Westminster Politics

Not really we're back to the same polling prior to the election. Essentially the Brexit Party and Lib Dem shift back to the main parties. You can claim both parties have made gains but it's nothing but a return to the norm at this stage in the election cycle.
Exactly my thinking. Those celebrating the current polls are grasping imo. Tories are polling very well considering how many covid clusterfecks they have created, even when compared with similar countries to the UK.
 
I see that Jacob Rees- Mogg says that the UNICEF Charity School Food Matters, which has donated £25,000 to help out needy school children, should be ashamed of themselves...
He brands it as a political stunt.
The only people who should really be ashamed of themselves is JRM and his over-privilaged Tory millionaire MPs who have made savage cuts to children's services in the UK. The same government who has been accused of wasting Billions of pounds of taxpayer money on PPE that is not fit for purpose and sits in warehousing. And the same government who paid Millions of pounds to agents as part of PPE acquisition.
 
I see that Jacob Rees- Mogg says that the UNICEF Charity School Food Matters, which has donated £25,000 to help out needy school children, should be ashamed of themselves...
He brands it as a political stunt.
The only people who should really be ashamed of themselves is JRM and his over-privilaged Tory millionaire MPs who have made savage cuts to children's services in the UK. The same government who has been accused of wasting Billions of pounds of taxpayer money on PPE that is not fit for purpose and sits in warehousing. And the same government who paid Millions of pounds to agents as part of PPE acquisition.
It’s like these people project their inability to understand simple human compassion onto everyone else, we aren’t all monsters!
 
I see that Jacob Rees- Mogg says that the UNICEF Charity School Food Matters, which has donated £25,000 to help out needy school children, should be ashamed of themselves...
He brands it as a political stunt.
The only people who should really be ashamed of themselves is JRM and his over-privilaged Tory millionaire MPs who have made savage cuts to children's services in the UK. The same government who has been accused of wasting Billions of pounds of taxpayer money on PPE that is not fit for purpose and sits in warehousing. And the same government who paid Millions of pounds to agents as part of PPE acquisition.
He is an absolute scum bag. UNICEF are not making a political move, they are following the high numbers of child poverty in the UK which have rocketed over the last 10 years.
 
He is an absolute scum bag. UNICEF are not making a political move, they are following the high numbers of child poverty in the UK which have rocketed over the last 10 years.
Hope he chokes on his food and his nanny isn’t there to save him.
 
He is an absolute scum bag. UNICEF are not making a political move, they are following the high numbers of child poverty in the UK which have rocketed over the last 10 years.

Quite right. Do you know, I have never before felt so incensed almost every day at some of the actions of any government as I do with this one.
I acknowledge that I am getting old. But with that comes a level of wisdom.
A truly horrible government.
 
Quite right. Do you know, I have never before felt so incensed almost every day at some of the actions of any government as I do with this one.
I acknowledge that I am getting old. But with that comes a level of wisdom.
A truly horrible government.
Same! This has irked me more than his comments on Grenfel (blaming the victims), it’s really angered me.
 
Quite right. Do you know, I have never before felt so incensed almost every day at some of the actions of any government as I do with this one.
I acknowledge that I am getting old. But with that comes a level of wisdom.
A truly horrible government.
Definitely, they were elected based on 3 words. That about sums up their level of competency too.

@Berbasbullet totally agree. If Mogg was a left winger he would be ripped to pieces in the press on a daily basis. He is an absolute freak. Eccentric does not begin to cover him.
 
I’m still annoyed this morning :lol: the cheek to moan that charities aren’t letting British kids starve to death, whilst he makes tens of millions of pounds that I imagine barely even end up in the British tax payers pot.

Christ, if I didn’t have my partner I’d 100% be looking to get out of the UK, love the country but the people in charge are honestly the most talentless, heartless, in it for themselves morons that we have ever had.
 
Work of a genius right here:


Came here to post this, it's brilliant.

I laughed out loud at "There'll be less aid for Africa this Christmas time, because we've given all your money to our friends, in governmental perks and the app that didn't work!" Then I felt sad because it's absolutely true.
 
It’s like these people project their inability to understand simple human compassion onto everyone else, we aren’t all monsters!
When is it going to be possible for y’all to vote this current cadre of scum out of office & start eradicating such lunacy in your government? How many election cycles?
 
When is it going to be possible for y’all to vote this current cadre of scum out of office & start eradicating such lunacy in your government? How many election cycles?
I believe it’s 2024, unless a snap election is called before then.
 
What are the machinations for calling a snap election? Is it a difficult process? When’s the last time that occurred?
The previous election was a snap election, basically everyone in parliament has to agree, or a 2/3rds majority? I think? I’m not 100% sure but the tories have 0 incentive to make it happen so we’re stuck with them.
 
