What do we still need? Post Summer 2015 edition.

De Gea

Valencia
Smalling
Blind
Rojo
Shaw

Carrick
Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
Herrera
Young
Mata

Depay
Martial

The rest all out.
 
Raoul said:
I agree with this. We had a good squad when Fergie left and could've easily maintained it with a couple of new players and a great manager. Obviously that wasn't in the cards with Moyes, which subsequently led us astray in terms of transfers.
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disagree with that. Couple of new players? Scholes retired, Giggs 39, and SAf hadn't bought a midfielder for 5 years, while not forgetting that Rio and Vidic were on their last legs. Plus, Smalling and Jones had played more at RB than at CB under SAF.
It was never going to be easy for any manager, but suggesting only a couple of signings would have kept us competitive, is misleading in my view. I accept there were still some very good players at the club, but there was plenty of under performers who needed to be replaced too. So in my view it was clearly a team that required far more time and restructuring than you are suggesting.
 
1) An experienced centre forward to get us goals and take the pressure off Martial. Should be either good in the air or pacey.

2) A fast winger who can beat his man and put in good balls.

3) A plan for Rooney's older years. Either at the club or elsewhere.
 
I expect us to make a world record offer for Kane. Yes, it's crazy money but the potential upside of having a top striker for 10 years should prove a bargain.

Add two wingers and Stones.

Sell a few of the deadwood. Find a way to release Rooney.
 
This is all dream and highly unrealisitic.

Trim the deadwood. Get rid of LvG and get a progressive forward thinking manager in. Pochettino or Tuchel.

Ideally I'd like a better back up keeper than Romero. I'd punt Romero and Valdes and get someone in for cover for Dave. Can't trust Romero.

Right back is dodgy. Valencia will be coming back from a long lay off, and Darmian hasn't looked convincing. Re-assess whether Darmian is good enough to first choice after the season is over. If not get someone in. Release Valencia to someone he'll get regular games with.

Smalling is the man at centre half, and Blind has impressed beside him. If Stones was available for a not too ridiculous fee Id get him in. As for back ups, Jones has too prove his fitness this year or we need a more reliable third choice. Rojo is fine as fourth choice and covering for Shaw.

Hopefully Shaw will come back all guns blaring, and he'll be fine. We have Rojo/Blind who can cover for him, but ideally we'd get someone else in, as we don't want another situation like we've had this year. If Stones came Blind would be fine covering as second choice left back though.

Carrick should probably be let go at the end of the year. Herrera needs to be one of the deeper two in midfield, and let Bastian/Morgan play for the other position. Get rid of Fellaini too. Another is needed in here, ideal world Gundogan and let him and Herrera fight it out. Blind can cover all the roles.

Rooney needs to go. Lingard isn't good enough. Memphis will hopefully kick on, as will Martial. Mata has to be played as #10, and if not sold. Bring Januzaj back, get Kane and two pacey wing forwards.
 
A striker, winger, centre back and creative midfielder would be perfect.

Stones,Griezmann,Gundogan,Kane - Option A

Mané, Barkley/Tielemans, Batshuayi/Ronaldo..., Rugani - Option B

Have a feeling we will attempt to buy at least one Everton player next summer, providing we actually finish above them :nervous: Stones probably the most likely one. Smalling - Stones partnership would be ridiculous.

Best case scenario,

------------------------De Gea--------------------
Darmian--------Smalling----Stones----Shaw
---------------Schneiderlin-----Schweinsteiger---------
---------------------Gundogan/Herrera------------------
Griezmann------------------------------Martial
----------------------Kane------------------


-------------------De Gea-----------------
Darmian--------Smalling----Jones/Rugani-----Shaw

---------------Schneiderlin----Schweinsteiger
-----------------Barkley--------------------
Mané-----------------------------Martial---------
-----------------Batshuayi------------------
 
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Stones should be a no brained. Probably take £50m to get him, considering they rejected £400m last summer. I can't see them standing in his way from a big move again.
 
£50m for a central defender is silly money. If Stones was the best defender in the world, perhaps you would pay that.

Obviously he still has room to improve but there are flaws in his game that don't get picked up on as they would if he were at United. He isn't so much of an improvement that he's worth investing anywhere near that amount of money for him.
 
I think if we bring a CB in it will be a cheaper, young CB as despite the fact I want us to sign Stones I think LvG sees Smalling and Blind as his starting pairing and results support his argument for keeping them as such. Maybe someone like Riedewald could be added to the rotation although I imagine internal pressure will be to promote Tuanzebe who is in the same age bracket.
 
