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Pexbo said:
Because he consolidated his power when Ferguson left. He should have been sold 4 years ago., we've been stuck with him on an eye watering wage ever since.
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and all the other years where you claim he was below average and not reaching his talent, why was he never replaced then? Face it, Rooney is a legend, has the most goals for our club and has been superb. He is just knackered from playing flat out at the top level since 16. This idea that Rooneys some fat slob that gets picked is a joke.

Multiple people watch him train Daily for 10+ years, if he wasa failing drills, being poor / unfit or not looking after his body people would know and it was stop. The guy is just knackered from being Manchester Uniteds main man for more then a decade. There isn't a secret yoga technique or diet that would have helped him. He is just physically fecked.
 
Zii said:
and all the other years where you claim he was below average and not reaching his talent, why was he never replaced then? Face it, Rooney is a legend, has the most goals for our club and has been superb. He is just knackered from playing flat out at the top level since 16
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Wrong bloke mate.
 
Zii said:
Why has he outlasted all the strikers we have signed if he is so bad? He has always played and always been kept over the other strikers. Manchester are a world famous team they can sign almost anyone yet Rooney still remains. You thinks thats because he is lucky, overrated or english?
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Exactly because his name is rooney, and he sells shirts.

Why is it if he's a world class striker we always play someone else on top?
 
Sky1981 said:
Exactly because his name is rooney, and he sells shirts.

Why is it if he's a world class striker we always play someone else on top?
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Exactly, anyone that thinks any club that is going to have Rooney next season isn't thinking about commercial influx first is gassed
 
Sky1981 said:
Exactly because his name is rooney, and he sells shirts.

Why is it if he's a world class striker we always play someone else on top?
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Plus no club will be stupid enough to pay him the wages that we're paying him.
 
Sky1981 said:
Exactly because his name is rooney, and he sells shirts.

Why is it if he's a world class striker we always play someone else on top?
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I said why DID he displace all those other strikers. People act like he has been this shit player that is hanging around by luck, he has been amazing for us. Thats why he displaced all those strikers, he made his own name through amazing play.
 
Treble said:
Costa made Atleti champions in a competition with Messi's Barca and Ronaldo's Madrid, matching their goals in the league while playing for a far more defensive team. And, at the same time, he led them to the CL final, scoring overall 37 goals this season.

Rooney's best season was 09/10 when United competed with far less impressive teams in the PL, not with Barcelona and Real. And United didn't reach the CL final either. Costa's 13/14 season trumps any season that Rooney had for United. Don't mention 10/11 when Rooney was crap for half a season. He had a great second half of the season, not a great season overall.

But what if Rooney didn't get injured towards the end of the 09/10 season? He could have led United to glory? Maybe, or maybe not. It's entirely hypothetical. Thing is, he scored 34 goals and won nothing big. Whereas Costa matched Ronaldo's and Messi's output while playing in a far less attacking team and led Atleti to the CL final.

All in all, there are plenty of players with better individual seasons than Rooney. Those two 34 goal seasons were excellent but many other players had better sasons. What elevates Rooney above Costa and other players is his overall career, not his best seasons.
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Yeah he did, and Rooney made United champions 5 times in the most competitive league in the world, reaching 3 CL finals in the process, winning one. You are singling out one Diego Costa season, whereas Rooney has been a huge part of a title-winning side several times. We might not have lost the league in 09/10 had Drogba been ruled offside at OT, and we lost on goal difference in 11/12 when Rooney scored around 34 again. Diego Costa's Atleti side was much stronger than either of those 2 United sides.

That's what I mean - there are plenty of players with better individual seasons than Rooney, but he's had many great seasons. His amazing 09/10 is being understated because of how bad he has been the last couple of seasons. During 09/10, the general consensus (and not just by United fans) was that he was in the tier directly below Ronaldo and Messi. He was almost matching them for goals, in a vastly inferior side too, until the Bayern game where he was injured.
 
Cantona'sCollar said:
Yeah he did, and Rooney made United champions 5 times in the most competitive league in the world, reaching 3 CL finals in the process, winning one. You are singling out one Diego Costa season, whereas Rooney has been a huge part of a title-winning side several times. We might not have lost the league in 09/10 had Drogba been ruled offside at OT, and we lost on goal difference in 11/12 when Rooney scored around 34 again. Diego Costa's Atleti side was much stronger than either of those 2 United sides.

