Westminster Politics

Feels like the last gasp attempt to siphon more money to vested interests before they are turfed out into the political wilderness for a decade.
  • Massive energy company profits - who do they all take money from / used to work for / will go to work for?
  • Make sure anyone earning over £150k per annum gets a tax break to the tune of £10k-£20k per annum
  • Uncapping banker's bonuses for their mates and former colleagues in the city.
It's obvious, transparent, and disgusting. They know a monster recession is coming which they hope they can hide by bumping GDP and letting the city perform well, hiding the massive reduction in national living standards by pointing at some arbitrary numbers that show "the country is booming" while services, and standards all dip and people die.

That's not hyperbole, people will continue to die in record numbers in this country due to these soulless corrupt ghouls. I truly hope they all catch horrible illnesses and have to suffer the indignity of those in A&E hallways. feck them all.

Example, I got a text from my GP two days ago telling me there was a message at reception, spent 90 minutes, yes 90 mins, waiting to get through. I get through and they tell me the message is to book an appointment with reception. Ask the receptionist if I can book an appointment - "erm, no appointments until 17th October...."

Luckily I am only waiting for guidance on some meds, so I go into the surgery the next day and queue for forty mins to just ask them to prescribe the meds anyway without advice. An old woman behind me collapses in the queue. The woman says she will ask my doctor to call me. The doctor texts me verbatim "I've sent the meds to your usual pharmacy...." on a number I can't reply to. The kicker - I've never been prescribed meds by this surgery so have no clue which pharmacy of the five in my town has them.

The system is broken and they are all laughing at you. Laughing. Kwasi Kwarteng got coked up and went to the Queen's funeral so he can give epic bants in whatsapp groups and all laugh at our expense. You have 20-something MP's under investigation for SA. There is cocaine on every surface in Westminster. They partied while we were locked down. They gave their mates billions of your money for PPE that our nurses couldn't use.

At what point do we drag them out of office by their hair and put them on show trials?

I am so angry.

Spot on, every last word is exactly how I feel. Surely it is time to take to the streets now?
If King Charles III uses his power of royal prerogative to dissolve parliament, then I will pledge my allegiance to the monarch for the rest of my life.

And I bloody hate the royals too.

Mon Charlie, take the throne and use your powers to clean out the scum. Lock up every tory minister in prison too while you're at it and throw away the keys. Or bring back public executions and hang them one by one.
I fully support this, Id happily pull the lever, for free all day every day until the job was done.
 
It's scary that there's a possibility they might still win with a minority next election.
Whenever is the next election is surely it needs to be soon? They've reneged on so many of their manifesto pledges that this government has pretty much zero mandate now?!
 
How long before a vote of no confidence is tabled then? What gets me is how distant all this shite is from the manifesto they were elected on. They've gone completely off-piste and people are rightly pissed off.
 
How long before a vote of no confidence is tabled then? What gets me is how distant all this shite is from the manifesto they were elected on. They've gone completely off-piste and people are rightly pissed off.

The VONC won’t win. It will be Turkeys voting for Xmas. Backbench Tory MPs know they are fecked but there ain’t much they can do about it.
 
She does not have a mandate, which could actually be her excuse to call an early election. It would be a huge gamble but it would pre-empt any brewing revolt among her own MPs and give her a chance to ask for 'backing from the nation' before the full shitshow emerges. She'll have to be bloody quick in that case, and I doubt she's got the brains to think it all through, but someone might. Kwateng is a wanker but he's not an idiot.
Suicide if she does that. I’d be surprised if the party let her as a lot of them know they will be out of their cushty £90k a year job. I’m not talking just the red wall either.
 
She does not have a mandate, which could actually be her excuse to call an early election. It would be a huge gamble but it would pre-empt any brewing revolt among her own MPs and give her a chance to ask for 'backing from the nation' before the full shitshow emerges. She'll have to be bloody quick in that case, and I doubt she's got the brains to think it all through, but someone might. Kwateng is a wanker but he's not an idiot.

What is going to be really interesting is the level of Tory MPs who will be unhappy enough to actually vote against this budget. Not enough to force rejection. But maybe enough to give Liz Truss something of a bloody nose.
 
I wonder what the Tories would actually have to do for the British people to revolt? Are we too lethargic for such a thing to ever happen?
 
The Tories are so clueless about policies and reactive that I wouldn't be surprised if they see the market reaction and roll back a couple of the policies on Monday.
 
