Westminster Politics 2024-2029

NHS queues mean most Britons expect to pay for healthcare, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/society...tons-expect-to-pay-for-healthcare-says-report

Most people in the UK now believe they will have to spend their own money on private healthcare for routine services such as dentistry, physiotherapy and counselling because they won’t be able to get them quickly on the NHS, pioneering new research has found.

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says its findings, based on extensive focus group analysis, is evidence that Britons have undergone a “critical shift in expectations” about the health service’s capacity to meet their needs.

For the first time, the foundation has adjusted its minimum income standard, which sets out what working-age adults believe is the base level of money they need to live a decent life in the UK, to include £200 a year for spending on private health care.

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Country's finished.
"It's the UK....but not as we know it Frosty (Jim!)"..........Mr Spock ;)
 
Are the tories running for President now or something?

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When did this become a thing in UK politics?
 
NHS queues mean most Britons expect to pay for healthcare, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/society...tons-expect-to-pay-for-healthcare-says-report

Most people in the UK now believe they will have to spend their own money on private healthcare for routine services such as dentistry, physiotherapy and counselling because they won’t be able to get them quickly on the NHS, pioneering new research has found.

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation says its findings, based on extensive focus group analysis, is evidence that Britons have undergone a “critical shift in expectations” about the health service’s capacity to meet their needs.

For the first time, the foundation has adjusted its minimum income standard, which sets out what working-age adults believe is the base level of money they need to live a decent life in the UK, to include £200 a year for spending on private health care.

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Country's finished.
You get much change from that £200 from an initial consultation with a specialist, let alone treatment, and more likely it will cost north of £300.
 
You get much change from that £200 from an initial consultation with a specialist, let alone treatment, and more likely it will cost north of £300.
That amount woudn't get you in the door TBH!
 
Yes. WHat you have here is a front bench made entirely of beurocratic, overambitious idiots outsourcing all policy to the corporate sociopaths who own them.

You want economy growth. Lets make travelling around the country more expensive, further isolating businesses not located in the south east and london. The tories were utterly corrupt, these guys are even worse. Corrupt and stupid.



And I know its only a small amount, but here is the thing, these are cards aimed at young people and the elderly. They will see its more expensive and travel less. The amount involved is less important than the perception of increased costs. Businesses are struggling all over the country, town centres are becoming wastelands, we need to encourage consumers not discourage them.
 
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And I know its only a small amount, but here is the thing, these are cards aimed at young people and the elderly. They will see its more expensive and travel less. The amount involved is less important than the perception of increased costs. Businesses are struggling all over the country, town centres are becoming wastelands, we need to encourage consumers not discourage them.
I think you're overblowing this somewhat, it's about £2 less discount on a ticket price of around £71 but I guess the optics makes the headlines more than the reality.

The focus that people should be putting their energy into is the actual cost of the tickets, that's what is actually ensuring people travel less on rail, not subsidised travel benefits.
 
Yes, thats what they should be prioritising.

That, and banning smoking in beer gardens.

Absolute top of the list issues.
It’s going to be 4 years of the most annoying substitute teacher.
That’s great news to be fair! clearly aimed at children, I’d be delighted with that with a little boy.
Tbh vapes are god awful. But I remember the Biden administration wanting to do the same thing but seeing counter arguments showing that it could result in people going back onto cigarettes.
 
It’s going to be 4 years of the most annoying substitute teacher.

Tbh vapes are god awful. But I remember the Biden administration wanting to do the same thing but seeing counter arguments showing that it could result in people going back onto cigarettes.
I think cigarettes are harder for children to get hold of and also can imagine less children who have never smoked before wanting to get into smoking over bubblegum flavour vapes.
 
Are the tories running for President now or something?

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When did this become a thing in UK politics?

They look bored as feck. Assume that's why they got the youngest people they could find to sit behind him so they wouldn't doze off at least. Like the guy on the right.
 
This isn't new, it's been consulted on extensively both uk-wide and within Scotland. Was a policy of the last government and current SNP administration up north.
I cant believe this has been allowed to ever be a thing. I think regulation should be a first step to bringing products to the market. The first question to allowing products should be whether a new product causes more problems than it solves. This is a clear yes, it does.
 
I think cigarettes are harder for children to get hold of and also can imagine less children who have never smoked before wanting to get into smoking over bubblegum flavour vapes.
Agree and I’m not against a ban(Although the black market is so massive that access to vapes will be sadly pretty easy).

The arguments against the ban tend to come from….the tobacco industry so likely just bullshit. But well we live in such dystopian dumb world that I can never write off a future where Marlboro makes a come back because we’ve correctly banned super bubblegum mango juiced vapes.
 
Agree and I’m not against a ban(Although the black market is so massive that access to vapes will be sadly pretty easy).

The arguments against the ban tend to come from….the tobacco industry so likely just bullshit. But well we live in such dystopian dumb world that I can never write off a future where Marlboro makes a come back because we’ve correctly banned super bubblegum mango juiced vapes.
So true.
 
I think cigarettes are harder for children to get hold of and also can imagine less children who have never smoked before wanting to get into smoking over bubblegum flavour vapes.
Yeah. It's become more socially acceptable to "vape" then it has been to smoke actual cigs in the last decade.
 
Grown up politics is back!
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Followed by telling an impoverished pensioner to stop crying your heart out. Or maybe offer them a standalone heater because she's electric? It's not like they're going to live forever!

Wonderwall.
 
Most shocking thing about this is that it wasn't sweet square who posted it.
I’m a socialist so I’m all for collective and shared Starmer hating.
Followed by telling an impoverished pensioner to stop crying your heart out. Or maybe offer them a standalone heater because she's electric? It's not like they're going to live forever!

Wonderwall.
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You would think Labour are getting all of these unpopular decisions out of the way and taking the hit on their approval ratings in the hope that they can turn the economy around in time for the next election. Right now they are looking more ruthless than the Tories though so they had better hope the gamble pays off.