Listening 5Live on the way home from work and Tony Livesey said Rachel Reeves did a good job delivering her speech despite interruption from one heckler.
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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It seems beyond you to read a proper news source so I will quote it to you here:
Again you seem to be insinuating that the government dropped a £3bn tax grab in exchange for £3500 in Glasto tickets. Do you even read yourself
The financials have to be reported by December, so I suspect we will hear more early in the New Year. Although I suspect that will focus on job losses and course closures in the very short term.
not only as corrupt as Tory, but also as stupid as them.
It is too easy to bribe a politician in the UK. In the US, a supreme Court judge gets 500k bribe in the form of a 10 day vacation. Now that is a proper bribe.
Maybe the majority of the British public disagree but that makes Labour and Reeves look weak rather than strong to me. Some wee short security guy doesn't even try to ask him to leave but immediately puts his arm round the lanky streak of piss' throat and basically gets shrugged off until his mates arrive. Sort of epitomises the party in general.
Do you think the security guard is more likely to be employed by the party or the venue?
Haven't the foggiest, does it matter? Did anyone try to stop them?
Why would they? People get removed from events all the time.
Forcibly, without even asking them to leave? It's not Ministry of Sound, it's supposed to be a civilised political event.
Yes, it's event security. It prevents disruption to the event. The principles are largely the same as it would be at Ministry of Sound or any event where security seek to prevent disruption.
And yet at Ministry of Sound they actually ask you to leave before grabbing you round the throat...
Erm. Not always true. Don’t ask me how I know that.
Britain has elected the most annoying and entitled substitute teacher for the next four years.
Who could have guessed!
No austerity but squeeze on spending will result in economic growth. God love em, it's science I tells ya.
This really is no different from the Tories, isn’t it? Trying to close pubs early and being harsh towards people on benefits. As someone on PIP, I’m scared
I’m taking that closing pubs early claim with a bucket load of salt. It’s the Telegraph and they come out with it on the same day it’s announced that 50 pubs per month are closing on average this year. The Telegraph know exactly what they’re doing there.
Im certain there the previous regime didnt have the same level of scrutiny.
You are extremely naive.It seems beyond you to read a proper news source so I will quote it to you here:
Again you seem to be insinuating that the government dropped a £3bn tax grab in exchange for £3500 in Glasto tickets. Do you even read yourself
The Telegraph have also been doing cheapshot scare tactics 'Reeves refuses to rule out increase to *insert today's tax here*' articles every day, knowing full well no chancellor isn't going to give them an exhaustive list pre-Budget.
Who could have guessed!
Benefit fraud, really? What happened to the billionaires and the profiteers at the energy companies? They're so fecking lame.
It’s a life long passive project for Reeves.
From 2013 - Labour will be tougher than Tories on benefits, promises new welfare chief
Why are we using Times and Telegraph headlines as any kind of lead with regards to what’s going to be in the budget? It’s all propaganda.
“It was a fun thing to do”
Certainly feels like labour are held to higher standards than the Tory's. I get it but at the same time they should both be held to a high standard, no one really seems to gave a feck about it when the Tory's were in and certainly not that many Tory voters.
Tbf, Labour did spend plenty of time campaigning with a message of "look at these awful corrupt sleaze merchants... we're going to clean up politics". You reap what you sow.
I bet Tory MP’s are currently lobbying journalists to shut the feck up about these freebies in case Labour do something mental like bringing in new regulations around what bribes MPs are legally allowed to accept.
Why didn't she just waffle about it being a networking opportunity or something similar? As me and others have said, just block freebies full stop or make MPs pay their own way at them.
Funny in a way that journos are
I find the freebie argument quite silly. It's almost as though there's an expectation for any party to not take freebies which is just detached from reality.
Society should be smarter than that and focus on the broader issues at play but instead appear happy to continue mudslinging.
I am reading some of these freebie news and maybe I've missed something material but it relates to clothing or tickets to games. That's hardly what the dirty conservatives were doing by way of corruption. An element of hypocrisy exists in every politician. Accept it and hold them to more material standards.
Society should be smarter than that and focus on the broader issues at play but instead appear happy to continue mudslinging.
I am reading some of these freebie news and maybe I've missed something material but it relates to clothing or tickets to games. That's hardly what the dirty conservatives were doing by way of corruption. An element of hypocrisy exists in every politician. Accept it and hold them to more material standards.
Have you asked yourself why they are receiving these freebies yet?
As in why are people just randomly giving MPs free stuff? Do you randomly get given free stuff?
Have you heard the phrase “no such thing as a freebie”?
Have you considered that for example an Oil company buying £400 tickets to something for an MP that is in charge of our energy policy might be an unimaginably cheap way of influencing energy policy which could feasibly save them billions?
It’s not freebies. It’s bribery and corruption done the British way - transparently and with lots of boring paperwork.
Most of them are not paid by the public.
It's okay not to understand something. Most other industries and the civil service have already learned this lesson. There isn't a revolutionary ask here just that MPs catch up with society and drop the mindset of perks of the job. This is more in line with the expense scandal than the Tory contract corruptions.
You don't investigate each gift for potential bribery and corruption. You have policy that stops it in the first place.
At the end of the article, 'It is categorically untrue that the government is considering changing alcohol licensing hours.'.
If I'm not allowed to take freebies in insurance then I don't think it's too much to ask for Politicians not to take freebies!
There is no real evidence for it but it's a scientific fact
I have literally no idea why people are finding this so hard to grasp.
They’re just accepting free gifts from lobbyists working for huge corporations, I don’t see what the problem is.