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What is your GPU, and is it better than the PS4's [Weaste decides]
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Yeah not a chance the ps4 is going to perform like a 7970. Just look at the ultra screenies from BF4 and then check out PS4, they aren't even in the same league.
I've got an over-clocked Radeon HD 7790 tailgating 8gb of DDR3 with a 32mb eSRAM catalyst supporting an octo-core 1.86ghz CPU bracket running a Hyper-V triple OS model.
Dog's bollocks spring to mind.
Dog's bollocks spring to mind.
AMD A10-5800k with integrated graphics. Just about equal I reckon.
You do know what hardware that was running on don't you? Nobody said 7970 anyway, I said 7970m. You need to improve your reading comprehension. You also don't take into account OS, API, and driver layers. So, in short, stop talking daft!
You are not in the ballpark!
I know, I knocked it way out the park
I know, I knocked it way out the park
Yeah, it's over there with your Wii U!
Well, I wouldn't go that far. I'd have to overclock it a bit to reach those levels.
Sorry mate, how do I find out? I didn't think RAM on a GFX had types, thought it was just the size..
Nvidia GTX660 (i5 3570k, 8g RAM if its relevant). Based on that chart Weaste posted I'll not be playing Battlefield 4 on Ultra. But then again I probably won't be playing it at all, so life goes on.
Weaste/Lambs, am I in the ballpark? Scalping just outside? Looking in from an apartment high rise 6 blocks away?
What is the ps4 GPU equivalent to, to your best estimation?
Weaste/Lambs, am I in the ballpark? Scalping just outside? Looking in from an apartment high rise 6 blocks away?
What is the ps4 GPU equivalent to, to your best estimation?
It's not easy to say exactly, as it is modified, but in architecture terms it's this....
The modifications are that it can go directly through the CPU cache, and it has far more compute queues than the standard PC chip - 64 vs. 16. It's running off GDDR5 giving 176GB/s of bandwidth and runs at 800MHz.
Only 176GB/s? The XBO tops out at 200+GB/s!
I'm sure Weaste has a reason you're wrong, and I'm sure I don't care who is right.
Either way the salient point is that this isn't the thread.
Interesting, though the second part goes over my head mostly. I assume these sorts of modifications are part of what differentiates gaming consoles from regular PCs? Ie they're there solely to improve gaming performance, but wouldn't be ideal for general computing tasks?
Also, you didn't say how close I am to the ballpark..
It's more or less on topic.
No it isn't. I see no brackets after the thread title stating "(and while we're on the subject, lets discuss the graphical capabilities of the Xbox One vs the PS4, because we certainly haven't had enough of that debate on this forum)"
You don't need that in brackets because the main thread title covers it.
"What is your GPU?" mine is the XBO GPU
"and is it better than the PS4's?" cue comparison
The bus snooping is for when the GPU and CPU are both working on the same task. This does not currently exist in the PC world as the CPU and the GPU have their own memory. On PS4 they share the same memory pool. Secondly, the access to the hardware is far more direct, as the hardware is fixed. On a PC a game never knows what it is dealing with, so has to go through multiple layers of software to get the job done. In theory you should be able to hit console hardware directly. It will always be the same.
Do you want me to pollute your XBone thread in the same way? feck off you useless piece of shit.
What's got into you?!
feck sakes man. That actually makes some kind of sense to me, cheers.
I still don't know my point in three dimensional space relative to this ballpark...
You're a wanker!
It's only a microchip, mate, don't get so upset over it. It doesn't mean we can't be friends!
WeasteDevil said:
Out of interest what is required to met the 'gaming spec PC'?
I've built mine for the last 12 years, always to support my gaming hobby. Equally, I've always built to a budget and usually a target game. My CPU is a 1st gen Intel quad, so now my oldest bit. The 7870 was a recent purchase, along with an SSD to give me acceptable (30+fps) on Arma3. This might sound poor but it's a resource hog game and stable 30+ multiplayer is a good result.
When I can afford it, I'll upgrade the mobo to allow an i7 and an increase to 16gb ram (currently 8).
To me, these have always been 'gaming pc's but I'm curious to know if they actually are.
Wait. What? I'm sure I had the word "PC" in the title. Someone must have taken it out! Probably me mind.
Weaste also gets to decide though. He is the kingmaker of the thread. He has not found in your favour. In general, Weaste is arguing magnificently. He is brilliantly treading the line by claiming the Xbox is shit for not hitting 1080p60, whilst also arguing well that Steam statistics show that most PC gamers do not have "better than PS4 PC's". And he is right isn't he?
Basically the question has been answered by Weaste, your GPU isnt as good as the PS4s.
Next PC discussion should be, "Would you turn your resolution down to 720p to get better graphics?" and "What distance can you tell 1080p from 720p on your TV?" and then "1080p120 vs 2160p60"
Edit - I dont actually want to discuss any of those
M$ right fecked up there then.
7790 will get you near 1.8 tflops.. So how has M$ to only get 1.2 tflops out of there overclocked 7790
Ah, but Weaste hasn't taken into account the effect of the XBO's eSRAM, because he cannot, because he's unable to quantify it.
The intricacies inherent in the XBO architecture have caused certain early generational titles to fall somewhat behind the $ON¥ equivalents with developers as yet unaccustomed to such optimisation, giving the temporary impression that the XBO isn't as capable as the PS4; but in the long run the truth of the matter will be revealed. In the long run we'll see parity between the two GPU's, because there's just barely anything between them should both be fully optimised.
The intricacies inherent in the XBO architecture have caused certain early generational titles to fall somewhat behind the $ON¥ equivalents with developers as yet unaccustomed to such optimisation, giving the temporary impression that the XBO isn't as capable as the PS4; but in the long run the truth of the matter will be revealed. In the long run we'll see parity between the two GPU's, because there's just barely anything between them should both be fully optimised.
I have no doubt that is correct Cider. Seriously. The XboxOne should obviously get more 1080p60 titles as time goes on.
But this is not the thread for it. There is already a XboxOne vs PS4 thread.
This is for comparing peoples PCs against the current leader of the Next Generation consoles.
But this is not the thread for it. There is already a XboxOne vs PS4 thread.
This is for comparing peoples PCs against the current leader of the Next Generation consoles.
He's been banned from it for spouting shite!
They are, just low end (for a gaming PC, not a PC in general). That's the problem with PCs, the sky is the limit depending on how much cash you have and the goalposts are always shifting. There is no real definition as to what is what. I think that a gaming PC would be one that can run any game at 60fps with all settings turned up at the current standard resolution, which now would be either 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 depending on aspect ratios.
Geez, Lambo is becoming my personal hero. This is just fecking great (insane). Why does he need them though is another matter though, isn't a Titan supposed to be the best GPU on the market, so shouldn't a single one run everything?!
Yeah he is right on both fronts, but not that the ps4 gpu is a 7970 or that it matches a 690.
Most people don't have a 690 or a 7970 either.
The ps4 GPU is a 7850. Decent enough with specific OS and a shitload of RAM. It will be good to go.
Most people acknowledge the ps4 GPU is right for 1080p 60fps gaming on current engines. The CPU is a bit shit though and that's a shame.
no doubt I will get one though when Heavy rain 2 comes out
I have ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 on my laptop.
I assume I am not in the same city as the ballpark.
I assume I am not in the same city as the ballpark.
I have the GTX 660M. We are in the same city.
Good to know I'm not alone.
Is it possible to play a Wii with a PC monitor?