Westminster Politics


Spot on. This country needs a change to sort out all these problems caused by the Conservatives and their policies.

How about more austerity but this time it's delivered by the Labour party? That'll fix it.
 
Spot on. This country needs a change to sort out all these problems caused by the Conservatives and their policies.

How about more austerity but this time it's delivered by the Labour party? That'll fix it.

Imagine blaming the Labour Party before they’ve even got into power for the Tory failure of the last 14 years. That’s quite something. Tell you what, let’s just protest from the sidelines and not get into power. That’ll solve it.
 
And now this formerly Tory supporting company is saying 'we think Labour can be trusted with the economy' is exactly what Labour were going for.

Some of the gotcha's over this are ridiculous.

Basically, the people who've rigged the economy to ensure the rich stay rich while schools, hospitals and public services crumble are now confident that Labour will not challenge the status quo. Once again, anything approaching a fair taxation system is now considered fantasy politics and everyone can get back to bootlicking and blaming their problems on immigrants.
 
Basically, the people who've rigged the economy to ensure the rich stay rich while schools, hospitals and public services crumble are now confident that Labour will not challenge the status quo. Once again, anything approaching a fair taxation system is now considered fantasy politics and everyone can get back to bootlicking and blaming their problems on immigrants.


Yes, super astute. They absolutely should reject endorsements from business. It's always worked so well for them.
 
Basically, the people who've rigged the economy to ensure the rich stay rich while schools, hospitals and public services crumble are now confident that Labour will not challenge the status quo. Once again, anything approaching a fair taxation system is now considered fantasy politics and everyone can get back to bootlicking and blaming their problems on immigrants.
Yeah but it's the red team so it's good.
 
Basically, the people who've rigged the economy to ensure the rich stay rich while schools, hospitals and public services crumble are now confident that Labour will not challenge the status quo. Once again, anything approaching a fair taxation system is now considered fantasy politics and everyone can get back to bootlicking and blaming their problems on immigrants.

Yeah and about that 'problem'...

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ing-tycoon-breaks-into-sunday-times-rich-list
 
Imagine blaming the Labour Party before they’ve even got into power for the Tory failure of the last 14 years. That’s quite something. Tell you what, let’s just protest from the sidelines and not get into power. That’ll solve it.
How am I blaming Labour for last 14 years? I'm blaming Tory policy. I think this country is in the state it's in due to austerity and the way the Tories have run the economy.

That's why I'm perplexed that people on here seem to think that even more of that Tory policy and economic thinking is somehow going to improve things for people.
 
How am I blaming Labour for last 14 years? I'm blaming Tory policy. I think this country is in the state it's in due to austerity and the way the Tories have run the economy.

That's why I'm perplexed that people on here seem to think that even more of that Tory policy and economic thinking is somehow going to improve things for people.

Labour have not shown they are just repeating Tory austerity. They obviously have to be careful with the finances but the main thing is to get elected and enact change once elected. There will obviously be challenges ahead to reverse the damage caused by the Tories.
 
It wasn't difficult at all. What @Herman Toothrot is saying is that it's worrying if Labour is becoming the sort of party attractive to that part of society. You don't have to agree, but the point couldn't be more obvious.

If you want to be sarcastic, then the absolute minimum requirement is to be able to understand basic sentences. Otherwise you usually end up looking a bit silly.

Thanks for chipping in! Always appreciated from yourself.
 
Labour have not shown they are just repeating Tory austerity. They obviously have to be careful with the finances but the main thing is to get elected and enact change once elected. There will obviously be challenges ahead to reverse the damage caused by the Tories.

Exactly, why is this concept so difficult for (some) Labour people to understand?
 
Exactly, why is this concept so difficult for (some) Labour people to understand?

@TheGame I personally think Labour should be less fearful of the word 'borrowing' but some seam to think we should magic up about £1tn to dish out on everything that's wrong with the country.
 
@TheGame I personally think Labour should be less fearful of the word 'borrowing' but some seam to think we should magic up about £1tn to dish out on everything that's wrong with the country.

This Government has spent over £1.6 trillion in 14 years making everyone poorer and dismantling the country whilst preaching constantly about austerity.

It is not unreasonable to think about borrowing a lower figure for better purposes.
 
Sad story but who the feck thinks like this?

"If my cancer had been caught early, I would be looking at another 30 years of economic productivity"

Not 30 more years with my friends and family, but 30 years of economic productivity. What an existence.
He’s just trying to make a political point that he could potentially have still been paying taxes for another 30 years, giving back to the pot
 
This Government has spent over £1.6 trillion in 14 years making everyone poorer and dismantling the country whilst preaching constantly about austerity.

It is not unreasonable to think about borrowing a lower figure for better purposes.

That was my first point.
 
@TheGame I personally think Labour should be less fearful of the word 'borrowing' but some seam to think we should magic up about £1tn to dish out on everything that's wrong with the country.

Labour are always in a difficult spot with public spending. Tax rises are a vote loser (I'm not sure when there was last a successful election campaign where there was an acknowledgment taxes would need to rise, even if that would be spent wisely on public services). Borrowing for investment being dangerous electorally is a more recent phenomenon for Labour. Probably 2010 and 2019 caused a bit of an issue and the current pitch is fiscal stability and responsibility, to neutralise the conservative attack line. Public services do need a huge cash injection though.
 
Mmmmmm, austerity :drool:

Sunaks' wealth rises to £651m in latest Sunday Times Rich List

The personal wealth of Rishi Sunak and his wife Akshata Murty rose by £122m last year, according to the Sunday Times Rich List.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-69027955
"But the PM's official spokesman added: "When he's been asked this question before he's responded and asked that people judge him by his actions, including to support livelihoods during the pandemic though the furlough scheme as an example."

The furlough scheme ended almost three years ago and it's the only thing they can think of.

Goes without saying that Infosys and his wife's fitness company also did quite well thanks to the furlough scheme.
 
The furlough scheme ended almost three years ago and it's the only thing they can think of.

Goes without saying that Infosys and his wife's fitness company also did quite well thanks to the furlough scheme.

Did you not eat out to help out? You're underestimating him.