We don’t need a decade after a few billion is spent, we just need to get the big decision right ?
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We don’t need a decade after a few billion is spent, we just need to get the big decision right ?
Don't think David and Nkunku are the profile of striker we need, not totally different to what we have already.
If you look at the strikers we've been in for. Nunez, Arnautovic, Kalajdzic... we;re looking at bigger/stronger more classic 9's. We need somebody like that, someone who can play back to goal and hold up a ball if needed.
Which one of that type do you think we can go after?
ten Hag played with Haller so it makes sense he'll look for that type of profile.
Victor Osimhen from Napoli is the obvious one we've been linked with. Other than that i'm not a scout, but i don't see the point in replacing a Martial with another Martial type player. Sesko was another one we were linked with, but he signed with Leizpig for next season.
Osimhen was signed for 70M with Napoli. Knowing their managment and how they sold Higuain and what they asked for Koulibally a couple of years back they wont be accepting anything below 120M. Which is a ridiculous amount.
The problem with Martial is that he's become so injury prone that you just cant rely on him. I know about Ten Hag liking tall strong strikers like Haller, but I there arent many of those. In fact there is a striker crisis looking for options god damn besides the obvious ones like Lewandowski, Benzema, Haaland, theres not much else.
Doesn't seem like we were after Kaladzijc, 15M pounds to Wolves and he doesn't seem to be a Mendes client.
But yeah, a big strong 9 makes sense. Shame Mitrovic just signed a 5 year deal.
Daly Mail saying we've done our business for this window... let's hope that's the usual bollox from a bollox-talking paper. we need centre forward now (need a couple of other positions too but that is totally unrealistic right now)
Robert Sanchez from Brighton to replace de Gea next season.
That Soton CB and CM look good!
Reeks of desperation I know, but with there no being no proper strikers in the market at the moment we may need draft Rashford into striker when Ronaldo and Martial are unfit or out of form.
Jose Sa for me, though Wolves would probably want a small fortune, so Sanchez or Raya would be good alternatives.
Sell lindelof sign him
I think our negotiators would pay through the nose for all of them to be fair. Jose Sa I think has the longest time remaining on his contract but is the oldest. All good options but would love Sanchez. Towering keeper around 6'6" who can play out from the back.
This guy is quality. Not watching this game in particular but from his recent games, he’s shown he can be a class defender. His passes are always well hit. Was a massive threat in that game v pool.
Would love him here but he’s not pushing neither Lisandro or Varane out the way, def would have him over our other options though.
Ideally, FdJ and Osimhen before the deadline, then back in for EtH's first RB choice, Timber in January, followed next summer with a youngish world class GK to replace de Gea and an additional CB if required.
Ridiculously unlikely I know, but the additional outlay now would allow the team to develop more quickly, increasing the chances of securing Champions League football for next season, and let's face it, that is vital this year.
It would also give us a whole year to properly scout for and prepare the transfer for de Gea's replacement, which is a bonus as we need to get that transfer right, and if we do, just the one major signing means not too big a financial outlay, which would compensate for this year's extra spending, even with the additional CB if needed.
Ridiculously unlikely I know, but the additional outlay now would allow the team to develop more quickly, increasing the chances of securing Champions League football for next season, and let's face it, that is vital this year.
It would also give us a whole year to properly scout for and prepare the transfer for de Gea's replacement, which is a bonus as we need to get that transfer right, and if we do, just the one major signing means not too big a financial outlay, which would compensate for this year's extra spending, even with the additional CB if needed.
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So, going into next season, I'd guess we look like this:
---------------------------------#9(Martial)----------------------------------------------------
Sancho(Rashford)---Bruno(VDB)-----------Antony(Garnacho) but Sancho is the actual RW backup
--------------------#8(Eriksen)-Casemiro(McTominay)----------------
Malacia(Shaw)-Lisandro(Lindelof)-Varane(RCB)--------RB(Dalot)
--------------------------------GK(Dubravka)--------------------------------------------
and Cristiano, Fred, Maguire and anyone else not mentioned over the age of 22 all leave. Elanga, Zidane Iqbal or Hannibal, one of the fullbacks (Williams, Laird or Alvaro) and maybe a CB gets promoted along with a 3rd keeper. That's a squad of 26 plus another young player or two who makes it.
