Westminster Politics

BBC News, politics section, top story is inflation holding at 4%. The next 4 stories are all related to Labour and the issue with the Rochdale candidate plus the withdrawal of support for the Graham Jones. This is why Starmer has to be cautious on everything.

If anyone actually believes that the inflation rate is just 4%, I would be amazed. Apart from the government and the pro government media.
 
Well, yes.

Not fully aware of that one but a blanket statement about people joining the military of a recognised democratic (I know!) state is incendiary, if people have done that and have been found to have committed war crimes then they should be investigated and punished.

It seems to be a crime for UK citizens for join a foreign army at war with a country which is not at war with the UK. On top of that, we have ample evidence of that foreign army committing war crimes, and a plausible case for it committing genocide.
I don't understand how you are cool with letting UK citizens fight there, especially since UK citizens were prosecuted, for transparently bullshit reasons, for fighting alongside Kurdish forces (allied with the UK) against ISIS.
 
A recognised 'democratic' apartheid state which is increasingly culpable of committing genocide.

The point is whether that constitutes an MP being punished or accused of anti-semitism. Do you not think Starmer has gone a little too far in his attempts to come across as tackling anti-semitism? To me it looks like he's merely trying to silence any anti-Israeli dissent with an iron fist.

Yes I do, but given the task of publicly addressing the issue, he has to act on things like that.

I completely understand the issue, and agree re: Netanyahu’s actions, but if he’s to be our representative on the international stage then he can’t allow his MPs to suggest that membership of a military is a ‘crime worthy of arrest’.
 
It seems to be a crime for UK citizens for join a foreign army at war with a country which is not at war with the UK. On top of that, we have ample evidence of that foreign army committing war crimes, and a plausible case for it committing genocide.
I don't understand how you are cool with letting UK citizens fight there, especially since UK citizens were prosecuted, for transparently bullshit reasons, for fighting alongside Kurdish forces (allied with the UK) against ISIS.

I’m not ‘cool’ with any of it, and if the nuance of the argument is that it is genuinely illegal for people to do so then I’ll hold my hands up to my error.

Although this suggests they can:

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-confirms-citizens-can-legally-serve-in-israeli-forces/
 

Feck me...imagine if that was the other way round...

But again, casual islamaphobia barely registers on the scales... as much as I hate the current Labour Party, I cant even imagine how anyone muslim would be associated with the tories. And yet there are many, how many if them will be up in arms with guidos tweet and their close relationship to the tory party?
 
It seems to be a crime for UK citizens for join a foreign army at war with a country which is not at war with the UK. On top of that, we have ample evidence of that foreign army committing war crimes, and a plausible case for it committing genocide.
I don't understand how you are cool with letting UK citizens fight there, especially since UK citizens were prosecuted, for transparently bullshit reasons, for fighting alongside Kurdish forces (allied with the UK) against ISIS.

The document seems to be limited to wars against states which are at peace with the UK. Since the UK does not recognise Palestine as a state the act wouldn't cover it.

It's a very rubbish law. Seems like you could go and fight for Assad, but not against him. Seems like you could go fight in 30's Spain for, but not against Franco.
 
I was going to post the same thing.
It is pretty obvious that this anti Labour narrative is intended to coincide with the 2 by-elections.
And it is a small part of what is to come.
Odd that there was no headline article on the BBC about the Green party withdrawing support for its candidate, it was covered as a footnote in Labour's Rochdale story....
 
Feck me...imagine if that was the other way round...

But again, casual islamaphobia barely registers on the scales... as much as I hate the current Labour Party, I cant even imagine how anyone muslim would be associated with the tories. And yet there are many, how many if them will be up in arms with guidos tweet and their close relationship to the tory party?

They deleted it but I suspect Guido deleted it because it was pointed out that 'Sophisticated Jews' is considered anti-semetic.
 
I was going to post the same thing.
It is pretty obvious that this anti Labour narrative is intended to coincide with the 2 by-elections.
And it is a small part of what is to come.

