He'll be able to get himself an Ivor Dewdneys every Saturday from the Pasty van that stops outside Home Park
Wayne Rooney | Leaves Plymouth by Mutual Consent
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A what?
Plymouths best Pasty. My sister lives down there now, and hired the pasty van to be outside the church when she got married. Kept us fuelled up until the meal later
https://ivordewdney.co.uk/
Grew up on them, had them whenever we visited the Grandparents. Still order a frozen box of them from time to time
I really want to try one now. Damn you.
He's going to be badly up against it if (as expected) Cooper and Whitaker both leave this summer.
He was the man who killed Apollo Creed
He needs to lose some weight does our Wazza. Congratulations on the new job though. Hope he does well
Cornish Pasty in Devon. I’ve heard it all now. Just drive an hour and get a proper one.
We used to have an Ivor dewney shop in shopping centre near where I live got to say they were absolutely delicious
these aren't Cornish pasties, they are Devon pasties.
Happily cross the border to see family and do little pasty tour. Ann's , Gear farm etc
My man
IMO, he’s jumped into managing far too quickly. It’s the ego problem a lot of these star players have and chairmen are too quick to humour them with managerial roles.
He should have spent a good period working as a coach under other managers honing his skills first.
He should have spent a good period working as a coach under other managers honing his skills first.
I agree.
Football is full of Nepotistic behaviour. I can't think of too many professions where top jobs in the field go to friends so often. It looks like those days are slowly changing. Funnily enough, Mourinho is a great example of someone working their way from the bottom to win the biggest of prizes.
He's relegating another club, isn't he? 3-0 down on opening day to a relegation rival, completely dominated, could've been 5 down, barely had a shot ...
4-0.
Anyone read or seen why he’s having such a hard time managing? I would guess it’s because his own generational skills were both innate and the result of relentless drive. I’m not sure either of those things can be coached into a player, plus he hasn’t been around that skill level of players since he was probably 9, so maybe he just can’t fathom why they don’t go out and be brilliant. ?
People have been sacked for less
I think there’s an obvious lack of motivational communication skills, whenever you hear him speak he doesn’t strike you as the most gifted of communicators. I think he’s much of the Keane mould which so far hasn’t lead the way to success management wise.
I know Keane had early success with Sunderland but it soon went afoul, Rooneys yet to have his break and he may never.
I think they can work as pundits but you wouldn’t expect them to be as insightful as Neville or Carragher, they’re good for sound bites but not for being the figurehead on sidelines.
There was an interview with a player who played under him and it was exactly that. His skills were so innate and he’s trying to tell players to do something they can’t do. Like he’d say ‘ok receive it here and then ping it there, or then drive into that space’ and the players were thinking yeh, we can’t do that we’re not Wayne Rooney. Some great players have a hard time explaining exactly how and why they could do something they found so natural. Henry was rumoured to be the same as a coach (he seems to be improving based on the Olympics)
Might be a very short stint if they play them way they did today.
When I coached, I had my best player try to teach the worst players how to do certain skills. He couldn’t explain what his feet were doing, either. But at least it gave me a few minutes rest.
Don't think Wednesday are a threat to go down, I think they are predicted to finish mid table. Wednesday looked great today, but hard to stay how much that had to do with Plymouth looking so terrible.He's relegating another club, isn't he? 3-0 down on opening day to a relegation rival, completely dominated, could've been 5 down, barely had a shot ...
Fair play to Rooney, not giving up on trying to be a manager, but it looks like he's just not cut out for it.
Whoever said, above, that things that he finds easy, the players he's coaching aren't good enough to replicate, seems to be on to something.
Maybe he'd be better as a youth coach at United, where there will be young players who have genuine quality and can do some of the things Rooney found so easy and instinctive.
Whoever said, above, that things that he finds easy, the players he's coaching aren't good enough to replicate, seems to be on to something.
Maybe he'd be better as a youth coach at United, where there will be young players who have genuine quality and can do some of the things Rooney found so easy and instinctive.
He needs to be an assistant somewhere for some time from a good manager and learn the trade.
Looks to have the absolute touch of turd with management unfortunately.
He doesn't seem that bright. His teams always play very outdated football.
He was great on Stick to Football. Just a funny man with loads of stories and not afraid to put an opinion out there and take the piss out of himself. I think he's very close to just never doing this management shit again.
As opposed to the highest academic achievement that you get with Premier League managers, of course.
Compared to pl managers he doesn't seem bright.
Think some on here are low-key wishing for his downfall.
Crazy to write off their season at 7pm on August 11th.
Crazy to write off their season at 7pm on August 11th.
Not sure that's a fair characterisation, most would be pleased to see him succeed but can't deny the evidence of what's right in front of them giving his managerial history to date. The question mark now is how he keeps getting any jobs and what the decision to hire is being based on when the likes of Liam Rosenior will inevitably slip further and further down the employment ladder till they disappear from it altogether despite showing good promise in tricky situations.
PS: I'll leave others to figure out why ive singled out Rosenior, although I don't lay the blame for this issue at Rooney's door, he is simply a symptom of a problem.
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I'd say Sheffield Wednesday will end up sacking Danny Rohl before Plymouth sack Rooney.
I feel like he was doing a decent job under horrible circumstances at Derby, but I might be misremembering. Since then things have been dreadful, and it doesn't help that the general public seem to be frothing at the possibility of sticking the boot in every time something goes awry.
Can't imagine many countries have a national top goalscorer that the supporters are so desperate to hate.
Can't imagine many countries have a national top goalscorer that the supporters are so desperate to hate.
Why would you say that? Rohl is one of the best young managers in the game. If Wednesday lose him it will because some team higher up the food chain have poached him.
It's hard to say how good of a manager he may or may not be because he just can't pick a job to save his life.
Every club he's gone to have been up to their necks in shit.
Every club he's gone to have been up to their necks in shit.
They where absolutely shocking today. Not a long stint with performances like these.
It's the way he picks teams up and they absolutely turn to utter pony from the word go.
@wr8_utd , at least someone has had a worse day. maybe.
Because managers can’t just rely on game intelligence. They need actual intelligence to verbalise their training/tactics and emotional intelligence to manage a group of men. He has neither