Maybe let him visit Tony Robbins to get some proper coaching?
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It's hard to argue against that.
It really does go from bad to worse doesn't it for Wayne.
Fergie had his number in his last year. He knew he was on the decline & our other managers should have realised it too. Allowing Moyes to extend his already ridiculous contract was ludicrous by Woody.
He will be out in the summer, probably to the MLS.
He will be out in the summer, probably to the MLS.
I think he's nailed on to go and play there for a few seasons. He desperately just wants to be allowed to sit in midfield, crab shuffle 3km per game and float some passes around.
He(SAF) basically set it up in such a way that Moyes could pitch him off on some unsuspecting team(and Mourinho/Cheslea were all up in that), and make it look his fault if the fans didn't take kindly to it. Proper "damage was done, what could I do?" excuse. Moyes moves forward with RvP, Kagawa, Welbeck, Chicharito.....
Moyes fecked it though.....
He was so bad. The 2 same shots he curled over the bar, the missed chance straight at Cech and the two tackles where he couldnt foul the player summed up his game. He is a laughing stock
That performance 
And the funny thing is, I dont know if he was better or worse than I thought he would be.
So is anybody actually still defending him or making a case for him to be a United player? All I see as his defence nowadays is "well, he was better than x or y"...
Its been the longest testimonial ive seen.
At least with the likes of Giggs, Lampard, Gerrard in their final years, they were putting in some decent corners / free kicks.
I dont know what he actually contributes except dropping deep under no pressure to float it out to the right.
or to do that fake press thats been mentioned.
or to chase after refs and bang the ground in disappointment.
And the funny thing is, I dont know if he was better or worse than I thought he would be.So is anybody actually still defending him or making a case for him to be a United player? All I see as his defence nowadays is "well, he was better than x or y"...
Its been the longest testimonial ive seen.
At least with the likes of Giggs, Lampard, Gerrard in their final years, they were putting in some decent corners / free kicks.
I dont know what he actually contributes except dropping deep under no pressure to float it out to the right.
or to do that fake press thats been mentioned.
or to chase after refs and bang the ground in disappointment.
There's not a chance he's here next season.
I mentioned it earlier when ozil was on the ball and Rooney was trying to, well I don't really know what he was trying to do but ozil just ignored his attempts like you would a 5 year old it was hilarious
That's fecking brilliant
Moyes acted like he'd never seen Kagawa and Chcharito play in his life it was bizarre.
I said that was acceptably okay performance for me because he was not that bad by Rooney's standard for last couple of years. At least his first touch was not as unbearable as last year. Plus, for sure he'll be sold to China next season, I don't see any point of bashing him any more. Just take him a retired legend, you will feel much better about him.
I can't believe how bad he is now.
It's painful.
It's painful.
The English journalists have turned against him.
It was at the moment that they realised that his perfomances were negatively affecting England that they turned.
Obliviously ignored his poor United form for years.
It's the recent speed of his decline in every aspect of his game that has shocked me. For sure he was going to lose pace....but literally all of his game has deteriorated massively. It's like we suddenly put a non league 40 year old player in the team...!
Its actually quite sad to see how poor he is these days. Instead of remembering his sheer brilliance for multiple seasons, I'll remember the Rooney of today 
He cannot continue at a Premiership level.
If he goes to Everton it'll only continue to be a sorry sight everytime he walks on the pitch.
If he goes to Everton it'll only continue to be a sorry sight everytime he walks on the pitch.
It was a shame to see how poor he was yesterday. He can't cut it for any top team anymore, would probably be better off joining Burnley or someone.
Annoys me that you see players like Zlatan, Ronaldo, even Defoe all older than him, played more games and still they are able to keep in shape. Rooney just seems quite happy to take on the fact he is older and not going to be as fit anymore.
Annoys me that you see players like Zlatan, Ronaldo, even Defoe all older than him, played more games and still they are able to keep in shape. Rooney just seems quite happy to take on the fact he is older and not going to be as fit anymore.
its probably the case
In fairness to Moyes, Rooney was always 'the one that got away' from him, and he regreted not getting the chance to work with him as he developed into a world class player, so I can see why he was keen to keep him at Utd. Lets face it, Moyes didnt seem to have a clue about players based on his so called scouting network, so just thought with his heart not his head. Higher ups should of cautioned against the contract length.
He can hide behind DNA but look Ibra as 35/36 and imagine Rooney at 35. I dont want to ignore DNA but think he let him self go,Ibra kept doing shit to stay in proper shape.
Do you think Ibra would still be at this level if he'd have played the game as Rooney did?
I want Rooney gone as much as the next fan but to be having a go at him for lifestyle stuff is over the top. As well as it not being an informed opinion we still got 8 top years out of him. For a striker that's very good.