The previous election was a snap election, basically everyone in parliament has to agree, or a 2/3rds majority? I think? I’m not 100% sure but the tories have 0 incentive to make it happen so we’re stuck with them.
Actually their manifesto was to overturn the fixed term parliament act so a snap election can be called

Normally (not always) this is an advantage for the party in.power as they can dictate the election timetable in the most advantageous way
 
Actually their manifesto was to overturn the fixed term parliament act so a snap election can be called

Normally (not always) this is an advantage for the party in.power as they can dictate the election timetable in the most advantageous way
Aaah okay then, wasn’t the FTPA only put in place recently?
 
Aaah okay then, wasn’t the FTPA only put in place recently?
Yeah, 2011. A lot of people just read the headline and assumed it would be impossible to hold an unscheduled election. However all it takes is a vote of no confidence, always possible after a hung or-near hung election, or a two thirds majority. In the latter case it would be extremely difficult for an opposition to say it didn't want an election, so in practice it's back to any time the government wants one. How I read it anyway. :)
 
When is it going to be possible for y’all to vote this current cadre of scum out of office & start eradicating such lunacy in your government? How many election cycles?

To get them out of office at an election they need a strong unified opposition party with a good strong leader.
Looking from the outside the impression is that Labour are divided into different factions who seem to hate each other as much as the Tories.

My impression of the previous leader was that he'd struggle to organise a village fête and the current leader doesn't seem to know what a village fête is.
 
Why is it whenever someone tries to feed our kids they get accused of playing politics, sorry it makes you tories look bad but someone has to do it.
The same reason why the Tories say rich people should be left alone to make more money and aspire for a better life, or how people shouldn't be given handouts and should be supported in their quest for a better life. But as soon as someone who has come up from nothing and has successfully created a better life for themselves - effectively the thing Tories say they want - they get insulted for having wealth if they say anything the Tories don't like.

Deflection.
 
Sorry, I saw this meme and I didn't know where to put it.



Classic Matt Hancockinhishands
 
To get them out of office at an election they need a strong unified opposition party with a good strong leader.
Looking from the outside the impression is that Labour are divided into different factions who seem to hate each other as much as the Tories.

My impression of the previous leader was that he'd struggle to organise a village fête and the current leader doesn't seem to know what a village fête is.
Whereas Boris Johnson struck you as competent? More like the village idiot, no?
 
Whereas Boris Johnson struck you as competent? More like the village idiot, no?

Not at all, I agree with you, but to get rid of this bunch of incompetents you've got to win over the electorate by representing a united front and having a competent leader.
BJ got in because he was getting Brexit done and Labour came up with their ridiculous Brexit plan which was actually Starmer's brainchild.
I've said it before, there has to be someone better than Corbyn and Starmer but was told there isn't anyone.
 


Can't believe the government are allowing this to be honest. Every person I have spoken to is surprised restrictions are being relaxed for those days, particularly when infections and deaths are rising.
On top of that, what an absolute slap in the face for every other religion who have had festivals curtailed throughout the year.
 
Can't believe the government are allowing this to be honest. Every person I have spoken to is surprised restrictions are being relaxed for those days, particularly when infections and deaths are rising.
On top of that, what an absolute slap in the face for every other religion who have had festivals curtailed throughout the year.
I'm pretty sure whatever happens in a few weeks (but probably a spike in infections) it will be blamed on people having parties for new years eve
 
I'm pretty sure whatever happens in a few weeks (but probably a spike in infections) it will be blamed on people having parties for new years eve
It's terrifying isn't it? Some people, left to their own devices and common sense will cause chaos and heartache for the masses. I can't believe the majority of mps voted for and allowed this to happen. The opposition in particular should be ashamed
 
It's terrifying isn't it? Some people, left to their own devices and common sense will cause chaos and heartache for the masses. I can't believe the majority of mps voted for and allowed this to happen. The opposition in particular should be ashamed
I'm not sure people would have listened if the government said no mixing at Xmas either - don't think there was a great solution and it will be interesting to see how other countries handle it and if the results are any better.

Most of my colleagues in Europe seem to intend to spend Xmas with families as well so I'm guessing most of Europe will see a spike as well
 
Not at all, I agree with you, but to get rid of this bunch of incompetents you've got to win over the electorate by representing a united front and having a competent leader.
BJ got in because he was getting Brexit done and Labour came up with their ridiculous Brexit plan which was actually Starmer's brainchild.
I've said it before, there has to be someone better than Corbyn and Starmer but was told there isn't anyone.

Why? Corbyn was not comparable to Boris.

Starmer is.
 
Can't believe the government are allowing this to be honest. Every person I have spoken to is surprised restrictions are being relaxed for those days, particularly when infections and deaths are rising.
On top of that, what an absolute slap in the face for every other religion who have had festivals curtailed throughout the year.

Ingerlund
 
Why? Corbyn was not comparable to Boris.

Starmer is.

Corbyn was nothing like Boris but appeared unelectable, with too much baggage and personally didn''t rate as a leader. But that is immaterial now.

Now Labour has to look to the next election, in the meantime you're going to have the fallout from Covid and Brexit so it as to be ready with the right policies that appeal to people and just as important a personailty that people can put their confidence in. If they don't get it right you could have 20 years of Tory rule and the UK or rather England starting to look like a one party state