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I always approach this thread with the youth coming up or players fulfilling the promise at the back of my mind so in that vein, for the attack, I would suggest a No.10 and a right sided attacker to come in and compliment Memphis, Martial, Januzaj and Lingard who should be primarily playing as starters on the left and back up in three other forward roles. In midfield if Carrick plays on for one more season then we'd be ok whilst I would like to see one of Jones and Blind growing to form a formidable defensive partnership with Smalling so I'd keep things as they are.
I feel it's important that we get a No.10 who is more of ball career, creative type than a support striker. More Silva/Isco less Rooney/Muller who are primarily goal scorers. The winger should be in the Hazard mould but more prolific, if possible. Imo the type of football we are playing now means we need players that can disorganise defenses through dribbling or see the one pass that would tear the defense to shreds, something we do not have right now.
 
Drop Rooney, new manager, CB, winger and a striker and I'd reckon we would dominate English football again
 
Just a new manager. And by new manager I mean the very best available at all costs
 
Carlo or Pep please. I'll wait for Pep until the summer and put up with Van Gaal's shit, if that's not on the cards bring in Carlo right now.
 
It really is pretty hard to get excited about signing anyone right now, LvG is just killing it so much for me that I can't even dream about other teams players anymore.

i just hope he sees the light beacause we're stuck with him for a good while yet.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It really is pretty hard to get excited about signing anyone right now, LvG is just killing it so much for me that I can't even dream about other teams players anymore.

i just hope he sees the light beacause we're stuck with him for a good while yet.
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CM10 said:
£50m for a central defender is silly money. If Stones was the best defender in the world, perhaps you would pay that.

Obviously he still has room to improve but there are flaws in his game that don't get picked up on as they would if he were at United. He isn't so much of an improvement that he's worth investing anywhere near that amount of money for him.
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Mangala and Luiz are two defenders who went for around that price recently.

A less proven 19 year old Shaw was £30m two years ago.

They rejected £40m for him in the summer. He has since had an excellent season further demonstrating his massive potential.

I would happily take him for £50m. He could be our CB for the next ten years.
 
I'd have thought last summer would be our last high spending transfer window for a short while. Its sad that we are in the same position again, needing 3-4 top players that will cost another fortune.

A striker and a winger should be our priority, and a center back would be good too.
 
I don't think there's any chance of Stones moving. Everton already rejected £40m, he'll have improved by the end of the season and the TV money goes up in summer. I'd look elsewhere at someone like Laporte, or Rugani if he's ready for the step up.

Midfield we need to let Carrick go and bring in another CM, if Gundogan is available for a decent price then I'd take him, Pereira should also be given more game time next season.

We're crying out for a RW with pace, someone like Mane, Sane or possibly bring in Embolo (can play as a ST too which LvG will like).

Upfront we need to let Rooney go, I'm sure we'll try and fail to bring in Kane. We also have the likes of Wilson and Januzaj coming back off loan, I'm not sure if either will be ready to lead the line for United though.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Mangala and Luiz are two defenders who went for around that price recently.

A less proven 19 year old Shaw was £30m two years ago.

They rejected £40m for him in the summer. He has since had an excellent season further demonstrating his massive potential.

I would happily take him for £50m. He could be our CB for the next ten years.
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His value to Everton doesn't necessarily match up to our valuation of the player. Of course Everton will value him highly when he is one of their most important players and they don't have to sell.

My point is that I don't think we can justify paying that much money for a central defender unless they are truly world class, which Stones is not. Smalling is now one of the best defenders in the league, Blind has been excellent for the most part this season and Jones is a very capable step-in. All of whom are at ages where they're not likely to move on anytime soon.

The key difference with Shaw was that Evra moving on was a distinct possibility and we didn't have any other viable options at left-back. Buying Shaw made a massive amount of difference to the strength of that position, I don't think the same can be said for Stones.
 
I'd love the club to go for Gundogan. It's a shame about Strootman.
Gundogan, Herrera, Strootman, Schneiderlin (+ Carrick + 1) would have been a great set of options. That's what I'd love to have seen, ideally.

As for upfront - I like Lukaku. He seems to have a few more fans here, all of a sudden... whereas nobody seemed to like him a few months ago.
His overall play might not be Lewandowski-level, or even close, but he's GUARANTEED to score goals wherever he plays. And he's built to dominate this league. He'd score 20+ without any question, if he joined next summer. And he'd keep that rate up for years.
I can't think of any other striker not already at top teams who is as sure to score goals.

And then probably a centre-back. Maybe a right back. And obviously a tricky wide man for the right side.
 
Speak said:
I'd love the club to go for Gundogan. It's a shame about Strootman.
Gundogan, Herrera, Strootman, Schneiderlin (+ Carrick + 1) would have been a great set of options. That's what I'd love to have seen, ideally.

