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2015-16 Performances


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5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
41
Goals
15
Assists
6
Yellow cards
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What about last year. Or the year before. Or the last 10 years.
He has won so many trophies which most managers would be envious of.
You can't judge a manager on half a bad season.
[Mourinho]
I didn't judge his entire career. I'm saying his methods have failed miserably this year. Maybe he needs to work on his tendency of fall out with everyone. We certainly don't want it going tits up in year 2 or 3 if he comes here.
 
Obviously Rooney isn't the only problem with LVG, but my god, seeing him out there, stinking the place out, costing useful players their places on the pitch, it's just unbearable. Van Gaal's mollification of Rooney is equal parts bizarre and infuriating.
 
I didn't judge his entire career. I'm saying his methods have failed miserably this year. Maybe he needs to work on his tendency of fall out with everyone. We certainly don't want it going tits up in year 2 or 3 if he comes here.

To be fair to Mourinho, I think some of his players have acted shamefully. Not liking your manager is one thing, but purposefully playing badly (or halfheartedly, at best) is unjustifiable, and I don't think Mourinho should be apportioned the bulk of the blame if his players' professional morals are so low. (Man, that sounds dramatic.)

Even though some of out players probably don't like LVG or his methods, I still feel they're all trying their best.
 
Updated this to include the most recent games.

Rooney's ratings and how they compare to the rest of the team are amazing:

Tottenham 5.4 - below average
Villa 3.6 - worst
Brugge 5.7 - below average
Newcastle 4.8 - worst
Brugge 8.8 - best
Swansea 3.1 - worst
Southampton 4.8 - worst
Ipswich 6.7 - average
Sunderland 6.8 - below average
Wolfsburg 4.7 - worst
Arsenal 3.8 - below average
Everton 6.8 - below average
Moscow 4.7 - worst
City 4.5 - worst
Middlesbrough 3.0 - worst
Palace 3.7 - worst
CSKA 6.5 - average
West Brom - 6.1 - below average
PSV - 4.9 - below average
Leicester 3.8 - worst
Norwich 3.3 - worst

1 x Our best player.
2 x Average.
7 x Below Average.
11 x Our worst player.
 
His legs are gone, it's so obvious.

He couldn't play himself in to form when he played every minute for the first half of the season and a couple of weeks rest and he still looks no better.

He's finished at the top level
 
He's been the worst player in half of the games he's played and close to the worse in nearly the other half. This is what we get for 300k a week.
 
He's been the worst player in half of the games he's played and close to the worse in nearly the other half. This is what we get for 300k a week.
And we're stuck with him. No way is Giggs going to put his mate on the bench. It's a bloody nightmare with him. Wish Ed had the balls to kick him out now. Club is a bloody nightmare bending over for him.
 
To be fair to Mourinho, I think some of his players have acted shamefully. Not liking your manager is one thing, but purposefully playing badly (or halfheartedly, at best) is unjustifiable, and I don't think Mourinho should be apportioned the bulk of the blame if his players' professional morals are so low. (Man, that sounds dramatic.)

Even though some of out players probably don't like LVG or his methods, I still feel they're all trying their best.
I agree with that. As always it's not simply the fault of one side. The players' attitude at Chelsea has stunk and they've driven a manager who I believe the club would have benefited from staying. At the same time, Mourinho also has to bear the brunt of this shocking managerial performance this season. He's been appalling. He's got a top team completely shattered and created an atmosphere of conflict and finger pointing. So yeah, Mourinho has to learn from this big time otherwise he'll tarnish his reputation.
 
The way they played yesterday is proof that it wasn't all joses fault.
 
If we had discussions on which striker to buy, Berahino, Lukaku, Cisse, etc pretty much right through the league, there would be someone coming up with an argument of why it might be a good idea for each.
Hypothetically, if this incarnation of Rooney was at another club and was available, I strongly suspect that not one single person would want him here.
That speaks volumes.
Add to that the guaranteed start and mega wage, and it would be like suggesting we do the same for an injured Titus Bramble.

There was a diagonal cross from the left in the first half (by whoever) and a delicious low cross from Young in the second that Rooney could have reached. I looked at him on both occasions, and he didn't react.
His legs may be shot, to not even try to get onto quality crosses, or even notice them until so late, shows that he won't even compensate for his physical failings by intelligence, ala Giggs and Scholes.
Time to get shut.
 
the irony is we don't have any senior striker in the team or any striker all bar Martial. It all boils down to bad planning in LvG's part.
 
All Moyes and Louis had to do it's have a word with the Scottish knight sitting in a stand with his bloody name in giant capitals about Rooney, but nooooooo rather than do that, both pandered to this fraud and even made him captain and highest player, selling RVP in the process.

Utter incompetence and piss poor management , the board need a good hard word about decisions made, maybe all the success under Fergie left us with a soft underbelly as the concession of shocking decisions post Fergie is really starting to grate.
 
At this rate I am hoping those Cavani rumours start up again in January :lol:
 
No, really??!

You really are a waste of space and time.
Yeah, you're probably a bit slow and haven't understood what's been happening this season as usual. Do try and keep up chap.

If I was such a waste of time and space you wouldn't spend time writing shitty posts in response to me. Now run along and insult someone else.
 
The sad part is that you know he will start the next game and play 90 mins. He and Van Gaal can feck themselves.
 
the irony is we don't have any senior striker in the team or any striker all bar Martial. It all boils down to bad planning in LvG's part.

When LVG writes about his time at United in the future. Im sure he will say that relying on Rooney was one of his worst decisions ever.
 
The sad part is that you know he will start the next game and play 90 mins.

He'll be the first name on the team sheet.


When LVG writes about his time at United in the future. Im sure he will say that relying on Rooney was one of his worst decisions ever.

Somehow I dont think so. Even now, with his job on the line and about to be sacked, he continues to play Rooney, in the blind belief that he can score goals. And will continue to do so, until he is fired. He says Rooney is the best Captain he has ever worked with and I don't think he will change his opinion anytime soon.
 
Rooney is one of our most senior players and obviously the main man in the dressing room. I can only assume that is why van Gaal sticks with him. JUST BIN THE cnut. Picking up bad results becos he is useless as feck is more detrimental to squad morale than pandering to him purely cos he's a figurehead.
 
Yeah, you're probably a bit slow and haven't understood what's been happening this season as usual. Do try and keep up chap.

If I was such a waste of time and space you wouldn't spend time writing shitty posts in response to me. Now run along and insult someone else.


Fact remains that Mourinhos methods have worked for him far more than they have against him. But continue to be a moron if you like, it suits you.
 
His contract runs out in June 2019, we will pay him around £35m in the next three and a half years. He's not going to move is he?

that contract looks more and more insane by the day. What the hell were Moyes n Co thinking?
 
Picking Rooney over Lukaku or Barkley would be a downgrade, he will leave for MLS at some point.
 
Fact remains that Mourinhos methods have worked for him far more than they have against him. But continue to be a moron if you like, it suits you.
Of course they have. He's a top manager. But your brain wouldn't understand a well rounded opinion. Bother other people.
 
No matter who we get as manager they'll struggle to do anything here as long as Rooney's death grip on the club remains. He's our Casillas.
 
He'll be the first name on the team sheet.




Somehow I dont think so. Even now, with his job on the line and about to be sacked, he continues to play Rooney, in the blind belief that he can score goals. And will continue to do so, until he is fired. He says Rooney is the best Captain he has ever worked with and I don't think he will change his opinion anytime soon.

I feel largely its because he is still living in through it now. When he has time to reflect on it, he wont believe how bad a decision it was.
 
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