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I doubt any of them were dangerously ill, and they just fancied some time at their second home; just like so many selfish people have done recently.
 
So now he’s given a huge dump of information with excruciating details including some obvious mistakes. Now people will start focusing on those mistakes individually and it will become about them, not about the over-riding issue of him being an elitist wanker who thinks he can do what the feck he wants. Then people will lose interest because the minutia of his travel will sound petty compared to what’s happening nationally.

We’ll probably end up with ‘Yes in hindsight that small mistake was indeed a mistake, so let’s move on’.
 
Shows what a load of who ha this media outrage is, and a waste of everyone’s time and effort.

man drives to family home to support his wife and child.

mind you, this is such a left wing, Labour forum that this will be considered controversial.
criticise the post not the poster.

not sure calling me a pleb is in the spirit of this forum, pretty pathetic reply.

In this case your attitude is the problem and seperating you from the post is impossible. I will never understand the "Albert Steptoe" type. The stay in your hole, know your role and one rule for the toffs and one for the rest of us type. The subservient boot licking die in the trenches type. Laying dead in a pool of blood and shite but as long as all the toffs are safe.

Why should Cummings be more important than everyone else who had to abide by the rules and why do people like you defend this and make it political? This isnt a fecking left v right issue but if you insist on making it political the three worst affected countries are the three countries run by the far right namely the UK, US and Brazil.
 
Shows what a load of who ha this media outrage is, and a waste of everyone’s time and effort.

man drives to family home to support his wife and child.

mind you, this is such a left wing, Labour forum that this will be considered controversial.

You really don't get it do you?
 
So. In summary.
He turns up over 30 minutes late for his own press conference.
Tells a cock and bull story about feeling threatened in his own home well before any of this comes out.
Has no alternative child care, even for a senior government official.
And therefore has no option but to drive to Durham.

And despite neither he nor his wife actually being tested for covid decided that this was the right thing to do.

He then decided that he was so important that he had to come back to London to arrange child care...

And everything is legal and above board in the land of Dominic Cummings.

I hope everyone is now satisfied.
 
In this case your attitude is the problem and seperating you from the post is impossible. I will never understand the "Albert Steptoe" type. The stay in your hole, know your role and one rule for the toffs and one for the rest of us type. The subservient boot licking die in the trenches type. Laying dead in a pool of blood and shite but as long as all the toffs are safe.

Why should Cummings be more important than everyone else who had to abide by the rules and why do people like you defend this and make it political? This isnt a fecking left v right issue but if you insist on making it political the three worst affected countries are the three countries run by the far right namely the UK, US and Brazil.

have you read the thread title. In what way do you think it’s not political?

What a strange take on this - this is 100% political.

edit - just read your first paragraph, and frankly have rarely read such melodramatic tripe. If the aim was for me to not take you seriously, then you have been very successful.
 
It’s started already. People moaning about the media Harrassing him and that he didn’t feel safe. People are so easily brought in this country.

The thing with the media angle to this is that they knew from quite early on and sat on the story. The part of the presser where a chap was asking him why Cummings did not tell him where he was when he had asked previously was a bit strange.
 
He then decided that he was so important that he had to come back to London to arrange child care....
I must have missed part of this story; where did his kid stay while he & his wife were sick?
I thought they said they went to Durham to drop the kid off there at his sister’s place?

Where is his wife & kid now?
 
What don’t I get?

perhaps you don’t get it and I just disagree with you.

care to elaborate?

First and foremost, he broken the rules he helped to create, which is a breach of public trust in the government.
There is widespread outrage because he went on a 250 mile trip whilst some parents in the UK had to stay away from their childrens funerals in order to obide by the rules. It's not one rule for the government and another for your average citizen - it's one rule for all.
He has the temerity to spin a bunch of lies which can be picked apart with ease, and not only does he do that, he doubles down on those lies. There a conservative voters who have turned on him and Johnson largely because they realise how ridiculous this is. There are a good proportion of people who are absolutely livid because they finally realise that they're being taken for absolute mugs.
 
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Lockdown can get fecked now.

Anyone getted stopped by the police - "I'm just out testing my eyesight, Officer."
It's over - there is no trust in the government advice if they themselves flagrantly break the very rules they've set. People will die because of this as the case will inevitably spike up again.
 
Johnson dodging the Cummings questions shocker.
 
Boris now answering a question about people not social distancing in parks by advising a random woman to speak to the people if she sees it. Great advice Boris, I’m sure you’ll take responsibility for the first person to get beaten or stabbed when they ask some nutter about their lack of social distancing..
 
Genuinely believe that Boris has compromised his entire premiership here. He’s lost all authority. He can’t possibly ask what he needs to ask of the public any longer.
 
Wash your hands, clap for carers, do as they say not as they do. We all know our place. Thank you Boris, very helpful responses.
 
What don’t I get?

perhaps you don’t get it and I just disagree with you.

care to elaborate?
You can disagree and "get it".

So, to be clear, this is Mr. Cumming's position:

I and my wife were unwell, likely both with CV19. I was concerned that this would result in a situation where we could not care for my child. I did not want to pass a potentially fatal illness to my wife's brother and sister who live close by in London. However, my 17 year old niece in Durham 260 miles away had offered to help. We felt her life was more expendable and the fact she resided on an opulent estate simply made this already convenient solution more so. We then made this journey in direct contravention of Government advice and I then returned to London to work also in direct contravention of Government advice. This is of course Government advice I was one of the prime architects of and has caused distress and suffering the country across as we attempted to control the outbreak of CV19. This is also Government advice that resulted in the resignation of Neil Ferguson, another architect of Government policy, for a lesser breach . Oh, and also, to test my eyesight I drove with my wife and child who I have already established the welfare of is of paramount importance, coincidentally on her birthday. I will then suggest that the Government advice did not relate to my circumstances, even though I was one of it's chief architects and suggest that the media are being unfair to me as I refuse to concede any wrong doing.

You're cool with all of this it seems. Most people aren't. You can "get" why I assume, whilst disagreeing?
 
He said corona does seem bad for your eyes, so what the 'test drive' was ok?
 
'Just using my discretion Officer, you know, like Dom did.'

Well the attorney General for England and Wales publicly supported cummings so that's as good of a get out of jail card as any.
 
He’s stonewalling every question.

He refused to expand on his conference and refused to offer unconditional backing. Cummings is done.

He is asked why, if Cummings was unsure whether or not he was fit to subsequently drive back to London, his wife did not take the wheel instead.

Johnson says they are good questions but claims that, because Cummings has answered a lot of questions already, he will not add anything substantial. Johnson says:

People will have to make their minds up.