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Where do you see Manchester United in 5 years?
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You chose that one to single out?
After destroying Mourinho's career, a desperate Manchester United turns to Eddie Howe who builds his legend by winning the EPL, the FA Cup, the League cup and Europa League with its now legendary captain Jesse Lingard who is earning 360k per weeks.
Amongst Europe's elite again would be fantastic, and very realistic under Jose. We are a club that should be up there with Madrid, Bayern and Barca- and I think to be there in 5 years considering our resources is more than a fair ask.
League One
Pretty sure you'll be more competitive from now on again. You'll never get Fergie era dominance again but this is your last season in the wilderness. You'll be competing every season, winning, losing and having the odd blip season like all the other strong teams the league has. Chelsea, City and United for definite will be in the mix more often than not. Spurs if they continue to do the right thing, keep their players and Poch probably Liverpool if Klopp gets the right players and they get the massive wages to turnover under control. I think Arsenal are the team who are staring down the transition period and its a bad time to be facing one of those.
The only certainty is that the team people imagine we'll have wont happen and half our squad (or more) will be gone. That's always the way.
Old Trafford.
Unless it's an away game.
Unless it's an away game.
Still the biggest and best team in the land.
6th, always 6th.
He has that vibe to him. I don't know. I don't like his attitude.
This
I just did a quick calculation and realized that it's been 9 years since we last won the CL. There was a period of 9 years time-span since we won our 3rd CL and 2nd CL so I hope that we can win this within the next 5 years. 5 years is a long time in football. Looking back 5 years ago, it was SAF's last season and during these 5 years, we won the PL title x1, FA Cup x1 and League Cup x1. Within the next 5 years, I expect us to double what we've won and win the CL.
Old Trafford. If not,TV.
I get the thing about the personality thing but going from a hard man like Jose to another hard man maybe would not work. It's very possible at that time what we need after success is possibly a bit of calm and a more longstanding approach and trust in players and a new manager.
I look at the last 10 years the most successful clubs at least in terms winning things continually- have been clubs that have had a balance of embracing their own club culture and ideologies. This can happen through embracing youth/homegrown players, playing to tactics the whole club is familiar with( why I mention we could see a modern 442 turning to 433) mixed with quality additions who also understand the what it means to play for this club.
Teams like Madrid,City, PSG, Chelsea have hardly dominated for more than a year(Consistently going after players that show more good form than anything else) whilst clubs like BAYERN, Barcelona,Dortmund, Atletico and even Monaco as an example have been either continuously winning things or punching above their weight by having a loyal plan/tactics/players in place.
That's where I see Giggs fitting in. We need Jose right now to make our name loud again but I just don't really see him embracing some of the things that makes United the way it is and the way it was even before we were successful.
Probably still on the TV
All the clubs that you mentioned above are able to buy up the best players from their respective leagues without very much hassle at all. Kind of like what we used to do. Buy the best player in the league every so often and mix them with our youth etc. There's far too much competition now and not enough time to bed players in. We will pay wages as high and probably higher than all the above going forward which will make us a very attractive club again once we become even moderately competitive. I don't see us dominating the league again like we did with SAF. I think he's set us up as one of the biggest clubs in the world but the PL is a different animal now. I think we will always challenge once we get settled again though
Nice post by the way. I don't particularly agree with you about giggs but I see your point. It's really hard to know how things will turn out. That's what so exciting about football. : )
Thanks bud. Your point about the premier league being a different animal is the same reason I have hope in what makes us different. The best way to beat teams isn't to copy them in my eyes - we have to be the guys that are different and ultimately this will show on the pitch and in the leagues. Being masters at our own specific type of football puts the opposition in the back seat and has them having to adapt their own tactics to try to counter us - we see it now with how people leave us alone when we have the ball.
A little thing I want to bring up is that even after LVG has gone - we are still retaining possession; there is a clear groundwork in place - formations work in the same manner - a mix of 433,451 and 352. Ultimately a team that has possession has the ability to do whatever they want with the ball & play to the managers tactics better than if we didn't. If Jose wants the Cb's to play the ball up to a lone striker; then that is more likely to still happen in possession (though I don't think this is the best use of it). That's why I believe Post LVG clubs have been successful so far without fail and why I believe even a newbie like Giggs can have his imprint on the club. We have the ball and we can literally determine our future.
I'd like to show you 2 quotes:
"I am very disappointed to be unable to complete our intended three-year plan.
"I believe that the foundations are firmly in place to enable the club to move forward and achieve even greater success."
LVG final message after sack.
Few things to note is that LVG himself called it a 3 year plan - this wasn't a tenure- they were trying to build something; he continues to talk about foundations and so on.
Then Giggs said that working with LVG can be frustrating because there were things he agreed with and things he didn't
"It's not about biting your lip. It was different in a lot of respects to what I'd been used to under Sir Alex for so long but I learned how to set up a team and different coaching sessions. Like anything, there were bits that you would take and bits that you wouldn't.
He ultimately knows what's left behind and talks about SAF and LVG as managers he learned from tactically. In my honest opinion these 2 are the managers who have had the biggest influence in 21st century dominance of football clubs. For every person who sees things like this there is about 3 people who don't and you just have to respect them.
