Totally agree with this.
And the idea that we owe Rooney anything after his behaviour and form in the last few years is silly in my opinion.
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Totally agree with this.
And the idea that we owe Rooney anything after his behaviour and form in the last few years is silly in my opinion.
Made me laugh but this is spot on.
All the excitement of the past few weeks from the kids playing well has just been killed by the thought of Rooney walking straight back into the team, on zero merit 
Absolutely. Haven't people learned?
Rooney CAN be used in a way to help the team, but don't have much faith in van Gaal changing his ways. Rooney straight back in and I can bet we'll still get the strange subs, rather than making proper use of more attacking options.
This dumbass was supposed to score 20 goals according to LvG. Bullshit. He has transformed in to the worst striker for United. It's his fault he hasn't managed to break the record this season. He has been given all the chances and once he returns he will make Rashford sit on the bench. Not fair.
On a more serious note, the reason Rooney gets such a harsh reaction from caftards is because of his status in the team. If he was treated on merit as everyone else is, and not turned into this demi-God figure that the whole club must bow down to, he'd be seen far more favorably. In fact, he might just add something to the team when he comes back provided he's not in donkey-form again. He could do a job at number 10 at least for what is left of the season, along with Mata, or as a number 9 as Rashford will struggle at times. But it's the idea that this is his team and he walks into it at his leisurely pace whenever he wants to, that grates people.
I mentioned in the other thread that I'd like to think that as a player inside the walls that he can see what Marcus Rashford doing well represents in the grand scope of our season. I know it is naive to think he'll lovingly part with a first team spot just to let the lad run out the season but part of me thinks that with the Euro coming up it would be a pretty good strategy. Rooney the impact sub and to come on for Mata, or start for Mata.
It is blindingly obvious that no player has nailed down the #9 spot this season, Rooney nor Martial. I think what we are seeing is Rashford with a bit of fire pre-vangalization. Literally the lowest specimen in the food chain so he can just play how he feels like playing. The style all season has made a lot of players much much worse and Martial at #9 included. Even with Martials wizardry on the ball he's isolated, rarely gets any chances or service. He's left to feed off scraps and dribble at two and three people down the middle. Something you can't really expect Rooney to do at a high level. It has been an omnishambles from start to finish really.
I think it is best not to try and dissect why people here don't like him. I've not really encountered such bitterness or anything else be it on the internet or in real life and I can only really conclude it is the product of being tied to the Caf raving emotionally driven rubbish about him all day and night.
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Yes yes Rooney feeds off scraps blah blah blah. The fact is no way in hall does Rooney score that Rashford goal. He's absolutely no threat in behind. You can also accuse him of not giving the midfielders behind him options because he's so deep all the time. Rooney couldn't get away from Wes Morgan ffs.
There is absolutely no way in hell Rooney accepts being an impact sub. There is more chance of the next Rooney Chavey not having a ridiculous name.
You're probably right. He's not a logical bloke by any stretch of the imagination but looking at the nuts and bolts of it... Euro's coming up, young Manc doing well in the lineup... surely a... "go on lad erm".. Probably a bridge to far I think.
If Rooney was playing upfront then Demichelis would probably have had a fine game. All his horror show moments came from our young quick players sprinting at him, either taking him on like Rashford on putting him under pressure before he expected it like Martial.
If Rooney stays and he is going to start most of the games next season.
What would you prefer, Rooney as 10 and buy a striker, or sign 10 and play Rooney as our main striker?
What would you prefer, Rooney as 10 and buy a striker, or sign 10 and play Rooney as our main striker?
#10 regardless of who the manager is. You know if Mourinho comes in he is going to come in with a huge stiffy over getting him scoring goals again. It is basically the enigma machine that needed solving this season. Need to get him arriving late and playing free in the space in the center. This season has showed that playing with no service as a #9 is almost pointless for him. Especially in this league with the physicality. Getting him to drop off the front striker and in the space will do wonders for his all-round game next season in my opinion.
He will still be here next season, especially if Jose is around as he's openly spoke about his admiration for Rooney. Can see him playing him in the number 10
Jose dont want him. That's 3 years ago. He's pragmatist, not a romantic, and definitely not blind and dumb
Pretty sure wes Morgan was rated as one of the quickest defenders in the league so you probably should have mentioned Jagielka instead
True. That burst of acceleration while on the ball is something that Rooney isn't capable of. If you look strikers that on the top 5 goalscorer PL chart: Kane, Vardy, Lukaku, Aguero, Mahrez. All have something in common: speed and acceleration.
Rooney can also score goals like the ones against Newcastle that no one else in this squad is capable of.
When was the last time he scored a goal like that though beside that Newcastle one? Once he was capable of hitting 4-5 long distance goals per season but as he got worse in the last 2 years that ability has gone as well.
