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We're not a serious club so it won't surprise me if we keep a player on 300k a week just to score 10 more goals.
Yeah nothing surprises me these days with United.

Depends on who's in charge, Moyes brown nosed him from day one and LVG made him the undroppable captain. There aren't a lot of manager who can walk into a club and strip the captaincy from his highest earner, Fergie was the only person to have managed him who had the balls to get rid of him.
It shouldn't be up to the manager IMO. I remember all of us being so proud of our "manager is king" policy when SAF was in-charge, but in truth, it worked because it was SAF an he was "the boss". Given the short managerial stints these days, the club HAS to be capable of making decisions too keeping in mind that managers can change. This is one such decision. Rooney has to go for me irrespective of the manager. Woody has to show what he's made of. His image is of a tough chap who makes things happen even if they're not easy decisions. This is his real test.
 
for all those wanting Jose in charge you can be sure we'll be stuck with this clapped out donkey if he is made manager, we are in a rut because of this guy as much as LvG, neither are doing the job they are paid so handsomely for.
 
Even if a change of management is imminent, you just know he'll be around to hinder another regime, having to be shoe-horned somewhere in the team because of his name and reputation. All the while getting a free pass from the media because he's either not played in his best position (which constantly changes in order to be different from the position he's currently occupying), or perhaps some nonsense about his team mates not being good enough. He's got it so damn easy.
 
Any manager that isn't prepared to place this charlatan where he should be, should he can feck off.
 
With his wages, who else would take him? He's not going anywhere until his contract is up unfortunately.
The club is financially a behemoth. If we want to, we can get rid of him. There's always a way. We might have to take a financial hit but it would be the right thing to do.
 
The club is financially a behemoth. If we want to, we can get rid of him. There's always a way. We might have to take a financial hit but it would be the right thing to do.

exactly that.
My old boss was probbo on 80k+ a year. Apparently got a 2+ year payoff to retire, probbo 200k or so.

So multiply the money up a heck of a lot, and I'm sure United could pay him 10-15m or so to "ease" him off somewhere exotic to make up for the shortfall in wage.
 
exactly that.
My old boss was probbo on 80k+ a year. Apparently got a 2+ year payoff to retire, probbo 200k or so.

So multiply the money up a heck of a lot, and I'm sure United could pay him 10-15m or so to "ease" him off somewhere exotic to make up for the shortfall in wage.
Indeed. We could also pay part of his salary at his next club. If we keep him it's just because we want to keep using him as a marketing tool and are afraid of making big decisions the club clearly can handle financially. Whether we have the will to do the right thing is another matter.
 
...Fergie was the only person to have managed him who had the balls to get rid of him.

Mourinho would get rid of him (or put him on the bench).
Last year, we kept playing Falcao even though most knew he was not EPL quality.
Chelsea bought/loaned him and put him straight on the bench, even though the Falcao deal was for a mate of Jose's.
Jose is ruthless and doesnt give a damn if he upsets 1 or more players.
 
Mourinho would get rid of him (or put him on the bench).
Last year, we kept playing Falcao even though most knew he was not EPL quality.
Chelsea bought/loaned him and put him straight on the bench, even though the Falcao deal was for a mate of Jose's.
Jose is ruthless and doesnt give a damn if he upsets 1 or more players.
That worked out well.
 
Mourinho would get rid of him (or put him on the bench).
Last year, we kept playing Falcao even though most knew he was not EPL quality.
Chelsea bought/loaned him and put him straight on the bench, even though the Falcao deal was for a mate of Jose's.
Jose is ruthless and doesnt give a damn if he upsets 1 or more players.
To be fair, Mourinho wanted to sign him when SAF was trying to get rid of him.

That said, I do agree that at this point Mourinho wouldn't want him anymore.
 
He's become symbolic of everything that is wrong with the footballing side of the club. Overpaid player, living off his name and past glories.
 
He's become symbolic of everything that is wrong with the footballing side of the club. Overpaid player, living off his name and past glories.
I agree with literally every post of yours, they're all harsh and negative but at least you're not in denial as most of the others. Too many things at this club just arent good enough anymore, but because of sentiment they're being held.
 
Yes it did, he is now favourite for a bigger job than the one recently lost.
No it didn't. He's been the worst manager in england this season. Worked out piss poor. Maybe he should worked harder at bringing people together rather than fighting with everyone.
 
This year by making tough as nails decisions against individual players and blaming the everyone else, he sure has been shit.

What about last year. Or the year before. Or the last 10 years.
He has won so many trophies which most managers would be envious of.
You can't judge a manager on half a bad season.
[Mourinho]
 
I agree with literally every post of yours, they're all harsh and negative but at least you're not in denial as most of the others. Too many things at this club just arent good enough anymore, but because of sentiment they're being held.

I'd be careful admitting that around here if I were you :lol::nervous:

But yeah, there is a lot wrong with this club atm, a lot that many are just refusing to see. They're used to everything just working themselves out with United, and because of that have that false sense of security. We're Manchester United, we're too big to fail. But the only reason we're used to things being okay in the end was because of Fergie. Without him, we're just like any other big club now. Any future success will rest on the decisions we make. And atm, we're continually making the wrong ones.
 