That's what I mean - there are plenty of players with better individual seasons than Rooney, but he's had many great seasons. His amazing 09/10 is being understated because of how bad he has been the last couple of seasons. During 09/10, the general consensus (and not just by United fans) was that he was in the tier directly below Ronaldo and Messi. He was almost matching them for goals, in a vastly inferior side too, until the Bayern game where he was injured.
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There's a lot to disagree with in this post, and what I bolded might be the worst. Go back and look at our squads. VDS, DDG, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Scholes, Fletcher, Nani, Valencia, Carrick, and Giggs were excellent for significant portions of those seasons, and are equal to or better than most of their Atleti equivalents.
 
berbatrick said:
There's a lot to disagree with in this post, and what I bolded might be the worst. Go back and look at our squads. VDS, DDG, Rio, Vidic, Evra, Scholes, Fletcher, Nani, Valencia, Carrick, and Giggs were excellent for significant portions of those seasons, and are equal to or better than most of their Atleti equivalents.
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Our squad was better, agreed, but the Atleti team that won the title (ahead of Barca and Real) was better than our 09/10 and 11/12 sides, imo. Definitely the 11/12, at least. It was nowhere near as good as 07/08, 08/09, though. That Atleti side was more than the sum of its parts.
 
Zii said:
I said why DID he displace all those other strikers. People act like he has been this shit player that is hanging around by luck, he has been amazing for us. Thats why he displaced all those strikers, he made his own name through amazing play.
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He's the one being played all over the park to accomodate those strikers, not the other way around
 
The last few years he has been like a ball and chain to our team, holding us back in the football pitch in so many ways. I just can't wait for him to be gone. Hopefully the end is near.
 
Anustart89 said:
Plus no club will be stupid enough to pay him the wages that we're paying him.
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Pretty sure a lot of Chinese clubs would pay him far more than we pay him. If Tevez can get 400k plus a week, Rooney can at least expect to match that. Get with the times....
 
Out again drinking beer until all hours in a casino now. (nothing wrong with casino's actually) It's more being out until all hours knocking back the beers. This is not really acceptable when we are playing matches every 3 days now. Last week he was knocking back stella's. I wonder whether he has some form of depression.It was mentioned on here a long time ago.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/wayne-rooney-racks-up-50000-10418459
 
Phil Jones 79 said:
Out again drinking beer until all hours in a casino now. (nothing wrong with casino's actually) It's more being out until all hours knocking back the beers. This is not really acceptable when we are playing matches every 3 days now. Last week he was knocking back stella's. I wonder whether he has some form of depression.It was mentioned on here a long time ago.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/wayne-rooney-racks-up-50000-10418459
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Dear me, £500,000? I guess this is what happens when you don't earn what you're paid.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's bs though.
 
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Phil Jones 79 said:
Out again drinking beer until all hours in a casino now. (nothing wrong with casino's actually) It's more being out until all hours knocking back the beers. This is not really acceptable when we are playing matches every 3 days now. Last week he was knocking back stella's. I wonder whether he has some form of depression.It was mentioned on here a long time ago.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/wayne-rooney-racks-up-50000-10418459
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If it's legit, as they are using 5 year old pictures, then he is an absolute disgrace.
 
From the article:

Rooney, 31, went to the casino, where he has a private account, after United’s Europa League home win over FC Rostov on March 16.

The United skipper had not played because of injury and watched the game from a box at Old Trafford.
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Sounds like Colleen takes the kids away most weekends at the moment.
 
He should not be captain of Man Utd.
You hear these things and have to question his professionalism and dedication.
I keep saying it. How can you demand so much from the rest of the sqaud when this is your captain and leader?
 
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He's going to be broke by the time he's 40 if that's how he spends his money. I just can't see how he'll make any sort of decent money from anything after he retires. He'll never be a good manager or pundit since he's dumb as a bag of bricks and no-one can understand what he says. He better hope sponsors still think he's valuable after he gives up football.

Maybe he can do like King Eric and try out that acting lark?
 
