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This thread will be fun if we lose today.
Pretty much. We’re in a bit of good form again so the players are “likeable”.Good player = likeable?
Thats it in a nutshell. If we had lost the last 3 games, this thread would have been the opposite.Play good you are likeable, play shit you are hateable. Yes I am this simple.
Thanks for the info, but I haven't said anything about a win or a loss. I mentioned a "bad performance". Apart from that, you are right of course, as long as you are trying, people will not be as ferocious as they could be. But the OP was talking about players being likeable, which I guess is further down the line than "not being hated".It's not about winning or losing, it's about attitude and work ethic. We'll never win every game, but as long as they put in the effort they won't be hated
Good player = likeable?
Eric Bailly too.Nah. Mata was alright here, nothing special and he was likeable.
Eric Bailly too.
You guys like Kepa again, dont you?Good player = likeable?
This is the first time since 2012 I feel joy thinking about our squad. We got some special players in there now for sure
Nice post and good timing on it too. I have been thinking the same thing.I'm not talking about Sanchez and his piano playing and dog photos, or Mata with his cheeky face ending his blogs with "hugs". I'm talking about seeing players do their talking on the pitch again.
When Casemiro first joined he said all of the right things, but not many of us cared about that. We've all been here before time and again, and inevitably their match performances didn't back up the social media bravado. But over the last couple of months he's become a favourite of mine because of his class on and off the ball, and the attitude he shows on the pitch. In short; he wasn't bullshitting when he said he had come here to play football.
Even Shaw, who for years has just seemed like a bit of a lazy twat, is changing people's opinions. And it wasn't any tweets or photos of him shouting at the camera with raised fists that have changed that perception. It's because he's running his fat arse off and playing intelligently.
So who gets your award for "I'm quietly optimistic that they're proud to play for us"?
Yeah, this bit is bang on. They haven't got "the fear" as Scotland fans call it, where every game they're just waiting for the moment they go a goal down, and then afterwards it's just "oh well, this is what we expected anyway."Now they are starting to keep their heads up when things go wrong. They are developing team resilience. They are tough mentally now.
Fortunately we still doMight not like them again after the game v Chelsea.
Yeah heaping it all on the players lacking effort and just being in it for the money is also ignoring the fact that every one of our players is currently losing a heap of money because they are not playing Champions league football. Even if they were motivated by money alone, surely then they would be giving it there all to get top 4 last year. Putting the issues of last season down to the players not caring/trying just ignores basic human psychology which is apparent watching any struggling football team.We have said this before though and it's one of the reasons I dislike the battering the players get when we lose games from fans and pundits.
For me, it's gotten too easy to simply say that players don't care. I understand they earn a tonne of money but the majority didn't get where they got without being ultra-competitive, driven individuals.
Confidence is huge in football. The difference between a 'likeable' team that work hard and a bunch of lazy, layabout time-wasters can be a bit of confidence, some organisation and a good team spirit
Play good you are likeable, play shit you are hateable. Yes I am this simple.
Hehe, jeps!Fortunately we still do
I wouldn't say a lot. I still have nightmares of Maguire, Shaw, McFred, AWB and now Ronaldo
I think getting rid of the Pogba and Lingard defo helped make our social media reputation more tolerable though
DDG to be fair, even at his worse isnt dislikeable. Like fred, He tries and tries.. Just the ability wasn't there.I like Martinez. He’s a scrapper and a bloody good footballer . In my opinion our player of the season to date.
Since I saw him make a bee line for Roy Keane to shake his hand before the Liverpool game I like Casemiro. I think his quality is obvious.
I like Eriksen. He’s a class footballer.
I like Antony. Think he has to stuff to go on to big things.
I like Varane. Always thought he was quality .
Rashford , Bruno , Sancho, McFred, Dalot, Shaw & DdG are getting there.
It only takes a few leaders to influence the majority. Last year the leaders ( both separate) were Ronaldo and Maguire, this year it’s hard to tell… but some or all of Casemiro, Varane, Martinez, FernandesFernandes, Casemiro, Martinez, varane, de gea, shaw, malacia, Antony, garnacho, eriksen, sabitzer, awb, dalot, rashford so basically the whole damn team.
Last season hated most of the same players. Just couldn't see the effort. This season, you can see how much they are willing to sacrifice on the pitch. Just needs to continue along the same standards as a drop will be easily noticable.