Why is it over the top? There have been so many reports and pictures of him out boozing and smoking over the years. Saying its all genetics or playing from an early age is turning a blind eye to the importance of a good lifestyle. See Ibra, Ronaldo, Giggs and plenty of others. We've paid him millions, the least he can do is look after himself.
Exactly - people always argue he had more raw talent than Ronaldo but the biggest difference was in their application towards the physical side of the game. Ronaldo lives a super clean lifestyle, apparently spends a hideous amount of time in the gym and as a result is one of the greatest attacking players of all time. In a decade where football has come on leaps and bounds in sports science there is really no excuse, save a lazy atittude, for players not being in fantastic shape - they are professional athletes after all.
So what exactly is to blame for his issues according to you, he takes a few games at the very least to get fit every start of the season. That definitely is not down to his lifestyle choices how could it be, i mean he isn't unfit because he doesn't look after himself in off season, because that never leads to fitness issues.
Fact is rooney is a lazy player who never took care of himself and he and his lifestyle are at the fault. Rooney played since 16-17 but so did giggs how is it that rooney looks like he won't last in pl at 35 while giggs was here even after 35. This was an issue that didn't hurt him as a 24 year old but at 32 it is a serious problem because he isn't young anymore so he can't get his fitness back at the same rate he did at 24, sadly rooney is too thick to understand that. Which is why we hear reports of him drinking until 3 am a day or 2 before the match.
What about all the players who didn't go on at the top level till they were 35? Were they all lazy? I've had this debate before and the same comparisons always get brought up. Ibra, Giggs, Ronaldo, Totti etc.
I'm not disputing he could have done more but as a striker we got 8 top years out of him. That's a rarity in itself and should be enough.
You're also taking reports as gospel.
There's absolutely no way it's only his genetics that are to blame for him being so terrible now. He's only 31.
You'd expect him to decline as he got older but to this extent? He's playing like he's 50.
You'd expect him to decline as he got older but to this extent? He's playing like he's 50.
Did you not find it strange to see the pictures of him shitfaced after the England game this winter badly needing to get into shape for United and supposed to be in the England team a few day´s later? A great model professional and role model as captain of both club and country? A top sportsman today simply can not afford to do that and look at how Ibra,Ronaldo and Messi take care of them selves. Giggs was able to prolong his career to 40 by taking good care of him self while Rooney does not seem to have that desire.
Problem is, Rooney was defended by his buddies in the media for that long he has been able to get away with being poor and resting on his laurels for 2-3 years prior to this year. It's only now some simply can't defend him anymore. Neville was an embarrassment on commentary yesterday, simply would not say a bad word about Rooney.
It's not even just his physical attributes though, he can't even do the basics any more. I've never seen anyone fall as badly as he has.
He's genuinely went from world class to championship standard over a few years. It's ridiculous.
I was thinking that too. But maybe Shevchenko at Chelsea would be similar? Fairly sure he was the same age as Rooney is now and he was absolutely shite from the moment he set foot in England. Falcao would have been in that same category but he's having an Indian summer in France. So it is possible that Rooney could do something similar somewhere else. Very unlikely though.
He plays like an amateur who's feet can't do what his brain wants them to do because he's too knackered. His physical shape and his comfort are what has affected his game. The only time this season he's put in any kind of performances were when he was getting criticised after his drunken photos came out and he felt he had a point to prove. Once that died down the comfort set in again. Even at his best he was prone to it.
Please get Rooney away from the club a.s.a.p. He´s a liability and we must move on, he´s simply being paid way to much money for giving nothing in return and how he´s defended by some of the media and former players is unbelivable. There is no player bigger than the club and this Rooney situation must be resolved. Mourinho at least has done something about the problem and now we need to finish clearing house and bring in talent worthy of those salaries.
The thing is Rooney hasn't suddenly physically declined, it has been happening for the past 5 years. There's no reason he should have peaked at 26 and then fallen off a cliff.
He is so slow to react. He sees a pass but is too slow to execute it but he plays it anyway and everything falls down.
It's infuriating
It's infuriating
I'd managed to erase the memory of Falcao playing for us. He was woeful as well like. At least with Falcao I always had the (misguided) hope that it would click for him mind.
I think Rooney is legitimately hopeless though.
Falcao has an excuse. He was coming from cruciate ligament damage to playing for one of the worst attacking sides in the most physically demanding league.
Watching our Wayne turn is painful. The amount of times his man turned him yesterday was embarrassing.
I think Mourinho has been exemplary in his handling of Rooney this season. The Rooney camp have been noticeably quiet, probably because with his occasional appearances the performances prove to them there really isn't anything to complain about!!
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