What about last year. Or the year before. Or the last 10 years.
He has won so many trophies which most managers would be envious of.
You can't judge a manager on half a bad season.
[Mourinho]


They don't count. Or something.
 
I agree with literally every post of yours, they're all harsh and negative but at least you're not in denial as most of the others. Too many things at this club just arent good enough anymore, but because of sentiment they're being held.

Agree with both of you
 
In a word sort of way, he's the perfect reflection of the club at he minute. The perfect captain. I will throw a party the day he leaves the club. It will mean we have have closed a chapter and are starting to move forward.
 
I'd be careful admitting that around here if I were you :lol::nervous:

But yeah, there is a lot wrong with this club atm, a lot that many are just refusing to see. They're used to everything just working themselves out with United, and because of that have that false sense of security. We're Manchester United, we're too big to fail. But the only reason we're used to things being okay in the end was because of Fergie. Without him, we're just like any other big club now. Any future success will rest on the decisions we make. And atm, we're continually making the wrong ones.

Yup
 
In a word sort of way,noes the perfect reflection of the club at he minute. The perfect captain. I will throw a party the day he leaves the club. It will mean we have have closed a chapter and are starting to move forward.

Can I have an invite please?
 
...And atm, we're continually making the wrong ones.

I'm not so sure.
LVG did a decent job last year. He brought stability to us and gave our players a direction.
He got rid of the deadwood and has started bringing in some young players who may serve us well for the next 5 years or so.
He has done A LOT of good things.
Unfortunately, the results are now so bad, he has to go.

Moyes was a bad decision. But LVG (for the work he has done so far), was a very good decision.
 
I'm not so sure.
LVG did a decent job last year. He brought stability to us and gave our players a direction.
He got rid of the deadwood and has started bringing in some young players who may serve us well for the next 5 years or so.
He has done A LOT of good things.
Unfortunately, the results are now so bad, he has to go.

Moyes was a bad decision. But LVG (for the work he has done so far), was a very good decision.

But he also got rid of too many players and didn't replace them which worked against himself, he should have known not to rely on Rooney and martial,we could all see it why the fu,ck couldn't this clown
 
Rooney wouldn't start on any top 10 team in europe except ours :(

We aren't a top ten team in Europe currently but he isn't good enough to start for a top ten team in England, never mind the whole of Europe. I genuinely think he would struggle in the MLS.
 
Rooney has been on a decline for years, how lvg didn't know this is beyond me, add to this he only got martial on the last day, can you imagine where we'd be if martial wasn't here and this was the plan of a top manager.

That is not the plan or foresight of a top manager.
 
I'd be careful admitting that around here if I were you :lol::nervous:

But yeah, there is a lot wrong with this club atm, a lot that many are just refusing to see. They're used to everything just working themselves out with United, and because of that have that false sense of security. We're Manchester United, we're too big to fail. But the only reason we're used to things being okay in the end was because of Fergie. Without him, we're just like any other big club now. Any future success will rest on the decisions we make. And atm, we're continually making the wrong ones.

Sadly, that's true. I detect an unspoken assumption among some that this is all just a blip, some minor turbulence, before normal service is resumed. After three years of mediocrity while rivals have been strengthening, we are at a fork in the road now. One way involves appointing a qualified manager with a record of recent meaningful success along with the adoption of a DoF model to help Woodward; the other involves handing the job to Giggs so that three years without a title becomes 5, then 10 etc...
 
Sadly, that's true. I detect an unspoken assumption among some that this is all just a blip, some minor turbulence, before normal service is resumed. After three years of mediocrity while rivals have been strengthening, we are at a fork in the road now. One way involves appointing a qualified manager with a record of recent meaningful success along with the adoption of a DoF model to help Woodward; the other involves handing the job to Giggs so that three years without a title becomes 5, then 10 etc...

Spot on.
 
Sadly, that's true. I detect an unspoken assumption among some that this is all just a blip, some minor turbulence, before normal service is resumed. After three years of mediocrity while rivals have been strengthening, we are at a fork in the road now. One way involves appointing a qualified manager with a record of recent meaningful success along with the adoption of a DoF model to help Woodward; the other involves handing the job to Giggs so that three years without a title becomes 5, then 10 etc...
if we appoint giggs, we're certainly going to be doomed for the forseeable future like you said.

just look at what happened to AC milan with seedorf and inzaghi.
 
I have never been the greatest admirer of Rooney, but now he is quite useless. Two things I noticed today that have become quite noticeable with him:

1) He must soon becoming our slowest player. That pass from Smalling should have resulted in a one on one with the keeper. RVP would have buried that even - Hernandez would definitely been free, as would Welbeck and Martial. But no, play Rooney.

2) I think he might have a neck problem as he always looks right. There were at least a couple of instances where there were huge openings to the left, but his eyes never searched that area, instead he drifted right. One was so obvious it was hilarious to look at. People compare his passing and vision to that of Scholes, but Scholes actually had a fully functioning neck and could pin point passes left, right and through the center.
 
I've actually started to worry that it is the club that is putting pressure on LVG to play Rooney. If LVG was ready to ship RVP, who was even then a superior player, why stick with Rooney and even put Martial out wide. Is he really THAT stupid, or is it politics?
 
Can't even say he's better than what Falcao was showing last season.
 
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