Ya, I forecast the same. We’ll sign 2 players probably and a few departures.Expect to be disappointed.
We won't get half of what we need for a title challenge.
Ya, I forecast the same. We’ll sign 2 players probably and a few departures.Expect to be disappointed.
We won't get half of what we need for a title challenge.
I would love this and would be willing to pay a crazy amount, but I don't think it is a possibility.Would it be impossible to sign Son? Watched him vs Colombia and he never fails to impress me, although he needs to pass it a bit more.
Massive is right. Need to drop £250m+
We need to strengthen with some top players. The positions I would add are:
- A quality center back (~60m)
- A back-up Left back (or a starting right back if Dalot is not deemed good enough to start next season) (~20m)
- A quality holding midfielder or central midfielder with good passing range. (~50m)
- A quality player who can play on the right side of the attack. (~80m)
- A versatile attacker who can play across the front line. (Wouldn't mind some one like Brooks) (~30m)
I feel we should always have top British players in our squad. Sancho & Brooks would be awesome; both have top potential. How good is Rice? Haven't seen much of him, but we should get him if he is good with the potential to get to the top. Can be an option at both DM & CB.
Generate money/free up with the wages by getting rid of:
- Bailly
- Rojo
- Darmian
- Sanchez
- Pereira
- Valencia
- Mata
- Fosu-Mensah
- Wilson
City did 6 in Pep's year 2 by spending 260 net. After our savings last year and the leverage of Pogba and De Gea, I say we just whip it out and put it right on the table by bringing in 6-8 new players. Why not?
Edit: And it's too much in midfield right now. Rabiot or Ndombele. Prefer Ndombele but if it was Rabiot, then the board would have accomplished an incredible window from a value perspective considering net spend.
Agreed, but that’s why I think a deal that gets us 3 players from Real, in exchange for Pogba and De Gea is a way to save a ton of money.£250m is nearly enough though.
That's Sancho and a top CB.
Which would be a great start but we need another attacker and a CM at the absolute minimum.
Agreed, but that’s why I think a deal that gets us 3 players from Real, in exchange for Pogba and De Gea is a way to save a ton of money.
Oh?I hope you self combust.
What if:
- Pogba and De Gea could get their moves to Madrid and we could get back Courtois, Bale and Varane? Mind you, I wouldn't want anything to do with them if they were only coming reluctantly like Di Maria. But I just like the certainty of getting players back for them, as opposed to a chunk of cash, which leads to inflated transfer fees on top of our already inflated fees.
- Rabiot AND Rakitic (probably end up with both of them for no more than 40M) AND Neves/Ndombele (~50M). Lose Pogba and yet the technical ability of our midfield goes up several levels right away. Still have Herrera, Matic, Fred, etc. for outstanding depth.
- Sancho (there's our push for young English talent)
- Meunier (relatively cheap. RB is sorted for years)
CourtoisI don't care how crazy that all sounds (and yes I know nothing like this is likely to happen), but I feel it's the type of team we need to really challenge. And I feel it could actually be achieved for under 200M after player sales. With Pogba, De Gea and Sanchez off the books, we could reset our wage structure again also.
Meunier - Varane - Lindelof - Shaw
Ndombele - Herrera - Rabiot
Bale - Lukaku - Rashford
Subs: Sancho, Martial, Dalot, Smalling, Neves, Rakitic, Romero
£250m is nearly enough though.
That's Sancho and a top CB.
Which would be a great start but we need another attacker and a CM at the absolute minimum.
I don't think any CB is worth over a £100m and neither is Sancho. £60m-£70m max for a CB & £80m-£90m max for Sancho. That'll leave enough room for a couple other signings. Won't mind if we pick up a player or two on cheap. What is the point of a scouting department if we only make obvious signings.
Looks good.From all the rumours of who we seem to be seriously interested in:
CB: Koulibaly (muppet want would be De Ligt though)
RB: Wan Bissaka
DM: Rice
AM/MF: Bruno Fernandes
RW: Jadon Sancho
LW: Hudson Odoi
Sell/Release:
CB: Rojo, Bailly
RB: Valencia
MF: Andreas
RW: Mata
LW: Sanchez
Team options for the new season:
GK: DDG, Romero, Grant
RB: Dalot, Wan Bissaka (TFM?)
LB: Shaw, Young
CB: Koulibaly (De Ligt?), Smalling, Lindelof, Jones, Tuanzebe
DM: Rice, Matic
CM: Herrera, Fred, McTominay
AM: Bruno Fernandes, Pogba
RW: Sancho, Lingard
LW: Martial, Hudson Odoi
ST: Rashford, Lukaku
-----------------------DDG------------------------
Dalot-------Lindelof-----Koulibaly-----Shaw
----------------------Rice-------------------------
----------Fernandes-------Pogba--------------
---Sancho--------Rashford--------Martial----
Hilarious to think Sancho will be pried away from Dortmund for less than Dembele cost.