Spot on!
Starmer and the Labour Party heading into stormy waters, he's got to get a grip, anyone rocking the boat gets thrown overboard, the media will be scanning everything said or published by anyone remotely connected to Labour.
I wonder sometime if these people who make the sort of statements we have heard recently actually know what a fuss their words will kick up, or that someone is recording, or reporting what they say, or are they really from la la land, either way close the door Sir Keir and make sure they hand in their key..
 
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Odd that there was no headline article on the BBC about the Green party withdrawing support for its candidate, it was covered as a footnote in Labour's Rochdale story....

That is interesting isn't it. Says it all.
 
Spot on!
Starmer and the Labour Party heading into stormy waters, he's got to get a grip, anyone rocking the boat gets thrown overboard, the media will be scanning everything said or published by anyone remotely connected to Labour.
I wonder sometime if these people who make the sort of statements we have heard recently actually know what a fuss their words will kick up, or that someone is recording, or reporting what they say, or are they really from la la land, either way close the door Sir Keir and make sure they hand in their key..

Good post. And of course it had to be the DM that printed the story. As you say, everyone associated with Labour has got to be ultra careful. But we know they won't...
 
Odd that there was no headline article on the BBC about the Green party withdrawing support for its candidate, it was covered as a footnote in Labour's Rochdale story....
You could certainly argue the Green party issue was worth it's own story, even as a hook for a broader piece on how events thousands of miles away are shaping this by-election.

Let's not pretend the Labour debacle and the Greens are equally newsworthy in isolation though.
 
Tbh I’m guessing the answer is the party has received a big donation from some oil company. The same thing happened when he got rid of the tax on tech companies.

Rachel Reeves accepted donation from climate sceptic days before dropping £28bn pledger
Rachel Reeves accepted £10,100 from a climate sceptic just days before Labour abandoned its flagship £28bn green energy spending pledge

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...ccepted-donation-climate-sceptic-28bn-pledge/
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Rachel Reeves accepted donation from climate sceptic days before dropping £28bn pledger

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I can work out if she’s just a massive cnut or a bad politician.
Not a typo, I’ve worked out it’s the former.
 
Rachel Reeves accepted donation from climate sceptic days before dropping £28bn pledger

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It's not exactly how the headline makes out is it?

Lord Donoughue believes in climate change and but is sceptical about how it will be funded and finances involved. He doesn't deny it exist. He's certainly not some oil company like you made out.

Torygraph spouting shite as per. I don't even particularly like Rachel Reeves but this is a stretch. 2+2=5.
 
It's not exactly how the headline makes out is it?

Lord Donoughue believes in climate change and but is sceptical about how it will be funded and finances involved. He doesn't deny it exist. He's certainly not some oil company like you made out.

Torygraph spouting shite as per. I don't even particularly like Rachel Reeves but this is a stretch. 2+2=5.

He’s literally a director and former chairman of The Global Warming Policy Foundation which is a Tufton Street think tank which is funded by the fossil fuel industry.
 
Not a typo, I’ve worked out it’s the former.
:lol:

So far Labour seem very cheap to buy off.

Lord Donoughue believes in climate change and but is sceptical about how it will be funded and finances involved.
Donoughue wrote in 2016 that he accepted “carbon emissions do have a relationship with global warming” but argued the “degree of this sensitivity has not been conclusively established.” In the same article, he backed “the extraction of cheap and relatively clean shale gas”, not “silly and expensive windmills.”

https://www.desmog.com/2019/01/30/l...ying-group-has-vested-interests-fossil-fuels/
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He's certainly not some oil company like you made out.
Donoughue’s 30 shareholdings include four investment funds that list BP and Shell in their top five holdings, while another fund has shares in ExxonMobil, the House of Lords’ latest Register of Interests shows.

