If she carries on burying her head, then a vote of no confidence is surely incoming.
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Video footage found of Truss' interviews this morning
I'm giving her until end of November. She'll be gone by then if things stay as they are and they continue on the same course. Energy bills will have gone up, mortgage rates will have also increased and cost of living will have gotten worse.
it will be the classic 12 months and then find a reason to get rid.
'1 month makes it look like our feck up, 12 months its your feck up'
'1 month makes it look like our feck up, 12 months its your feck up'
starmer is going to have to sign up to a host of commitments which will promise revoutionary change. i think people have the wrong idea of "revolutionary" sometimes, too. he says he wants to fight the election on the economy which is a good move because the economy is in terrible shape and not liable to change over the next two years, not for the better anyway. to do this he'll have to present an alternative vision of where britain could be and would be under a labour government. this can only be done over key areas like housing, healthcare, and energy. along with education, that's the entire agenda starmer is setting for labour's next election manifesto. all the good/popular noises out of conference could have come from a corbyn frontbench except if it came from corbyn it wouldn't be given a chance. and that's what people were signing up to when they voted for starmer in the first place. corbyn-like policy but not corbyn, or the absence of corbyn's toxicity but the presence of the general social principles which his manifestos did articulate fairly well.
the necessity for transformational change has grown since corbyn left the stage and this is down to a pandemic, an unresolved financial crisis, and the acceleration in the cost of living crisis. starmer proposed a state owned energy company, which is both pragmatic and potentially revolutionary. that's the kind of thing labour needs to be doing, whether it sounds revolutionary or boring. cost these proposals and present them as counter vision to twelve years of tory dystopia.
I never actually voted when I lived there. Haven't voted in the UK since '97.
Has there ever been a bigger collection of cnuts in government?
Thérèse Coffey scraps promised paper on health inequality
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ey-scraps-promised-paper-on-health-inequality
Thérèse Coffey scraps promised paper on health inequality
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ey-scraps-promised-paper-on-health-inequality
Yes, but in addition it wasn't the MP's feck-up, it was the members that voted her in, so they will blame the system and change it so the MPs have much more say in who actually becomes leader.
And they'll probably still feck it up, but I think that's the way they'll go nonetheless.
Yes she only got 50 mps back her in the first round so she's not exactly got the best base of support
Can see the mps picking the next leader... its actually only quite recently the members have picked
Ids
Cameron
Johnson
Truss
Howard and may were unnaposed I think
Rees Moggs is a pantomine villian. A caracutre of a anarexic of a bond villian. Or harry potters new evil boarding school master.
Labour always do much better in polling than they do when it comes to an actual election.
Question Time is good tonight.
Austerity was inevitable once they announced that monstrosity of a budget.
Was voting Truss pragmatic? It doesn't really look that way right now. And as far as I know the Bros backed Clinton more or less as much as Clinton voters backed Obama in 2012, while the changes in 2016 vs 2012 elections were mostly increased voter turnout for the Republicans while the Democrats stayed the same.
We have had a decade of austerity. What is there left to cut?
Harsh thing to say about the Beckhams.
Might already be posted
Pension triple lock and other index linked benefits
Welfare
The amount they pay to local authorities
Hs2
International aid
General departmental cuts ij the name of "efficiency"
Would be my guess as starting points
Force civil service workers to retrain as medical professionals, fruit pickers or plumbers
Truss wants to scrap the state pension and reduce benefits. Let that sink in.
Phew, that’s a relief, they’ll be able to pay for the tax cut for the wealthiest 1% by cutting back on benefits payments as inflation soars.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the state pension became means tested, so that only those with little or no private pension provision gets it.
I would... people would stop saving for pensions
Pension funds are such a huge player in the market - there would be a total collapse as they are forced to sell off assets and not replace - honestly it would make the mini budget look like a small blip - forget parity with the dollar and think parity with the paso
You reckon any government would be that brave? It would instantly keep them out of power for some time if they did that.
Yes indeed.
Everything but the tax cuts and consequent borrowing that caused the problems in the first place.
All the while the gap between the so called rich and the much less well off grows and grows.
Let's means test more benefits while also cutting jobs within the public sector.
Sounds like a coherent strategy.
Sounds like a coherent strategy.
Totally agree.
The Office for Budget Responsibility Will not be allowed to mark the budget.
Is that even legal?
Is that even legal?
They have no choice if they were employees as they’d be automatically enrolled in at least a basic company scheme. Obviously those already on a state pension would probably keep it.
Means testing the state pension and restricting it to those that need it would force people to save more for pensions, not less unless there's something really basic I am missing
They won't have any choice, the hole in state pension fund is huge and growing at some point whoever the government is will be forced to either massively up the age of retirement or restrict who gets it. I am 50 and have no expectation of a state pension, it will be gone for me in before I am 65.
It’s really hard to believe they’re not intentionally shorting the pound at this point.
Yeah I've always assumed I wouldn't get it because of the crisis but reality (as per credit) is they won't risk it politically in my opinion.
Increasing the age and letting inflation erode the value of pension payouts seems the more obvious route.
If it's the fiscal event then yes I think that's ok
If it's the November budget then no... And the reprocussions would be brutal
pound up to $1.12 now so I'd guess the former
Only legal if it suits the Tory agendas.
It sends an awful message and I guess the market has given its own verdict. He's first up on Monday at the conference apparently, so will be interesting to see if there's any reaction to his comments.