The Tories are so clueless about policies and reactive that I wouldn't be surprised if they see the market reaction and roll back a couple of the policies on Monday.
That would just create more chaos and uncertainty
 
That would just create more chaos and uncertainty

It would, but I don't think they would care if the reaction to what they've done goes down badly (which it obviously will due to the crazy bad decisions). The bank of England must be fuming having a government that are deliberately subverting what they are attempting to do.
 
It would, but I don't think they would care if the reaction to what they've done goes down badly (which it obviously will due to the crazy bad decisions). The bank of England must be fuming having a government that are deliberately subverting what they are attempting to do.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at some 'clarifications' made next week.

I hope to god someone is keeping a close eye on the investments of these ministers. Like with Brexit I'm sure some donors will made some very well investment decisions.
 
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Richard Fuller, a Treasury minister, raised eyebrows by arguing that the chancellor’s tax cuts would encourage young people in their 20s earning around £26,000 a year not to go down a “plodding path” in their career but to go into business.

He told LBC said it was about “risk and motivation” and those in their mid 20s should think about being more successful and keeping more of their money, as well as “taking that risk and not doing the plodding normal thing”.

Asked what plodding looks like, he said it was about not “being idle with your cash” and looking for a good return. He said the growth plan was about helping people think about “doing something with your life”.

Fuller said: “Back when I was 25, ironically, it was about the time we had a Conservative government that was looking to cut taxes. What I felt then is that this meant an opportunity for me.

“This meant if it took a risk with the way I wanted to run my career, I didn’t go down the plodding path of just step by step.

That I would have a government that was on my side. It encouraged me to look at things like venture capital and look at ways to grow a business... If you’re 25 and see an opportunity, the government will get out of the way and do what it can to enable you to take up an opportunity.”

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Don't be a plodder. Don't be idle with your cash. Don't train to be a teacher or a doctor or a social worker or enter a profession. Go into business instead. All businesses succeed and give you a good return.

Richard Fuller knows about taking risks.

Richard Fuller lost his Bedford seat in 2017 to Labour and then was parachuted into a safe Tory seat at the 2019 election. Don't be a plodder. Be like Richard the risk taker.
 
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at some 'clarifications' are made next week.

I hope to god someone is keeping a close eye on the investments of these ministers. Like with Brexit I'm sure some donors will made some very well investment decisions.

I bet Rees-Mogg’s hedge fund had shorted GBP.
 
Richard Fuller, a Treasury minister, raised eyebrows by arguing that the chancellor’s tax cuts would encourage young people in their 20s earning around £26,000 a year not to go down a “plodding path” in their career but to go into business.

He told LBC said it was about “risk and motivation” and those in their mid 20s should think about being more successful and keeping more of their money, as well as “taking that risk and not doing the plodding normal thing”.

Asked what plodding looks like, he said it was about not “being idle with your cash” and looking for a good return. He said the growth plan was about helping people think about “doing something with your life”.

Fuller said: “Back when I was 25, ironically, it was about the time we had a Conservative government that was looking to cut taxes. What I felt then is that this meant an opportunity for me.

“This meant if it took a risk with the way I wanted to run my career, I didn’t go down the plodding path of just step by step.

That I would have a government that was on my side. It encouraged me to look at things like venture capital and look at ways to grow a business... If you’re 25 and see an opportunity, the government will get out of the way and do what it can to enable you to take up an opportunity.”

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Don't be a plodder. Don't be idle with your cash. Don't train to be a teacher or a doctor or a social worker or enter a profession. Go into business instead. All businesses succeed and give you a good return.

Richard Fuller knows about taking risks.

Richard Fuller lost his Bedford seat in 2017 to Labour and then was parachuted into a safe Tory seat at the 2019 election. Don't be a plodder. Be like Richard the risk taker.

Wow talk about a complete load of bollocks. I'm on around that figure and have barely anything left at the end of the month to invest after rent and bills.

The only thing this government could do to be on the side of mid 20 somethings is to enact policies that decrease rent prices but of course they'd never dream of it.
 
Not sure why the cut the additional rate of tax. If anything it should have been increased a few percent to offset the cuts for the lower income people
 
Wow talk about a complete load of bollocks. I'm on around that figure and have barely anything left at the end of the month to invest after rent and bills.

The only thing this government could do to be on the side of mid 20 somethings is to enact policies that decrease rent prices but of course they'd never dream of it.

