I've already given my reasons. Why do you want me to agree with everybody else that he was "average" because he scored a goal? He was our least threatening attacking player on the pitch, missed a sitter, and some of his touches to give the ball away were absolutely as bad as in previous games; he just wasn't quite as bad as in previous games because he had more players around him this game and wasn't playing as the lone striker. For a no.10 in a game where you have 70% possession and 5/6 men in every single attack, that is a pretty dire performance.
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I've already given my reasons. Why do you want me to agree with everybody else that he was "average" because he scored a goal? He was our least threatening attacking player on the pitch, missed a sitter, and some of his touches to give the ball away were absolutely as bad as in previous games; he just wasn't quite as bad as in previous games because he had more players around him this game and wasn't playing as the lone striker. For a no.10 in a game where you have 70% possession and 5/6 men in every single attack, that is a pretty dire performance.
that's how I saw it too. Does not mean I was happy with our forward play. We need to be taking on players more.
Given what he's produced so far this season then I'm going to have to accept that as a good performance.
I mean, it isn't really, but all things considered I can't complain too much.
I mean, it isn't really, but all things considered I can't complain too much.
Absurd click bait (which I have fallen for). Either you have an agenda, or you have no clue about judging a football players performance.
You're a hoot. I like you. I like you a lot.
Good performance, against a very poor team. Would love if he could carry this in to the next game
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I think for much of the game, his control was tighter. Unlucky with the blocked effort but took the goal well. Such an important goal, hopefully we kick on as a team and create more chances.
I only saw the extended highlights on TV3 but I didn't see much different from what we've already seen from him. The goal was good and he did some good things after but the talk of him turning his season around which will surely follow this must be way ott.
When he plays well, I will say so. He is yet to play well this season, and there is nobody who can argue with me about Rooney's ineffectual performance (aside from the goal, as I have already said) because it's an honest, objective evaluation. people are only giving him a 6 out of 10 (some are giving him higher than that, amazingly) because we functioned better as a team today and Rooney wasn't isolated. You have to be honest, we had 70% possession, much of it in Moscow's half, and Rooney didn't create a single chance apart from a flick to Lingard (after his goal; as I said earlier, he did nothing before he scored) which Lingard turned into a chance with a great turn and shot.
He was playing as our 10. You all obviously look for something very different to me in a 10.
I don't know why everyone is jumping on the new guy for, that was not a good performance unless you lower the bar to a height that a toddler can climb over it. It was better in patches than we have seen from him this season but still littered with sloppiness and the goal doesn't paper over the cracks.
if he picked up form...
think if he exceeds that record, he will be gone to MLS next season.
More like we havent. That's because he hasn't scored in a while.
I agree. He once again looked a weak link to me - seems to take so long to do anything these days, every other touch goes horribly wrong.
Oh pack it in. They parked the bus. Most of that possession was back and forth in front of banks of yellow jerseys. He came out and linked well, had a couple of key passes and scored the winner. To give him a 3 is petty, vindictive nonsense. What did you give Martial? Mata? Schweinsteiger? If you gave everyone a 3, fair enough. Nobody said Rooney was great but he was better and ultimately effective. Your determination to write off the winning goal as an annoying irrelevence is frankly slightly mental. I want him to get better and succeed, you want him to shrivel up and disappear, we'll just agree to disagree.
He played ok today. Arguably his best performance of the season. Some clever passing around the edge of the box and his long-range passing was bang on the money for a change. So fecking annoying when people are unable to judge an individual performance on its own merits.
Thought he was "better" today, but still not hopeful in the longer term. As he's undroppable I'd like to see him stay at 10 from now on with Martial in front.
He was alright up until the goal, that was a fantastic header. I just hope this will spur him on so we can see a return to the Rooney of old. I would still rather see him as a number 10 than a 9 though.
Anyone notice the guy he hugged in the crowd looked a lot like Andy Tate?
2 good, creative ideas to sort of put Lingard in, finished 1 one his 2 good chances and otherwise didn't do much good or bad. This is what I thought he'd play like this season, instead of the immobile horror show he's been. 7/10
It was a good game from him. Like I said, all of you who were claiming he's been "falcaoed" were just going over the top. I'm confident he'll get over this bad run of games that he's had. One of our better players today.
