I think Gary was quite critical in a more subtle way.
He had said that he has been playing poorly and that even Rooney would say his best position is number 9 and basically said he got by at number 10 on sheer workrate.
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He had said that he has been playing poorly and that even Rooney would say his best position is number 9 and basically said he got by at number 10 on sheer workrate.
He didn't look happy with his captain in the second half
He offered nothing today - a passenger and the sheer lack of effort is baffling - even when he played badly in the past you could see he was trying hard but today he barely made himself available or ran faster than a trot
When he did sign that new deal, wasnt a large part of that also in image rights?..so maybe he can keep that..He has to take a paycut though, and I am not sure he would be willing to do that.
The Everton fans wont like that, if he is to go back, it has to be the real thing.
I realize I'm late, so which one of these is it this time:
1. Played out of position
2. CM's and DM's have been poor
3. The wingers were awful
4. Just coming back from injury
5. Other
I hate the fact that he's taking the place of another player that could be far more useful to the team.
1. Played out of position
2. CM's and DM's have been poor
3. The wingers were awful
4. Just coming back from injury
5. Other
I hate the fact that he's taking the place of another player that could be far more useful to the team.
I can see him turning into our version of John Terry, shite but somehow keeps playing. Must be an English thing.
Let's help he sorts it out or Van Gaal does.
Let's help he sorts it out or Van Gaal does.
Seriously Wayne..
You just need to listen to the commentary for that failed pass on our counter attack. Neville didn't even comment on it because he doesn't want to criticise Rooney.
Yes.There was a moment during the second half where he received the ball with loads of space behind him. Rather than taking the ball and turning into space he just passed it right back first-time. The defender he passed to (I think it was Blind, but not sure) didn't seem too happy about it.
Blind was livid. You could see.He's so far off it's incredible. He's becoming a big problem for us and I can see LVG doing a RvP on him in the summer
His role should be back up to Herrera and when Martial needs a rest at the moment, right now he is a complete deadweight.
I think it's Martial's fault Rooney didn't play well today. I mean, he was going all alone all the time, ignoring Rooney, taking people all by himself and occupying our Wayne's position at times. Who the feck he thinks he is coming straight into the team and looking two times better than Rooney looked in more than two years? It's definitely his fault, I would drop him because he might make people think Rooney is shite and we don't want that.
Also, it's van Gaal's fault because it's obvious that he is playing him out of position. He should move him to [insert position where he didn't play], which is obviously his natural position.
Also we should sell Mata because he makes Rooney looks shite and sign Messi to feed him with the passes. With Messi he could maybe even have a shot on goal.
Also, it's van Gaal's fault because it's obvious that he is playing him out of position. He should move him to [insert position where he didn't play], which is obviously his natural position.
Also we should sell Mata because he makes Rooney looks shite and sign Messi to feed him with the passes. With Messi he could maybe even have a shot on goal.
I'm in a pub and he's getting an absolute pasting from neutral fans.
I'm not even saying anything cause I don't want to be seen having a go at my own olayer infront of ABUs
My friend, you can't use Rooney as bait for anybody. If anything, we will need to pay Rooney or another club to take him off our hands.
LVG culled Falcao and RVP, who IMO were better than Rooney is now, so lets wait and see how this unravels.
If Rooney can get a decent tally by the end of the season, he will be safe, but if he scores less than 10 goals, LVG will definitely be thinking about getting rid of him.
The latest stats: 6 games into the season, he has scored zero goals
Almost sad to see that once upon a time him and Ronaldo were tearing teams up with moves like that and now he's stopping Memphis and Martial doing the same.
His most valuable contributions today were the crossfield ball to Mata and going down holding his head to relieve pressure at the end.
That tweet was before his second goal today
We should try to work some deal with Everton with Rooney and Barkley switching clubs. Rooney seems to have no fight or desire and seems uncomfortable in our current team, he would benefit from returning to Everton.