I hope you're right, Rooney has become our Gerrard but at least Rodgers had the balls to bench him when he became detrimental to the team.
if we ask him nicely do you think he might do it again for us, against a team not getting relegated?
Rooney may not be as influential on the pitch as he used to be, but he's still a very important member to have in the squad. He's a leader on and off the pitch, and always seems to get good feedback from the players within the squad. Players like him and will play for him.
Apparently, he gave a team talk before the City game to rally the troops, and i looked liked it worked.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-motivated-manchester-united-7601111
Not sure what will happen next season. Guess it depends who takes over. I personally think he'll be moved into the 10 position. I think providing he has pace and width around him, he'll do well.
Apparently, he gave a team talk before the City game to rally the troops, and i looked liked it worked.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-motivated-manchester-united-7601111
Not sure what will happen next season. Guess it depends who takes over. I personally think he'll be moved into the 10 position. I think providing he has pace and width around him, he'll do well.
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Oh for fecks sake, his PR machine is the best in the game, he's finished as a top player, he shouldn't be anywhere near our starting line-up.
I can't say what will happen, but I can offer my opinion on what should happen. Wayne has had a great run but he's collapsed as a top level footballer and it's time he be shifted down to a Chinese or MLS league club where he can eek out another season or two as an icon of the game.
This summer it's time for the board and, apparently, Jose to sell Rooney and be done with it.
This summer it's time for the board and, apparently, Jose to sell Rooney and be done with it.
Exactly, to borrow that above layout, what we need is this.
New Winger - New 10/AM - Martial
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on and off the pitch Wayne?
The paper he's talking about suing doing fluff pieces for his PR department. Shocking stuff. He is "believed" to have given a speech. What a leader.
Well actually it was confirmed that he did a similar thing last year before the Spurs game after our FA Cup exit against Arsenal. It was said by some players, by manager, so it's kind of stupid to discard it. And that played out rather well.
And of course it's not a big stretch to think he could have done it again this year.
Why don't we hear about Wes Morgan's speech to the Leicester City players who have defied all the odds to be on course to win the EPL title? Just some PR rubbish for a finished player. A Manchester United captain giving a speech before an important match, whoopty doo! I was wondering why there was an influx of comments like "He's so great off the pitch, and the players play for him". Maybe he should just be part of the coaching team and be a mental coach!
Well that's not true, Memphis, Martial, Lingard, and Mata all scored at least one equally impressive goal this season. That's pretty much any of our forwards.
We should give him player/manager role.
It's true that Rooney's wage is too big if we compare to what he has done this season which is not worth it. It's true that Rooney isn't the same Wayne Rooney what we know. But get rid of him this summer will be a big mistake. What we lack right now is an example of experience players, winning mentality and a leader who's been in our club as a good example for our young players especially in our attackers and I think Rooney can offer them to our club at the moment. If we still have the likes of 2012/2013 RVP, Giggs, Rio, Vidic and Evra or may be Evans who had won trophies with us then I wouldn't mind selling Rooney right now for his wage reason. But we don't! and if we ignore his wage, he actually can still do a good job for us, he can still be useful and I personally think he is much better choice to have rather than keeping Mata or Fellaini. People have been saying if we have a great players to support Mata, Mata will be looked much better and effective to be fair so does Rooney. He is not the same player as during his best but if there is a good support behind him he can still score goals. Selling Rooney right now in our current condition is not the right time. IMO the right time is when our young players can finally step up to be a champion.
All the excitement of the past few weeks from the kids playing well has just been killed by the thought of Rooney walking straight back into the team, on zero merit
How disgusting would it be to see Rashford dropped for Rooney. I'd be livid
It's confirmed as news when he actually does lead? Should we not be expecting it off the captain on a regular basis and it not to be news at all as it's part of his job as captain to inspire? It shouldn't be seen as out of the ordinary and something to make a story about. It's a PR fluff piece designed to make it look like he's somehow leading us when we got a big result without him.
"Rashers, score some goals la"
Rashford is already better and more capable striker than Rooney, but we will need someone for rotation role so rooney could help Rashford to have a rest in a busy schedule otherwise start rasher whenever possible, I wouldnt also mind play memphis instead of rooney... if the manager wants to play rooney as no10 instead of better players like Mata/Lingard then I will go mad. Rooney is one of the biggest reasons we are on such a downfall, should be out of the club seasons ago..
I don't like Rooney and hope he won't play for the club for much longer as he is completely past it but there is no way Rashford is currently better than him. Rashford gives us pace and definitely more options in terms of attacking but Rooney is still the better player.
I agree with this. I really want Rooney to leave as well but we still need him and Rooney is still a better player than Rashford. Rashford is still raw but quality.
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