For me this is where we have failed for a few summers, selling players. We managed to get rid of a few last summer, only because they were out of contract and a good 2/3 of them should certainly hav ebeen sold for a tidy profit a summer or two earlier.
But not even just those players you mention there is Tuanzabe, Williams, Telles, Jones.
I still feel we could have made one more signing and had a net spend under half of what we spent in the summer
Yeah, and the reasons for this is probably several, among others:
*Too high expectations on what our players are worth
*We haven’t bought modern players in many instances, player types other team wants. If we would have been selling a ball playing left footed CB 1-2 years ago it would have been really easy. Instead we tried to sell Eric Bailly…
*We haven’t made players better, it’s not a quality stamp to buy a United player like it is to buy a Barca, Real or City player
*Our team has been dysfunctional and hence players haven’t performed well, they haven’t been put in an environment they can succeed in
Salaries are talked about a lot. But I don’t really buy it. It’s a bad excuse. When a player is sold you tear apart his old contract. The transfer only goes through if the player signs a new contract with the buying team. If we are selling a player that should be worth 25m that is making 7.5m per year for 3 years, and the standard wage for the player at the new club is 2.5m, the buying team should still be willing to buy the player for 10m, sign him to a contract that gives the player 2.5m in salaries per year, and give the player 15m in a sign on fee. I don’t know, reality is not always logical, but it’s not the whole story.
Facts are that the way our club has been operated, strongly signals that management (especially Woodward and Ole) haven’t been in touch with reality. Teams put a tax on when we want to buy a player, asks for more from us than others, teams are willing to pay us less than others. Sounds like excuses a 11 y/o comes up with. Negotiations are all about leverage, almost entirely about having leverage. If someone came to us in January wanting to buy Martinez — we would set a silly price. 100-120m. Martinez wouldn’t force his way out. What do we do if Real comes knocking offering 30m for Garnacho in mid June 2023 and Garnacho say that he will not sign a new contract but go for free to Real in 2024 if we don’t take Real’s offer,l. Then we sell for 30, we don’t ask for 100m. It’s all a matter of timing and picking your spots. Not punshing above your weight class.
I think that you should be — extremely cautious — to not sell a player you want to sell at one point, because you think value is low and that the value should only go up if you just wait. Again, it’s just childish, naive. We could reportedly have sold AWB for 15m. If we now lend him to Wolves and he plays most games ahead of Semedo, will he all of a sudden be worth 30m? In our dreams. People know AWB, he isn’t exactly an unknown entity. Sure he was out of form like most of our team second half of last season, but managers and coaches of other teams aren’t like some fans who turn on a player due to whatever type of temporary poor showing. If the the highest bid for AWB was 15m last summer, that shows that other managers don’t think that highly of him. And they know perfectly well what type of player he is and what quality he has. Sure prices can fluctuate, perhaps you get a little less or a little more if you wait. And there might exist a situation where it makes more sense to wait, perhaps. But they should in any event be very very rare and definitely the exception not the norm.
Woodward have always overrated our guys and thought he could get more by waiting — it doesn’t work. You don’t understand football if you think like that. Like do we think Ten Hag works like that? He takes a good long hard look at a player he have seen year in and year out in the Dutch league and comes to the conclusion that he don’t want him, then the same player plays well for Wolves for 3 months, and all of a sudden ETH will change his mind and want to pay 30m for this player?
We must sell players next summer. The only sane way to go about that is to declare that the players in question will be sold, let interest clubs submit their bids, take the highest bid and see if you can get more from that club or any other interested club — and then you accept the best bid you can get.
Let’s say we are to sell Maguire. 4 teams are interested. Maguire looks at them and rules out 2. Then there are two left, perhaps we can get 30m, perhaps we can get 10-15m. I don’t know.
But it is what it is. Then we must determine if it’s worth it for us to sell him, or if we should keep him because for example otherwise we must replace him with a 15m player or whatever. But under — no circumstance — should we go, damn all other managers just don’t understand how good Maguire is, let’s loan him to another clubs so they can see his magnificent, then they will surely pay 40+m for him. Woodward don’t know anything about football. He might think this is how managers work. It doesn’t really matter if he plays great for anyone for 6 months. You know what you get if you buy Maguire if you are a good competent manager of an elite football team. It’s naive and childish to think seeing Maguire play 12 months on loan to like Everton will change a manager of Everton or West Ham’s mind. It really is not in touch with reality.