So, that's a 9 and #8, a starting RB or at least real competition for Dalot, a young RCB with potential to backup and in time hopefully replace Varane and a starting GK.
Seems doable. Wouldn't be shocked if the RB is signed in January with Wan-Bissaka going out.
At the minute, I'd guess this based on rumours and educated guesses, though it will be wrong:
#9 - Osihmen
#8 - Koopmeiners, Dutch and is left-footed which might help with balance, he's doing well at Atalanta and they'll sell
RCB - No idea, though the Bundesliga seems to have a lot of these guys coming up after starting in Ligue 1
RB- Timber (would be a 3rd very expensive signing but that seems plausible)
GK - Robert Sanchez from Brighton, who will want to play for a bigger team to get a real shot at starting for Spain and Brighton will probably lose him and another key player like Mac Allister, Caicedo or Trossard for big fees
---------------------------------#9(Martial)----------------------------------------------------
Sancho(Rashford)---Bruno(VDB)-----------Antony(Garnacho) but Sancho is the actual RW backup
--------------------#8(Eriksen)-Casemiro(McTominay)----------------
Malacia(Shaw)-Lisandro(Lindelof)-Varane(RCB)--------RB(Dalot)
--------------------------------GK(Dubravka)--------------------------------------------
and Cristiano, Fred, Maguire and anyone else not mentioned over the age of 22 all leave. Elanga, Zidane Iqbal or Hannibal, one of the fullbacks (Williams, Laird or Alvaro) and maybe a CB gets promoted along with a 3rd keeper. That's a squad of 26 plus another young player or two who makes it.
So, that's a 9 and #8, a starting RB or at least real competition for Dalot, a young RCB with potential to backup and in time hopefully replace Varane and a starting GK.
Seems doable. Wouldn't be shocked if the RB is signed in January with Wan-Bissaka going out.
At the minute, I'd guess this based on rumours and educated guesses, though it will be wrong:
#9 - Osihmen
#8 - Koopmeiners, Dutch and is left-footed which might help with balance, he's doing well at Atalanta and they'll sell
RCB - No idea, though the Bundesliga seems to have a lot of these guys coming up after starting in Ligue 1
RB- Timber (would be a 3rd very expensive signing but that seems plausible)
GK - Robert Sanchez from Brighton, who will want to play for a bigger team to get a real shot at starting for Spain and Brighton will probably lose him and another key player like Mac Allister, Caicedo or Trossard for big fees
Still need a striker, CM, RB and GK. A young CB also if Maguire leaves.
Could potentially do that in the next two windows if we’re smart (and not mess around trying to get 1 player all summer).
GK: Mike Maignan from AC Milan. Probably around £50m.
RB: Timber or Malo Gusto. Looking at another £50m either way.
CM: FDJ if he’s available and wants to join. Otherwise Bellingham (if he fits ETHs mould) or maybe Neves. Or get scouting now for someone else! £50 to £70m in any case.
Striker: the most difficult position as there’s barely anyone out there. Osimhen potentially although that’s £100m. If we’re spending that much may as well test for Joao Felix. Otherwise Jonathan David or Amine Gouiri are cheaper options. Sesko’s going to Leipzig or he would’ve been first choice.
Could potentially do that in the next two windows if we’re smart (and not mess around trying to get 1 player all summer).
GK: Mike Maignan from AC Milan. Probably around £50m.
RB: Timber or Malo Gusto. Looking at another £50m either way.
CM: FDJ if he’s available and wants to join. Otherwise Bellingham (if he fits ETHs mould) or maybe Neves. Or get scouting now for someone else! £50 to £70m in any case.
Striker: the most difficult position as there’s barely anyone out there. Osimhen potentially although that’s £100m. If we’re spending that much may as well test for Joao Felix. Otherwise Jonathan David or Amine Gouiri are cheaper options. Sesko’s going to Leipzig or he would’ve been first choice.
RB, CB (backup - Maguire's got to go but how we shift his wages I have no idea), CM (no 8), and a striker.
Felix is not prolific enough. We have Antony, Sancho, Fernandes and Eriksen, who are all very creative, and we need a traditional number 9 to stick the ball in the back of the net. Osimhen and Sesko are the two standout candidates once we have removed Haaland from the equation. If we are going for a number 10 or false 9, I would sooner try Nkunku than Felix.