Also has anyone noticed he's on course to get 20 goals this season at his current goals/game ratio? Which admittedly is entirely carried by the Brugge hat trick so barely worth mentioning..
Acceptable, and if his best performance of the season is just acceptable he is still needing to be phased out. Having said that if he plays like that till the end of the season I'll be fairly happy. Not convinced it will last to the weekend though.
Loved the celebration.
Mata created two clear-cut chances, and most of the play was on the other side of the pitch. Watch the game. I gave Mata a 6/10. Basti is not a no.10, but he controlled the game and his choice of pass was generally positive. It's hard not to give a midfielder 6/7 out of 10 in a game where he dictates the tempo and you have 70% possession. Martial had his poorest game for us with some poor passing, but this was not helped by his poor synergy with Rooney. Even in this game he was holding the ball up very well, drawing two-three men to mark him every time he received the ball and was the one always looking to stretch the game, hence why he fell offside so often, so even in this game I gave him a 5/10.
The point is not so much what the players did wrong but what they offer to our play in their respective positions. Rooney offered no creativity as the team's creative focal point, the no.10. you can have a bad game where things don't work for you (Martial) but you can't be a passenger.
There was an attack just after the goal, where he threatened in behind. Lingard (I think) played him in but instead of taking the shot on from inside the box he attempted a return pass. I do wish he would be more selfish sometimes.
Delighted to see him back on the scoresheet.
Delighted to see him back on the scoresheet.
People saying it's his best performance this season, but I personally think he was better against Everton. He may have lost the ball more against Everton, but he was involved more and always looked threatening. Wasn't as involved as I would have liked him to be tonight, but I'm so glad he got his goal.
Would have been just cruel if the only reward for a much improved performance was the tap-in he couldn't sort his feet out for.
Bullshit. Slipped Lingard through with a couple of very clever passes and generally passed the ball well. I swear some of you cnuts must not watch the game. Were you watching on a laggy stream or something?
Yep I've been a big critic of his but he was our second best player today. It was nice to see. Hopefully he can start to justify his inclusion in the team.
Get the feeling people are seeing what they want to see here. He had a good game. If it wasn't for Akinfeev's heroics he could have had a couple of assists as well. I get the bashing when he's his usual ineffective self but he was actually pretty damn good and won us the game so give the credit where it's due.
Generally passed the ball well? He was very sloppy with the ball, as usual. The ball to Lingard, after he scored, was decent. I have already said that. The ball earlier in the game didn't result in a goal-scoring opportunity because, though my recollection may be wrong (and I have no problem being proved wrong on this) I thought the pass was over hit. But even if it wasn't, why does that equate to generally passing the ball well and an overall "good" performance. If that's a good performance, we've slipped a very long way from the summit of world football.
He misplaced very few passes and only very rarely conceded possession at all. Apart from 2 or 3 times in the last few minutes, which must have distorted your memory of his passing overall. Short and long. It was a huge improvement on recent weeks (apart from, maybe, the Everton game)
He gave the ball away a number of times throughout the game, resulting in some of Moscow's only counterattacks (which Rooney has done in every single game I've seen of him this season. I've lost count of the number of times him losing the ball in a bad area has led to goal-scoring opportunities on the break for our opposition). I thought he was poor, goal aside, in the Everton game. That was another 4/10 performance. Our creativity in that game came from Herrera's runs into the box and the team generally being sharp in the first 20 minutes and Everton poor.
Well if no one else is going to say it well done Wayne Rooney on becoming our 2nd highest scorer of all time, and will overtake Ruud in European competition and eventually Sir Bobby as Uniteds all time leading goalscorer.
I'd say he was our worst player if we discount the goal. Even with it only Martial was as bad. The chance he missed was painful to watch.
I really don't think he's going to overtake Sir Bobby.
Sorry but you're talking out your arse. Your mind was clearly made up before a ball was kicked so there's no point discussing what actually happened.
I personally thought he was quite good today. He had good movement, some good first touches, picked his passes well, sprayed them around judiciously and brought people around him into play well generally. That goal was well taken, though his tangled-up feet should have finished the Mata chance, too.
Good improvement over the infuriating dross he's served up this season so far.
Good improvement over the infuriating dross he's served up this season so far.
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