Just work harder and take risks you lazy sod!
 
I bet Rees-Mogg’s hedge fund had shorted GBP.
It's an emerging markets equity shop that's been bleeding assets for years now and is quite loss-making after further redemptions this year.
If he'd sold out five years ago he'd have got five times the price probably.
 
Richard Fuller, a Treasury minister, raised eyebrows by arguing that the chancellor’s tax cuts would encourage young people in their 20s earning around £26,000 a year not to go down a “plodding path” in their career but to go into business.

He told LBC said it was about “risk and motivation” and those in their mid 20s should think about being more successful and keeping more of their money, as well as “taking that risk and not doing the plodding normal thing”.

Asked what plodding looks like, he said it was about not “being idle with your cash” and looking for a good return. He said the growth plan was about helping people think about “doing something with your life”.

Fuller said: “Back when I was 25, ironically, it was about the time we had a Conservative government that was looking to cut taxes. What I felt then is that this meant an opportunity for me.

“This meant if it took a risk with the way I wanted to run my career, I didn’t go down the plodding path of just step by step.

That I would have a government that was on my side. It encouraged me to look at things like venture capital and look at ways to grow a business... If you’re 25 and see an opportunity, the government will get out of the way and do what it can to enable you to take up an opportunity.”

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Don't be a plodder. Don't be idle with your cash. Don't train to be a teacher or a doctor or a social worker or enter a profession. Go into business instead. All businesses succeed and give you a good return.

Richard Fuller knows about taking risks.

Richard Fuller lost his Bedford seat in 2017 to Labour and then was parachuted into a safe Tory seat at the 2019 election. Don't be a plodder. Be like Richard the risk taker.
I want to cave his head in and use the goo to heat my home for a few seconds this winter.
 
Richard Fuller, a Treasury minister, raised eyebrows by arguing that the chancellor’s tax cuts would encourage young people in their 20s earning around £26,000 a year not to go down a “plodding path” in their career but to go into business.

He told LBC said it was about “risk and motivation” and those in their mid 20s should think about being more successful and keeping more of their money, as well as “taking that risk and not doing the plodding normal thing”.

Asked what plodding looks like, he said it was about not “being idle with your cash” and looking for a good return. He said the growth plan was about helping people think about “doing something with your life”.

Fuller said: “Back when I was 25, ironically, it was about the time we had a Conservative government that was looking to cut taxes. What I felt then is that this meant an opportunity for me.

“This meant if it took a risk with the way I wanted to run my career, I didn’t go down the plodding path of just step by step.

That I would have a government that was on my side. It encouraged me to look at things like venture capital and look at ways to grow a business... If you’re 25 and see an opportunity, the government will get out of the way and do what it can to enable you to take up an opportunity.”

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Don't be a plodder. Don't be idle with your cash. Don't train to be a teacher or a doctor or a social worker or enter a profession. Go into business instead. All businesses succeed and give you a good return.

Richard Fuller knows about taking risks.

Richard Fuller lost his Bedford seat in 2017 to Labour and then was parachuted into a safe Tory seat at the 2019 election. Don't be a plodder. Be like Richard the risk taker.

Did he have any suggestions as to who would be the future doctors, teachers, nurses etc and the many thousands of other types of jobs that are needed for the country to function? Probably not.
 
I keep getting messages on LinkedIn for jobs in Australia, US, and Middle East. Always ignored such messages but first time today replied to a few. Need to jump off the sinking ship. I am so fking angry at this budget.
 
Minor point but I'm not sure where the perception the FT is pro Tory comes from. It's pretty much dead centrist, which of course the Tories are not.

Edit - Maybe slightly right. Culture coverage is banging though.
Probably because labour apparently crashed the economy so a finance paper would not support labour (which is insane)
 
Minor point but I'm not sure where the perception the FT is pro Tory comes from. It's pretty much dead centrist, which of course the Tories are not.

Edit - Maybe slightly right. Culture coverage is banging though.

I agree FT has never struck me as a daily mail/express. But it's not a daily mirror or guardian either.

Certainly wouldn't say its right wing. Maybe slightly right.
 
At some point we have to take action.
Absolutely. These parasitic spiv ghouls will stay until the bitter end, we need to drag them out kicking and screaming to answer for their at best negligent incompetence or at worst what is nothing short of treasonous theft from and damage to the nation.