A further fund invests heavily in oil and gas infrastructure in the US and Canada, including the controversial Kinder Morgan and Keystone XLpipelines. The pipelines carry oil from the Alberta tar sands and have faced strong resistance from local indigenous communities in recent years.

https://www.desmog.com/2019/01/30/l...ying-group-has-vested-interests-fossil-fuels/
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BBC News, politics section, top story is inflation holding at 4%. The next 4 stories are all related to Labour and the issue with the Rochdale candidate plus the withdrawal of support for the Graham Jones. This is why Starmer has to be cautious on everything.
Yeah, they're going for Labour now. The vested interests are panicking.
 
I remember when the story about the Camden flats came out. Another reason why I won't buy new shit, it's all built to a price.
I honestly wasn't aware that it was this bad for new builds, especially the lease deals with service charges. One almost assumes everything is expensive these days, but to get shoddy quality built in modern times for premium prices is truly a nightmare. One wonders how many lives have been impacted.
 
I honestly wasn't aware that it was this bad for new builds, especially the lease deals with service charges. One almost assumes everything is expensive these days, but to get shoddy quality built in modern times for premium prices is truly a nightmare. One wonders how many lives have been impacted.
Purely a corporate focus on the margin.

"What if we used this material, it's cheaper and will break in 24 months but we will save £X per unit, meaning a reduction in cost of £XXX.....and the best bit is, the liability is not with us as the developer/builder but with the lease company..."

"trebles all round lads, bravo!"
 
The UK GDP had grown the last 15 years an average of 1.5%-2%. What I can't understand is that the NHS, education, the military and seems like every single meaningful department is underfunded and they can get away without people going to the streets shouting corruption and sharpen the guillotines

And this is not exclusively from UK
Isn't that 2% rise in GDP nullified by the 8% (around 5m people) rise in the population since 2010? It's the fact that the government have done nothing to manage this easily predictable change and its effect on public services that leads them to blaming 100,000 immigrants for all our woes.
 
Nah, everything's fine...

British Gas profits leap from £72m to £751m in a year

Unite union says UK energy supplier’s bumper results ‘come off the back of exorbitant energy bills’

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/15/british-gas-profits-energy-bills-centrica
Serves 12m homes, so about £60 each home, except also 300,000 businesses, some of which would be quite large I imagine (could be wrong) so probably quite a bit less than £60 each.

Obviously I'd rather have that cash in my own pocket but is it unreasonable compared to profits made by the other things we spend money on, supermarkets, internet and media supply, holidays or car dealers? Not sure, but I'm not scandalised by it either.

For the record I would not have privatised, and if I had done I would have invested the proceeds in infrastructure and improving public services, and not spunked them on tax cuts as Thatcher did, even though I gained from them, but I suppose that was a long time ago now.
 
Serves 12m homes, so about £60 each home, except also 300,000 businesses, some of which would be quite large I imagine (could be wrong) so probably quite a bit less than £60 each.

Obviously I'd rather have that cash in my own pocket but is it unreasonable compared to profits made by the other things we spend money on, supermarkets, internet and media supply, holidays or car dealers? Not sure, but I'm not scandalised by it either.

For the record I would not have privatised, and if I had done I would have invested the proceeds in infrastructure and improving public services, and not spunked them on tax cuts as Thatcher did, even though I gained from them, but I suppose that was a long time ago now.

You can't just look at British Gas in isolation. You need to look at its parent company which helps to determine the wholesale price its downstream company (British Gas) pays. Centrica profits - £2.75 Billion. When British Gas profits were lower a year earlier, Centrica's profits were £3.3 Billion. Evidently production costs and scarcity aren't the only reasons for the wholesale gas price.
 
You can't just look at British Gas in isolation. You need to look at its parent company which helps to determine the wholesale price its downstream company (British Gas) pays. Centrica profits - £2.75 Billion. When British Gas profits were lower a year earlier, Centrica's profits were £3.3 Billion. Evidently production costs and scarcity aren't the only reasons for the wholesale gas price.
I wasn't, I was replying to the post and linked article I quoted. If you have the patience to look into Centrica's turnover and profits per customer then go ahead, I might agree with you.