All looks reasonably sensible. If we bring Timber in as right back, but we need cover at RCB, we could see Timber moving across and Dalot filling in at right back, similar to how Sancho may be first choice left winger, but he doubles as Antony's cover on the right, with either Rashford or Garnacho slotting in on the left. If we recreate the Ajax centre back pairing of Martinez and Timber, the height police will have a field day!!!!
GK
RB
ST
Young CB
Give minutes to the likes of Iqbal and Garnacho to see if they can make the step up.
Get rid of Maguire or Lindelof, Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams, AWB, Van de Beek, Ronaldo.
RB
ST
Young CB
Give minutes to the likes of Iqbal and Garnacho to see if they can make the step up.
Get rid of Maguire or Lindelof, Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams, AWB, Van de Beek, Ronaldo.
A lot of it will depend on how this season goes now. We can’t be paying the best part of £350k a week combined to Shaw and Maguire to be backups. We’ll have some calls to make on those 2, Fred and Rashford given the latter 2s contract situations, as next summer would be the last chance to sell if we decide they’re not good enough / wages too high for their squad positions.
We may end up needing 2 goalkeepers, another 2 new full backs, another left footed cb, a midfielder, a striker and I think ideally ETH will want another attacker who is left footed and does his best work from the right. We have the numbers in the squad now but it’s about seeing who can play ETHs style as well as, for those deemed not good enough, who can actually be sold or released next summer to make way for upgrades
We may end up needing 2 goalkeepers, another 2 new full backs, another left footed cb, a midfielder, a striker and I think ideally ETH will want another attacker who is left footed and does his best work from the right. We have the numbers in the squad now but it’s about seeing who can play ETHs style as well as, for those deemed not good enough, who can actually be sold or released next summer to make way for upgrades
For the umpteenth time, Jones is injured throughout a transfer window..!
I think that daft contract finally expires next year....
Striker in the summer.
I think we'll go back in for Timber too.
I think we'll go back in for Timber too.
Not that much tbh, we gad a solid window. Midfielder and striker will be key to add though
Won’t Kane only have 1 year left?
For the umpteenth time, Jones is injured throughout a transfer window..!
I think that daft contract finally expires next year....
Is he injured again after coming back and playing for us last season?
No team should ever stop adding quality however to fix the current squad we need the below.
Buy 2 Strikers and sell Martial let Ronaldo leave, 1 Young and Learning.
Sell Maguire buy a defender, Sell Lindelof promote from within if possible.
Sell VDB buy De Jong.
Buy another World Class Wide Man.
Sell AWB and buy 1 right back.
New GoalKeeper
———————New Striker——————
New Winger—-Bruno————-Antony
——————De Jong—Casemiro——-
Malacia——Varane—Martinez—NEW RB
————————New Goalkeeper———-
Rashford, Sancho, Ericksen, Fred, Mctominay, MENGI?, Dalot, Garnacho, New Striker, New Defender, Heaton.
Then we just manage the squad.
Buy 2 Strikers and sell Martial let Ronaldo leave, 1 Young and Learning.
Sell Maguire buy a defender, Sell Lindelof promote from within if possible.
Sell VDB buy De Jong.
Buy another World Class Wide Man.
Sell AWB and buy 1 right back.
New GoalKeeper
———————New Striker——————
New Winger—-Bruno————-Antony
——————De Jong—Casemiro——-
Malacia——Varane—Martinez—NEW RB
————————New Goalkeeper———-
Rashford, Sancho, Ericksen, Fred, Mctominay, MENGI?, Dalot, Garnacho, New Striker, New Defender, Heaton.
Then we just manage the squad.
Nothing
Another 100 players obviously
Diego Costa is a free agent…
We have a load of players out of contract next Summer, and that will also have a major bearing on transfer activity.
Rashford, Shaw, Ronaldo, Fred, Dalot, De Gea, Tuanzebe, Jones & Heaton.
Be interesting to see, which we try to sell, who is let go, who runs their contract down, and who gets a renewal.
Rashford, Shaw, Ronaldo, Fred, Dalot, De Gea, Tuanzebe, Jones & Heaton.
Be interesting to see, which we try to sell, who is let go, who runs their contract down, and who gets a renewal.