Giggs goes on to say that it was obvious that United needed Jose at that time and this is exactly how I see it - we need to be amongst the big boys again - no matter what and no better manager than Jose for that. With him, I see us heading a little down the Rijkaard route of Barcelona- where players of different styles played with possession football before Guardiola came in and made the style unanimous- suddenly you had a whole team playing one way. The way only Barcelona could play. ( This is also the reason I am not the slightest bit worried about him at City nor when he was at Bayern- he isn't half as good tactically or through structure as people think- he simply knew how to take Barcelona forward with the possession structure his club had and he himself played in)
Likewise- I see every opportunity and ability in Giggs (possibly Nicky butt) to give us that extra bit of difference and have United one day playing the United way, since he knows the club, knows the tactics and foundations of both SAF and LVG.
There's a slight difference between success and dominance. United we're built to be dominant in the next 5 years. Don't you worry!
Tc bud
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He hasn't been to a final in seven years coaching far stronger sides than your current one.
United's squad would have to be rehauled massively to put them anywhere close to being a serious Champions League contender. A quarter-final in the next few years would be a huge success.
European Super League
Hard to tell, 5 years in football is a huge time. We were still winning titles 5 years ago and now fighting for top 4.
I'll answer it this way: If Jose is still here in 5 years we'll be the no.1 team in England again.
I'll answer it this way: If Jose is still here in 5 years we'll be the no.1 team in England again.
Undefeated but still in 6th
I think you're building a very good team, and it would be a shame to miss out on CL again. I'd take a couple of your midfielders at Barca, and that's certainly something I wouldn't have said 2-3 years ago.
I dont get the Giggs thing with a few of the more serious!? posters. Giggs will never manage this club unless he goes to another big club has fantastic success, and then offered the Utd job, and then decide to leave this successful club for a poor Utd, as this would be the only reason we were changing the manager. If that scenario were to happen, it certainly wont happen in the next 5 years.
Ask me in the summer. Hard to predict before then as right now it's easy to have negative thoughts.
The CL is not the competition the European Cup used to be where Red Star and other lesser known clubs can win it, top clubs with financial clout usually stay where they are and hence have good chances to go deep into the knockout stages where it's anyone's game. I wouldn't use the present status quo as any sort of portent of where we will be in 5 years after we would have properly moved on from the afterglow of Fergie retiring.
Outside EU.
Well, I'm hoping we have the same manager. We can't keep sacking managers and rebuilding every other season.
Once Jose has his preferred squad of players, which he will easily have by 5 years time, then you're hoping he takes us back to the top. Not saying we need to win titles every year, but certainly challenging for titles and big cup competitions, especially the CL.
Once Jose has his preferred squad of players, which he will easily have by 5 years time, then you're hoping he takes us back to the top. Not saying we need to win titles every year, but certainly challenging for titles and big cup competitions, especially the CL.
I categorically disagree with you.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them win it next year.
Where do you see Manchester United in 5 years?
London
London
Interviewing you for the job you lost to me?
Haha wth is that? Is that the Liverpool's something?True, I'm just playing along with the thread.
Seems fun, and well I doubt my predictions would come to fruition completely, but prolly just some of it turns true by chance. Basing a lot of my predictions from the current squad and its seemingly foundation - building of team around some of the potential long term core players.An interesting look back into the past...
Nailed it!
Every one of those player predictions was wrong, bad luck there. Fair play for giving it a go though; you nearly got DDG right with the world class bit!
Unfortunately it did not work.
A lot of comments like this. It is surprising to me how positive we all were back then.
Thankfully we did not quite get open letters, but we experienced top tier muppetry this summer, so well done! We also had @Raees ruin our chances to sign a player!
Amazingly, things did not get quite as bad. It certainly felt at times like it could though.
Nailed it as well, although I guess this was obvious.
Nailed it!
Still in Old Trafford...?
Ok, seriously
Rashford becoming more lethal as our ace striker.
Martial, matured into one of the best wingers in his prime.
Pogba, at his peak dominating the midfield with ease maturely.
Andreas Pereira, superb delivery of crosses and set-piece taker.
Lingard, our reliable mr. consistent always working hard and cover us well. Love to score important goals.
TFM, became our terminator in midfield B2B and protects the defense well.
Bailly, one of the world's best CB, nothing passed him. In his prime. Organizes our defense.
Shaw, Our's and England's best LB, fitness is a bit concern, but he always delivers.
CBJ, good cover of Shaw. Quality defending and delivery of crosses.
Tuanzebe, superb CB interceptor, still yet in his prime. Reminiscence of Ferdinand.
Keane, great CB, back home, played with heart. Embody United's spirit.
De Gea, still playing for us and still world class.
Every one of those player predictions was wrong, bad luck there.
Fair play for giving it a go though; you nearly got DDG right with the world class bit!Unfortunately it did not work.
A lot of comments like this. It is surprising to me how positive we all were back then.
Thankfully we did not quite get open letters, but we experienced top tier muppetry this summer, so well done! We also had @Raees ruin our chances to sign a player!
Amazingly, things did not get quite as bad. It certainly felt at times like it could though.
Nailed it as well, although I guess this was obvious.
In five years I expect we will be a top four regular with a couple CL wins. I believe in this manager.
Hopefully we will also have a new owner.
Hopefully we will also have a new owner.