Red_toad said:
Pretty sure a lot of Chinese clubs would pay him far more than we pay him. If Tevez can get 400k plus a week, Rooney can at least expect to match that. Get with the times....
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Tevez is a much better player than Wayne at the moment. Not really sure there is any club in the world that would be willing to pay what he is paid now.
 
I'm not making excuses for his behaviour but the article says he was on his own even though there's a picture of Wes Brown sitting next to him.
 
If these stories are right plus the boozing while on England duty earlier this season and Rooney struggling for form at the same time it hardly looks like a model professional does it? How come so many are defending him both ex players and pundits based on previous achievements. What message is it sending to young players? Fergie had it right when he wanted to get rid of Rooney and Fergie always looked forward and made it clear to all that you could not rest on your laurels. It sure seems to me that Rooney has not taken notice of that.
 
Acole9 said:
I'm not making excuses for his behaviour but the article says he was on his own even though there's a picture of Wes Brown sitting next to him.
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That's a picture from 2012 in America. I guess they didn't have a picture of this one.
 
If he is doing this sort of stuff in Manchester (boozing and gambling alone until the early hours), you dread to think what he'd get up to somewhere like China where he could end up genuinely isolated.
 
MoskvaRed said:
If he is doing this sort of stuff in Manchester (boozing and gambling alone until the early hours), you dread to think what he'd get up to somewhere like China where he could end up genuinely isolated.
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Yeah... Myself, I prioritise the club not wasting another £25m on wages over worrying about his mental state, which has been a disaster ever since Sir David Moyes' £300k master move.
 
He's already had a full career already; 15 years at the top level is a stretch for anybody, let alone somebody with a pub league physique. His awful professionalism and all-action style of play have certainly taken their toll on his performance as well; regardless, he's one of the greatest players in English football history and should be acknowledged as such.

Funny that George Best is held in much higher esteem despite, being an absolute waster in terms of talent to longevity and achievement.
 
spwd said:
So when did this allegedly happen, was it last night?
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Supposedly after our Euro match on March 16th. But this, and the other recent article of him drinking beer with a "mystery brunette" are not putting him in very good light at the moment for sure.

Not against footballers drinking, but on the other hand I don't want to hear about our captain and top earner staying up till 2am gambling and drinking either, specially if he's on the injury list at the time too
 
We need an rvn said:
Supposedly after our Euro match on March 16th. But this, and the other recent article of him drinking beer with a "mystery brunette" are not putting him in very good light at the moment for sure.

Not against footballers drinking, but on the other hand I don't want to hear about our captain and top earner staying up till 2am gambling and drinking either, specially if he's on the injury list at the time too
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Ah ok, cheers.
Yeah completely agree, especially after saying he's got nothing to prove, but unfortunately I think he's suffering with depression which Is horrible but the signs are there, he needs stronger people around him not just a load of yes men who perhaps keep telling him he's still great like the media do.
 
spwd said:
Ah ok, cheers.
Yeah completely agree, especially after saying he's got nothing to prove, but unfortunately I think he's suffering with depression which Is horrible but the signs are there, he needs stronger people around him not just a load of yes men who perhaps keep telling him he's still great like the media do.
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Although he has a history of gambling, I agree in that he looks like a man who's struggling at the moment. Putting how much he earns to one side - he knows his career is coming to an end and earnings (unless he moves to China) will reduce, rumoured marriage trouble and losing his place and position within the club - all this is enough to make anyone depressed and maybe he just doesn't know how to cope. Definitely looks like he needs help
 
I can't wait to he isn't our official club captain. He was such a good player when he was young, it's a shame how it's all ending at United. On and off the pitch it's all gone wrong, he's just burned out and taking the piss. The amount of money he's taking out of the club weekly is scandalous. The man is so out of shape, if he doesn't have the desire to do for United, he should do it for himself. Drinking Stella and gambling isn't going to attract many potential buyers. I understand some of the media stories are bs, there has always been a lot of smoke surrounding Rooney's career.
 
spwd said:
So when did this allegedly happen, was it last night?
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Per the article, the night we were playing Rostov away. He lost £500k then.

And he was also back there last Sunday (after Arsenal match???), he only lost £200 then.
 
How can anyone claim to know how much he lost, if he is in a VIP area and the casino will do everything possible to keep privacy for it's best customers?
 
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