I think it expires until 2024.
If we're smart well keep only Dalot from that lot.
Rashford, Shaw and Fred got a lot to prove if they want new deals.
The big money, probably the majority of our budget, will go on a striker next summer. Ronaldo will go and we will need to buy goals, and that won't come cheap.
After that we'll need RB, GK and possibly a midfielder (FDJ?), but whether we need to buy them or not depends on the performance of youth players and loanees.
Assuming the Glazers still own the club, I can see us spending £80-90m on a striker and any other new players will be mostly financed off sales.
After that we'll need RB, GK and possibly a midfielder (FDJ?), but whether we need to buy them or not depends on the performance of youth players and loanees.
Assuming the Glazers still own the club, I can see us spending £80-90m on a striker and any other new players will be mostly financed off sales.
next summer's priorities must be a world-class goal-scorer No.9 and an all-round better goalkeeper. Then probably another full back and strengthening in midfield to make the squad stronger. I still don't think the squad is good enough to really challenge for much
A more poegressive midfielder to pair with Casemiro.
Eriksen shouldn't be playing 60 games a season and there is no other option who is as progressive as he is.
An Elite Striker. Easier said then done.
A RB that better fits Antony. Let's see if Dalot can do it.
Agree with the mentions of Sanchez to replace De Gea as well.
Eriksen shouldn't be playing 60 games a season and there is no other option who is as progressive as he is.
An Elite Striker. Easier said then done.
A RB that better fits Antony. Let's see if Dalot can do it.
Agree with the mentions of Sanchez to replace De Gea as well.
We need a reliable striker and a FdJ equivalent if we cannot get him.
Then we will be in a position to challenge for the title.
Rashford is hit and miss literally.
Martial is more often injured than available.
Elanga is a ways off.
And Ronaldo does not start for a reason.
We still need a playmaker in midfield. Why EtH was desperate for FdJ.
Then we will be in a position to challenge for the title.
Rashford is hit and miss literally.
Martial is more often injured than available.
Elanga is a ways off.
And Ronaldo does not start for a reason.
We still need a playmaker in midfield. Why EtH was desperate for FdJ.
A ST, RB, CM, GK
All for first team
Than we can look at backup LB (assuming Shaw does not get renewed), backup CB and maybe CM or LW depends on Fred & Rashford
Someone homegrown probably needs to be signed as well ?
Hopefully some youngsters come good, would be cool if Garnacho & Mejbri can legitimately claim minutes so we don't have to shop to replace all.
Hope to see some of these as possibilities but there will definitely be some new names toutes as future stars as the season moves on and some of the positions just feel like there is slim pickings of quality right now
GK: Sanchez - Brighton / Maignan (Milan) / Costo (Porto)
RB: Vanderson (Monaco) / Gusto (Lyon)
CM: FDJ (Barcelona) / Bellingham (Dortmund, believe he will sign for Liverpool)
ST: Nkunku (Leipzig) / Osimhen (Napoli)
All for first team
Than we can look at backup LB (assuming Shaw does not get renewed), backup CB and maybe CM or LW depends on Fred & Rashford
Someone homegrown probably needs to be signed as well ?
Hopefully some youngsters come good, would be cool if Garnacho & Mejbri can legitimately claim minutes so we don't have to shop to replace all.
Hope to see some of these as possibilities but there will definitely be some new names toutes as future stars as the season moves on and some of the positions just feel like there is slim pickings of quality right now
GK: Sanchez - Brighton / Maignan (Milan) / Costo (Porto)
RB: Vanderson (Monaco) / Gusto (Lyon)
CM: FDJ (Barcelona) / Bellingham (Dortmund, believe he will sign for Liverpool)
ST: Nkunku (Leipzig) / Osimhen (Napoli)
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Same as the above posters views I think you look at current first team options and De Gea, Dalot, Eriksen and Martial while good players are either stylistically not right, not reliable enough or just short of the quality needed.
In one more summer I think realistically we could fill those spots. I don’t have glaring concerns for other positions.
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Same as the above posters views I think you look at current first team options and De Gea, Dalot, Eriksen and Martial while good players are either stylistically not right, not reliable enough or just short of the quality needed.
In one more summer I think realistically we could fill those spots. I don’t have glaring concerns for other positions.