Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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Pro-Palestinian is a nightmare to use in a headline in most web templates.
Left wing would have worked just fine.
Spot on!
Starmer's 10-year plan to 'move the dial' for ordinary folk, depends on it. No doubt his calculations include for a halving of his majority in 2029, but still enough 'in power' to complete the ' 'dial shift'
There will have to be a few "spoonful's of sugar to make the medicine go down" .... no doubt, some of that doled out to public sector workers already.
He will however be still on a 'balancing act' and will need all the skills of Nadia Comaneci (first perfect 10 in gymnastics 1976 Olympics) to see it through.... and hope for no 'unplanned events' to blow him off course.
Why are the tories obsessed with Rwanda?
James Cleverly vows to resurrect Rwanda scheme
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9v831dyme8o
James Cleverly vows to resurrect Rwanda scheme
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9v831dyme8o
Because they can't lean into the space that Labour now cover, and Rwanda is the only thing they have to try and bring back some who defected further right to Reform UK Ltd.
Surely not, that would be a horrific move.
Pensioners getting it again.
They're looking at removing the 5% council tax cap as well.
Okay, maybe calm down before you turn everyone against you.
Around 60 in the dinghy, reports that the bottom split.
They need to get some safe routes opened up to truly deal with this.
The pivot to the left after winning seems to be going well.
This is so awfully tragic. We definitely need safe routes opened up ASAP.
I do wonder what these people hear or are told by the traffickers about life in the UK. I've never been one of the people who is just incessantly negative about everything in the UK and I know that some will have some specific pull factors in the UK like family.
But once you're already on the mainland, I'm really struggling to balance the risk of crossing the channel on one of these awful dinghies vs just staying in a country like France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark etc.
I've spent some time with refugees in Italy, like you say its usually family ties or friends drawing them to a destination but the UK is known to be more favourable than others with the settlement process and what support is available to them. I never met anybody with the UK as the end goal, it was mostly Germany and Scandinavia.
It doesnt matter how many times you use that phrase in this thread, all evidence points to the dial remaining unmoved by his policies.
Protectionism for corporation profits, the full might of thrive or die capitalism for the powerless.
That is starmer, it was who he was at the CPS, pushing for prison sentences measured in years for stealing bottles of water during riots and declining to prosecute the murderers of Jean Charles de Menezes despite the police, Cressida Dick included, lying about it all being known at the time, being just one illustration of this trend.
If you are strong, he won't go for you, if you are weak, he will do his best to end you.
That is starmer, it was who he was at the CPS, pushing for prison sentences measured in years for stealing bottles of water during riots and declining to prosecute the murderers of Jean Charles de Menezes despite the police, Cressida Dick included, lying about it all being known at the time, being just one illustration of this trend.
If you are strong, he won't go for you, if you are weak, he will do his best to end you.
Try something contemporaneous.
looking at the grenfell report, and when it comes to issues around how public contracts were awarded, theres lots of long sentences ....such as" Moore-Bick says the council's housing company (or TMO) manipulated the process of appointing an architect to carry out the refurbishment of Grenfell Tower so it could appoint its chosen firm, Studio..."
i can think of another word that is strangely absent, begins with C
i can think of another word that is strangely absent, begins with C
It is absolutely bonkers that we put councillors in charge of enormous sums of money and don't even pay them a salary.
cloud cuckoo land
Spoken like somebody with no clue about the asylum processes in other countries. The UK has by far the highest asylum approval rate of major European countries. We average about a 70% approval rate compared to anything between 46% for Germany down to 10% for Spain. Only relevant if you wish to understand why people take the risk of crossing the channel when they're already in France (37% approval). If you just want to shout i hate Tories as loud as you can, probably not so important.
"Asylum processing in the UK has been impacted by the Illegal Migration Act of 2023, which has led to some challenges, including:
Ban on granting leave to irregular arrivals
The Act bans the granting of leave to those who arrived in the UK irregularly after March 7, 2023. This could impact all asylum claims made after that date, even if the applicant arrived legally.
Lack of guidance
Before the election, there was no guidance on how to implement the ban, which meant that no applications could be processed."
If you ban processing asylum claims (bearing in mind there aren't many legal routes to arrive) it doesn't really matter what percentage of claims are accepted. 0% or 100% of feck all is still pretty much feck all.
just from little working knowledge of councils, the amount of lets say small c corruption in public works would be easily in the billions. its amazing that nothing is done. odd headline in the private eye notwithstanding. when put against the chronic lack of services due to lack of funding, then its even more galling.
How is this even a remotely good idea? Can any of the Starmer supporters or mr move the dial please explain the merit in this?
All they give a feck about is corporate profit, they will do absolutely anything to maximize it.
The poll she mentions on scrapping the two child benefit limit is interesting, with 50% of Labour votes opposed and only 38% in favour. Even in the sole cohort supporting scrapping the cap, 18-24 year olds, only 46% are in favour, with 32% against. Hadn't seen polling on the issue before.
From June 2023 to June 2024 the UK approved 68,000 asylum applications, 3 times more than the previous year. Again, if you want to know why people cross the Channel here are the reasons. Otherwise admit you know feck all about the topic and move on.
Where did you get that stat?
The government's own site (https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2023/how-many-people-do-we-grant-protection-to#:~:text=There were 67,337 asylum applications (relating to 84,425 people) in,in 2002 (84,132 applications).) only has data til end '23 and suggests there were 74,172 decisions made, of which 67% were granted (49,600ish)
Do you want to have a wild stab in the dark about whether that was more than twice as many or less than half as many as were granted in Germany?
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Absolute state of this list. Appalling set of individuals.
He hasn't started yet, loads of inertia yet to over come to get things moving.
I reckon there is about two years of 'siting' of targets, maybe the odd improvement here and there, to come first, then third year he starts to make some incremental gains and fourth year the main aims and 'ways and means' become clear.... enough to get Labour re-elected in 2029.
Then part two of the actual 'moving the dial' kicks in around 2030-32.
It all depends on how much 'head wind' he encounters, both from other parties, notably Reform (if his plans for ending the boat saga doesn't work) and what are the likely other 'unplanned or unavoidable 'events', plus the 'revolts' occurring in Labour that will slow him down or drive him off course.
It also all depends on the man himself and the people immediately around him, Starmer doesn't need to be an all 'singing and dancing populist', a Blair Mk2, etc. he just needs to be a man who sets his face like flint and gets the job done.
In my opinion there is no quick fix, and if the dial doesn't move, in the next ten years, it never will.
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As far as tories go these days, they could do a lot worse than Tugendhat (see rest of the list)
Nah he's turning into a cnut as well. They are all toxic.
I find it hilarious that you think any of this makes sense.
Patel has got no chance. All her mates have left and she had record high levels of immigration when she was in charge.
.... I take you are of a different opinion, care to share?