Crashoutcassius
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lol any new managerDrop Rooney, new manager, CB, winger and a striker and I'd reckon we would dominate English football again
lol any new managerDrop Rooney, new manager, CB, winger and a striker and I'd reckon we would dominate English football again
that would be a spectacular window, although I do think LVG will look at a left footed CB before ever spending 50m on another right footer"Sky sources also understand United will be heavily active in the transfer market next summer, but will not be drawn into spending big money in the upcoming January transfer window."
Thank feck.
I actually think this summer will be our biggest spending window ever.
We need at least 3, if not 4, top draw players.
Kane, Stones, Griezmann and Mane would be good.
Get rid of Fellaini, Rooney, Jones, etc.
I can't even quantify he sort of numbers at market rates it would take to close the gap on the big euro 3 - our peers.
The club has to do some business in January,even if we are paying over the odds.
...we're about 220-240M away from having a squad comparable with the big 3.
To buy Messi, Neymar and Suarez (or their equivalents), will cost £300M+.
And that does not include any midfielders or defenders.
The £40M-£50M for each attacker, you have quoted, would leave us weak upfront, compared with the big 3.
£220-£240M will bring us to the level of Man City's squad.
£400M will bring us to the level of the big 3's squad (Barca, Madrid, Bayern).
Name me a decent player, who will make our team better, who is attainable in January.
To buy Messi, Neymar and Suarez (or their equivalents), will cost £300M+.
And that does not include any midfielders or defenders.
The £40M-£50M for each attacker, you have quoted, would leave us weak upfront, compared with the big 3.
£220-£240M will bring us to the level of Man City's squad.
£400M will bring us to the level of the big 3's squad (Barca, Madrid, Bayern).
I don't even think it's possible for us to sign a forward line like Messi, Suarez and Neymar.
But Bayern are as good a team as Barca with Costa-Lewandowski-Robben-Muller-Gotze-Coman and then the injured Robben-Ribery.
That is insane depth, but only 5 or so really matter if you have good health, and I think in a year or 2 we will have 3 players at that general level in Martial, Memphis and Mata. If we add a great attacker like Bale, Reus or Griezmann for 60-70 and find the next Douglas Costa for 30-40 (say Leroy Sane, Teixera or someone else who is unproven but has talent). That wouldn't be great depth, but would be a competitive group of 5 attackers and hopefully one of Wilson, Januzaj, Pereira or Lingard can emerge as attacker #6 and soon #5 since Mata will probably be unplayably slow in about 3-4 years. An older attacker like Robben or Nolito who might have 2-3 years at this level could be attacking player #5 or #6.
City seem strong but they still need a great RW with pace, 1 or 2 CMs (Yaya will be 33 by the end of the season) and 2 FBs to have the kind of squad the big 3 have. That's still at minimum 150M away, assuming 60 for the attacker, 50 for the FBs and 40 for the CM. But that's not beyond them. They just had a summer of Sterling, De Bruyne and Otamendi. An equivalent summer addressing their current holes and something like Griezmann, Ricardo Rodriguez, Mario Gaspar and Krychowiak, for example, would maybe cost about 150M, but they would be instantly very, very strong.
For January, we definitely need a few players. It won't be easy, but there's definitely buyable players right now. (This is basically what I'd say we need if Van Gaal wants to be successful here, which he can, he just needs a lot better players so the quality can make up for his slow style).
Mahrez wouldn't be easy, but would they take a 25-30m bid? I think they would. If not him then go for Lucas Anderson, Mane, Bellarabi, Yarmolenko, Konoplyanka, or someone like that. World class isn't doable even in the summer unless Bale becomes a serious option, but there are plenty of good players at smaller clubs that we could get for the right wing. Definitely need someone for that side though, and we could get someone and still get Bale in the summer without it being overkill.
Definitely a striker, though this could wait until summer if a bigger name is more likely. Or someone like Berardi who can play on the right or up top just to give us more depth on both those positions, to see us through to the summer.
Not sure if we really need a left back. Shaw will recover and come back next season, and until then, we can use Rojo/Blind/Darmian as stop gaps. We need someone on the right though. Darmian is very meh. Not sure if he has it in him to be good enough to be first choice at a club like United where you want your right backs to offer a lot going forward and constantly overlap. No idea who is available though. Ideally, we'd have Shaw/Blind for left back, ????/Darmian for right back.
For center back, Stones would obviously be perfect. Stones and Smalling, with Jones and Rojo as back up, would be a very good group.
Then in the summer we might need a goalkeeper if De Gea ends up going to Madrid.
So we've definitely got a bit of transfer business to do in January and in the summer. At least 4 needed (striker, winger, center back, fullback), and then also if anyone leaves to replace them since our squad is threadbare as it is. Probably a midfielder like Gundogan as well. So in the next two windows, to really catch up and make up ground on the top teams, we should really look to buy 6 players so we can challenge on all fronts and have a good side overall with good depth everywhere.
De Gea
???? Smalling Stones Shaw
Gundogan Schneiderlin
Mahrez Mata Bale
Martial
Romero
Darmian Jones Rojo Blind
Herrera Schweinsteiger
Januzaj Pereira Memphis
????
Not sure about the RB but maybe Wilson can take the striker role in the 2nd 11, or that lad from Fulham we're linked with, Embolo could be another option. Personally Mata would be nowhere near my ideal starting 11 and Herrera would be in that midfield 3, I'm not sold on Mahrez either but overall I think you're spot on with what we need.
Do you rate Rabiot mate? I think if Pep is appointed (unlikely as it may seem right now) Schneiderlin might find himself out of favor for the #6 role. Rabiot is a bit languid, but he would be really good in the Busquets/ Alonso role. Maybe something like this for the starting XI, if not Rabiot then maybe Sergi Samper; and Deulofeu because Pep rates him from his Barcelona days:
Alternatively, under Ancelotti we could target Verratti given his relationship with Carlo while keeping Schnederlin as the defensive midfielder. And Cristiano.
No more tumescent 4-2-3-1 with point forwards and Felling for Plan B.
Another myth.We need to work out why we always have so many injuries.
are you saying it's a myth that we get severe injury crises in defence? because I think it's the 3rd year in a row we've had 4-6 first team defenders out at onceAnother myth.
More than Arsenal or B'Mouth or Liverpool etc?
I think I saw someone do that stats on this, ours is no worse (or maybe marginally worse at best) than other teams.are you saying it's a myth that we get severe injury crises in defence? because I think it's the 3rd year in a row we've had 4-6 first team defenders out at once
I think I saw someone do that stats on this, ours is no worse (or maybe marginally worse at best) than other teams.
Bit cringe that it keeps having to be brought up.
ps. maybe have a squad big enough to cope, like most other top teams?!