Precisely. It isn't a difficult concept, but some seemingly struggle with it.
What is a 'Pointless Club'?
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Everton.
Unless you're 45 and up, they're a club who seemingly haven't done anything for decade upon decade.
Unless you're 45 and up, they're a club who seemingly haven't done anything for decade upon decade.
Crystal Palace
West Ham
Everton
Spurs
Newcastle
Southampton
Wolves
All pointless clubs because they are all fart and no shit. Their main purpose is to “feck shit up” without actually achieving anything of note. They will unexpectedly beat a team well above them, before succumbing to a humiliating defeat at relegation contenders the following weekend. They also have a habit of having cloggers in the side like Mark Noble, Jay Rodriguez and Andy Carroll, who serve absolutely no purpose for 99% of the season but will either score a random goal or end up injuring a player in a fit of over-zealousness.
West Ham
Everton
Spurs
Newcastle
Southampton
Wolves
All pointless clubs because they are all fart and no shit. Their main purpose is to “feck shit up” without actually achieving anything of note. They will unexpectedly beat a team well above them, before succumbing to a humiliating defeat at relegation contenders the following weekend. They also have a habit of having cloggers in the side like Mark Noble, Jay Rodriguez and Andy Carroll, who serve absolutely no purpose for 99% of the season but will either score a random goal or end up injuring a player in a fit of over-zealousness.
Any other time I would have said Fulham, without a single major-ish honour won in their history.
Annoyingly this season it seems they're doing their best to become relevant again and make me eat my words.
Annoyingly this season it seems they're doing their best to become relevant again and make me eat my words.
It’s weird to have people calling clubs like Everton, West Ham, Palace etc. as pointless but then clubs like Fulham, Brighton and Brentford aren’t? Is that because they’re doing well this season because the metrics you’re using for the former clubs apply to the latter clubs too.
Again, if over half of the club's in the 'best league in the world' are pointless, why do you bother to watch? Football's a bit crap then isn't it?
None of these clubs are pointless. Even if you look at it through the very arrogant and stupid prism of just trophies, Everton are the club with the 4th most titles in English history and 8th in major trophies overall. But yeah, all those clubs are important clubs to their communities with their own legends, heroes and stories forged through their own battles fought throughout their history. To boil their entire existence down to ‘trophies or nah’ is really, really fecking stupid.
I agree with you. I'm just struggling to understand the logic of people that do label them as pointless but omit other clubs when if you're going to lump a few in then you have to really lump them all.
AFC Bury, because without it Bury FC could have a second crack at life.
Ridiculous to call any club pointless. What complete snobbery.
Pointless to me is a club that whether they win or lose, they don't matter. Irrelevant to you personally.
City, PSG, Barca would be pointless clubs whos history is fully tainted in my view. A giant asterisk beside anything they do. Similar to how I'd view United if we get taken over by a country that just pumps cheating-amount of money into the club.
I think it is too harsh to judge mid-table types of clubs or even clubs that go up and down as pointless. Their fans aren't going to matches expecting a title challenge. They have realistic goals within their limits that they fight for.
City, PSG, Barca would be pointless clubs whos history is fully tainted in my view. A giant asterisk beside anything they do. Similar to how I'd view United if we get taken over by a country that just pumps cheating-amount of money into the club.
I think it is too harsh to judge mid-table types of clubs or even clubs that go up and down as pointless. Their fans aren't going to matches expecting a title challenge. They have realistic goals within their limits that they fight for.
Well in recent memory you have done nothing but underperform. They over perform for the size of their clubs and people respect that.
So are you a pointless club because you are underperforming this season?
West. Bromwich. Albion.
They're the absolute definition of one.
They're the absolute definition of one.
No such thing as a pointless club, just elitism of fans from the bigger clubs. Some supporters turn up every week knowing their club will likely never win anything in their lifetime but enjoy it week to week.
Can't agree, they were the opposition of one of the best games I ever had the pleasure of attending + they sold us Captain Marvel
The funny thing is i bet many of the same posters saying this type of stuff will be the first to say "what do Palace expect?" when they try to improve themselves by sacking an underperforming Vieira in the next few weeks.
Yo-yo clubs annoy me and I consider them pointless.
Burnley and west brom offered precisely nothing in the prem.
Burnley and west brom offered precisely nothing in the prem.
So you'd prefer a closed shop American style league then?
Clubs are important to local communities so none are pointless
To me the clubs that win most stuff are pointless. Does a Bayern fan give 2 fecks about winning the bundes liga? Is it so special for a Real fan to win 5 CL trophies in 10 years (no idea if they have mind). Ajacieden mock Feyenoord for only winning the league every other decade, but winning is more fun if it's an outlier.
I can't imagine Goliath's parents were proud of him beating David to a bloody pulp.
I can't imagine Goliath's parents were proud of him beating David to a bloody pulp.
Childish jibe. Some clubs may not be successful or particularly glamorous, but they probably mean something to their community and their supporters. That should be respected regardless of whether you get bored of seeing the same clubs camped in the middle of the table.
For me a pointless club is one that:
In a title race most people want that team to win purely as a vehicle to stop the team you really hate from winning. For instance, no one wanted Liverpool to win the title a few years back not just because of the added prestige but because the fanbase would be unbearable. The same thing with Arsenal this season. Compare that to City winning the league, there are no ramifications. They don't have enough fans to annoy you with delusion & gloating, their trophies are merely reduced to just a statistic and everyone moves on.
In a title race most people want that team to win purely as a vehicle to stop the team you really hate from winning. For instance, no one wanted Liverpool to win the title a few years back not just because of the added prestige but because the fanbase would be unbearable. The same thing with Arsenal this season. Compare that to City winning the league, there are no ramifications. They don't have enough fans to annoy you with delusion & gloating, their trophies are merely reduced to just a statistic and everyone moves on.
Dortmund and Spurs are the definition of this
And Everton.
It may aswell be given how relegation is rewarded.
Thank you. Agree completely.
Guess you were in favor of the ESL as well then
Truth, right there.
Not particularly, but I couldn't really get on board with the extreme outrage when the PL and UCL are super leagues in all but name.
I think you might need to refresh your biblical knowledge!
kinnel, David won? Game raising cnut.
Why bother? The whole thread is mostly a cesspit of arrogance and ignorance
true. I forgot that whenever we all play United it is a “cup final”.
Every club before the first game is played in a season is point less
It’s because football fans consider themselves to be winners with winning mentality and standards and anyone not meeting their lofty expectations is pointless. Shambles of a thread.Why bother? The whole thread is mostly a cesspit of arrogance and ignorance
Burnley had 6 straight seasons in the Premier League and qualified Europe during that time. Such a yo-yo club.
And by the end of the season they are all point more. The eternal cycle of life, isn't it wonderful.