As for upfront - I like Lukaku. He seems to have a few more fans here, all of a sudden... whereas nobody seemed to like him a few months ago.
His overall play might not be Lewandowski-level, or even close, but he's GUARANTEED to score goals wherever he plays. And he's built to dominate this league. He'd score 20+ without any question, if he joined next summer. And he'd keep that rate up for years.
I can't think of any other striker not already at top teams who is as sure to score goals.

And then probably a centre-back. Maybe a right back. And obviously a tricky wide man for the right side.
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Lukaku is a perfect striker for a counter attacking team. He needs to have space to run behind players. When playing for the Belgian NT, he rarely makes a good impression as Belgium almost always are the team with the most possesion. Not sure about him here.

Batshuayi will be Belgian's main striker for years to come, if Wilmots gives him a chance. Strong, scores a lot of goals, very good technical skills.
 
Mane for now. Striker too imo. Then a world class addition in January. Recalling Adnan or Wilson would make sense.

Having said that, getting a world class player in January is difficult. Summer for that thn.
 
A world class physiotherapist has to be the first hit on the target list.
 
onemanarmy said:
Lukaku is a perfect striker for a counter attacking team. He needs to have space to run behind players. When playing for the Belgian NT, he rarely makes a good impression as Belgium almost always are the team with the most possesion. Not sure about him here.

Batshuayi will be Belgian's main striker for years to come, if Wilmots gives him a chance. Strong, scores a lot of goals, very good technical skills.
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from. I haven't watched him for Belgium at all, really. Are they actually a good side? Is it fair to judge him based off the Belgium team?

I was under the impression that he's leaner and fitter than before, and has started to tidy his game up a bit these days, with his hold up play improving quite a bit. I feel he can still score lots of goals in a good possession team. Obviously he'll always be pretty limited, though.
The key would be to get dribblers around him, and have him focused on just scoring. He's not somebody who needs precise delivery. And someone like Martial bouncing off him could work, in my opinion.

You're probably right, though. He may just be too limited, and not good enough technically.
 
Van Gaal has repeated his desire for signings in January. He's said it in almost every press conference in the last month. I'm convinced we will do business.
 
If reports are correct, Griezmann had a very reasonable buyout clause of around £50m.

If that is the case, we can buy him in January regardless of whether the club wants to sell.

No brainer.

Woody said in a conference call with shareholders at the start of the season he expected there to be a normalizing in terms of numbers in/out. After watching this season, I hope and expect he has changed his position.

Brand "Man Utd" simply cannot continue with this directory, atrocious, entertainment-devoid football and lack of any star player. We haven't even got one and our peers have several each.
 
KingMinger22 said:
If reports are correct, Griezmann had a very reasonable buyout clause of around £50m.

If that is the case, we can buy him in January regardless of whether the club wants to sell.

No brainer.

Woody said in a conference call with shareholders at the start of the season he expected there to be a normalizing in terms of numbers in/out. After watching this season, I hope and expect he has changed his position.

Brand "Man Utd" simply cannot continue with this directory, atrocious, entertainment-devoid football and lack of any star player. We haven't even got one and our peers have several each.
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PedroMendez said:
Griezmann won´t leave in January. He´ll stay at least till summer.
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We should have bought Griezmann earlier in the summer before Atletico upped his clause to €80m.
He is exactly the type of player we should be going for and he is a MUFC fan to boot.
 
"Sources have told ESPN FC that the club's scouts are currently trying to identify the right all-action central midfielder, although they may be prepared to wait until the summer."

--------Martial--------- (Rooney)
Memphis--------Mata (Lingard, Young)
--ActionMan--Herrera (Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Pereira)
------Schneiderlin----- (Carrick)

That actually looks reasonable for the 2nd half of the summer if you squint. Also on D either there needs to be a signing or one of Rojo/McNair/Jones needs to have a very, very good 2nd half next to Blind, Smalling and the rightbacks.
 
NoPace said:
"Sources have told ESPN FC that the club's scouts are currently trying to identify the right all-action central midfielder, although they may be prepared to wait until the summer."
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ESPN have their own football club? And the answer to our quest is Gundogan.
 
Speak said:
I'd love the club to go for Gundogan. It's a shame about Strootman.
Gundogan, Herrera, Strootman, Schneiderlin (+ Carrick + 1) would have been a great set of options. That's what I'd love to have seen, ideally.
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Gündogan is still possible in the summer; I'm convinced he won't stay at Dortmund. He may prefer a La Liga club if someone is interested in signing him but the deal he had agreed upon last summer shows he considered United to be a valid option.
 
"Sky sources also understand United will be heavily active in the transfer market next summer, but will not be drawn into spending big money in the upcoming January transfer window."

Thank feck.

I actually think this summer will be our biggest spending window ever.

We need at least 3, if not 4, top draw players.

Kane, Stones, Griezmann and Mane would be good.

Get rid of Fellaini, Rooney, Jones, etc.
 
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