Do you realise it's a near identical situation?
Sancho and Dembele both have had one season at Dortmund. However, so far Sancho's stats are actually slightly better.
£140m is the precedent. It will not be a penny less.
I can't believe with these obvious facts that this is even discussed.
It's 2019 mate.
If we want to fix every problem in the squad we’d need a CB, RB, DM, creative CM and a RW.
Realistically this summer I think a RB and RW are possible. I’m not sure we’ll go for a DM with Garner coming up from the youth team. Solskjaer saying he could be the new Carrick is high praise.
I’m also not convinced we’ll go all out for a CB unless they are unquestionably world class.
The only way I see us moving for a creative midfielder is if Pogba/Herrera leaves.
So really I think we’ll have at least two first team signings but even RB one could argue Dalot should have the chance to make that position his own. The only gaping hole we have is RW where nobody at academy level or currently in the squad appears able to take up that role and make it their own. So for me the priority has to be Sancho or someone of that ilk.
Buy Zaha for RF or RW, then you can play either 433 or 442 with Martial and Rasford as striker and Zaha as RW. He may be cheaper than Sancho which BVB said he won't be on the market this summer.
Absolutely no to this. No half measures any more. Either we buy world class players or the very best prospects. This club needs to get it right from now on. Ole’s first summer transfer window will be crucial.
Zaha is a good player on his day, but not good enough for Manchester United.
Only a RB and a RW and we will be fighting for 4th next season!
That would mean that with Feillani leaving we would have lost 7 first team players. Two of these can be replaced by Youth rotation of which is Timothy Fosu Mensah, S McTominay, M Greenwood, E Laird, T Chong and Angel Gomez. The other 5 are obvious new positions to fill this window; Elite CB, FB/WB, CDM, RWS, No 10/Marquee.
If we have to buy 4 or 5 players and only have £250M with player Sales then it's clear thar Ole will be looking at Value, Character, Age and more importantly they understand the size and responsibility of playing for the Club.
So although listed below may be most fans wish list, it is highly unlikely to happen.
Koulibaly -120M, J Sancho 90M, W Bissaka 35M, M Veratti or C Ericssen 90M, P Dyballa P Coutinho 110M, it's just not going to happen!
More likely is a transfer window finishing something like this; T Audeirweld or K Manolas 25M, W Bissaka or T Meunier £35M, H Lozano, C Hudson or W Zaha £45M, A Rabiot Free and P Dyballa or A Griezmann £110M.
One of the latter 2 will be a marquee signing made simply to keep Pogba happy and stop him joing Madrid.
Even if we are buying just 3 players, they have to be starters, no average players or players who might make the step upIn turth, I think we need 5 or 6 starters if no one good leaves. Since that is impossible to do we must buy 4 starters imo.
Good analysis, however I am not convinced about your reasoning regarding the unlikelihood versus the likelihood of some of the transfers happening.Ole is a lot smarter than people think in the transfer market and he's red through and through, little gestures like consoling Calum Hudson Odoi after we beat them in the cup. This is his dream job and like Sir Alex, class of 92 and Mike Phelan they have all been looking from a far thinking how to resolve the issues at the club;
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- Too many Foreign Mercenaries
- Team is aging and not mobile enough
- The Wage bill is not reflective of the teams success on the field
- The Team no longer has that central core of British players of 6 or 7 players that understand what Manchester United represents
- Lacks genuine leadership
- Lacks Midfield creativity
- lacks genuine width and trickery
- Squad is imbalanced Age, Position
If we have to buy 4 or 5 players and only have £250M with player Sales then it's clear thar Ole will be looking at Value, Character, Age and more importantly they understand the size and responsibility of playing for the Club.
So although listed below may be most fans wish list, it is highly unlikely to happen.
Koulibaly -120M, J Sancho 90M, W Bissaka 35M, M Veratti or C Ericssen 90M, P Dyballa P Coutinho 110M, it's just not going to happen!
More likely is a transfer window finishing something like this; T Audeirweld or K Manolas 25M, W Bissaka or T Meunier £35M, H Lozano, C Hudson or W Zaha £45M, A Rabiot Free and P Dyballa or A Griezmann £110M.
One of the latter 2 will be a marquee signing made simply to keep Pogba happy and stop him joing Madrid.
I mean yea that's it right there. And if Herrera is leaving then you try and add Rabiot for free or Rakitic as just an inexpensive but solid short-term fix.Rb: Meunier £25
Cb: Alderweireld £25
Cm: Neves £50
Rw: Sancho £80
Cf: Felix £70
Giddy up.
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