Showed today why he shouldn't be playing in behind the striker. If he's up front and not playing well, there's always the hope that he'll compensate with a goal. His game is just off right now though, and we can't afford to have him in a deeper role. If we're not playing him ahead of Martial (which we shouldn't at the moment), then he should be dropped. Herrera will offer us more in behind the striker.
Tries to do be the all action Rooney but his legs are gone. If he commits to be an out and out striker and not this bullshit 9.5 he can prolong his career. Give me Fellaini in the 10 over him. Moyes was right...Rooney has become soft.
He's on a longish contract and on a massive wage. After the Euros he should be retiring from international football because it's affecting his day job. He should follow Scholes' example.
I could imagine how assertive and explosive our attack down the middle would be with Barkley just behind Martial. However, if we are planning to offload Rooney, it would be at a club that can actually offered the wage he would command.Rooney is becoming the elephant in the room, that everyone does not want to talk about and is being ignored by our management team. He needs to play himself back into the team, as I believe Herrera should have never been dropped for him.
Shouldn't start for at least a few games. Would it be dead rude to recall Wilson already?
Does anyone still think he'll hit the 20 odd or so some people thought he would at the start of the season?
I honestly can't see how we can justify starting him.
I honestly can't see how we can justify starting him.
ouchMichael Cox's take on Rooney and Mane today: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/20/southampton-manchester-united-sadio-mane-tactics
I think I predicted something like 12 or 13. Honestly I think he could struggle to get even that, even if has already scored 3 (against Brugge).
Michael Cox's take on Rooney and Mane today: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/20/southampton-manchester-united-sadio-mane-tactics
Nice article. Pretty much summed my issue with Rooney in the first half. Might as well have been down to ten men with how non-existent his movement was.
They wouldn't have to, any deal would presumably include Rooney earning a severance package from United, and a large fee from United for Barkley that Everton could use towards a signing on fee for Rooney. It would end up costing United and arm and a leg but given his seemingly unending poor performances I think it's something the club should look at.
It would need to be a pretty complex deal but I'm sure it's possible, even if Rooney was unwilling to lose anything financially which he might even given his supposed love of Everton and supposed dislike of LVG's rigidity. As my initial post indicated, I only see this as a remote possibility due to Rooney looking completely unmotivated and uncomfortable for us - hence he might fancy a return to Everton even at the expense of monetary gain. If he goes sooner rather than later he'll still be in a position to negotiate for bigger perks from Everton (image rights, future roles at the club after his playing days etc)
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It has reached a point where his continued inclusion in the team is not only going to negatively effect us on the pitch but also cause disharmony amongst the squad, especially the poor swines he is keeping out of the team. Being captain he should be leading the charge but looks more akin to an albatross as the weeks go on.
He looks lost out there which only makes the fact LVG has repeatedly praised him for embodying his philosophy (being his best captain etc.) all the more baffling.
Edit# That vine is absolutely ridiculous, almost like he is deliberately taking the piss.
He looks lost out there which only makes the fact LVG has repeatedly praised him for embodying his philosophy (being his best captain etc.) all the more baffling.
Edit# That vine is absolutely ridiculous, almost like he is deliberately taking the piss.
You realise that Brugge never actually qualified for the CL?
Brugge were terrible, especially that 'B' team which they used against us because most of their first team were injured.
In any case, I tend to use EPL goals as the yard-stick and I believe that he probably will get 12-13 EPL goals, this year. But for a player on World record wages, I expect more.
In comparison, Falcao got 4 EPL goals last year, when he played roughly half a season. And Falcao is woeful/dire.
Half arsed Napoli scored 5 past them.
He's playing because he's Rooney.
You'd struggle to find a forward that has performed worse in the league thus far. He's been horrible.
Any other player would be dropped a long time ago.
Any other player would be dropped a long time ago.
Was Van Gaal bollocking him today when Soton player got a cramp?
How the hell are we going to sell him?
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