Pogba leaves again for nothing souring things with Mino.
I don't think Bayern will be the destination for him - I understand the thinking about why they'd make sense, but doesn't quite feel right to me; I think he'll move to a new league.
PSG after losing Mbappe also makes sense, but I don't feel that one happening either - obviously the money will be tempting, but I don't see him moving there this early.
Bayern isn't even remotely realistic.
He can pick whatever team he wants, really, as long as they can afford him, and he will 100% go to PL or Spain, most likely PL, since his dad played there, and all us Noggies follow the PL.
He can pick whatever team he wants, really, as long as they can afford him, and he will 100% go to PL or Spain, most likely PL, since his dad played there, and all us Noggies follow the PL.
In order of probability I'd say PSG is the obvious one if Mbappe goes to Madrid, then Madrid, Man Utd, Juventus and Bayern.
That‘s not what that word means. Zlatan and Erling are the furthest things from being journeymen.
Next summer window:
United
Real Madrid
Juve
liverpool (if they sell one of Salah or Mane)
Bayern
City (if they don’t land Kane)
Barca (if they get their finances in order, highly unlikely at this point)
PSG
Apparently his father or Haaland himself stressed the importance of playing at a club with history. Imo, United, liverpool, Madrid and Bayern will be the top 4 in the running for his signature next season. I actually like our chances, but it will be largely dependent on how close we push city for the title and our progress in Europe. Any season similar to our last two and I doubt he comes here.
United
Real Madrid
Juve
liverpool (if they sell one of Salah or Mane)
Bayern
City (if they don’t land Kane)
Barca (if they get their finances in order, highly unlikely at this point)
PSG
Apparently his father or Haaland himself stressed the importance of playing at a club with history. Imo, United, liverpool, Madrid and Bayern will be the top 4 in the running for his signature next season. I actually like our chances, but it will be largely dependent on how close we push city for the title and our progress in Europe. Any season similar to our last two and I doubt he comes here.
I think that's a good estimation.
I would add Juve to the mix, and I would exclude City and Chelsea only if they spend big on strikers this summer, not for that history stuff.
In order:
1. United
2. Madrid
3. Juve
4. Bayern
5. City
I honestly don't think PSG are in contention. They'll end up getting Salah who'll be entering the final year of his contract and looking for his final payday. Liverpool will also need to overhaul their attack and be open to selling.
City go to the top the list if they don't sign Kane. We go to the bottom of the list if our season is a shit show and Ole is sacked.
1. United
2. Madrid
3. Juve
4. Bayern
5. City
I honestly don't think PSG are in contention. They'll end up getting Salah who'll be entering the final year of his contract and looking for his final payday. Liverpool will also need to overhaul their attack and be open to selling.
City go to the top the list if they don't sign Kane. We go to the bottom of the list if our season is a shit show and Ole is sacked.
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