I think this was true for his game against City but he was appalling yesterday. He was one of the worst players on the pitch against a Championship side at Old Trafford! He couldn't keep the ball close to their box. Didn't Boro's strikers look much better than him?
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I think this was true for his game against City but he was appalling yesterday. He was one of the worst players on the pitch against a Championship side at Old Trafford! He couldn't keep the ball close to their box. Didn't Boro's strikers look much better than him?
Either way, if we're all discussing just how shit his performances are, not if they were shit even, I think it says something about where this train is headed.
They did, and that probably applies to almost every game he's played this season. That said, he's been worse, that's all I'm saying.
For the record, I don't need to be converted as to seeing Rooney is shite. I've been saying this long before this season to far more resistance than we see today.
I know your stance well and I think you have been generally spot on. Also with regard to Martial, IIRC you created a thread about Martial weeks before we signed him?
2 years ago I did say Rewnaaayyy being sold to Chelsea would have been a massive boost to us on the football pitch... he did have a few decent early months for Moyes, but the people who opposed me must surely felt he had much more to give.
Again I triumph, although how happy I am about being proven right is another hing altogether. Had he been half as good as some thought he was/is/would be, we would be winning the league this year.
Again I triumph, although how happy I am about being proven right is another hing altogether. Had he been half as good as some thought he was/is/would be, we would be winning the league this year.
I also was of the opinion we should have bitten the bullet and sold him to Chelsea. The worst that would have happened that season is that we would have finished 8th or 9th. Not much difference with our eventual position. However, he would be Chelsea's problem now not ours and by now we would have replaced him with a younger better player.
What really annoys me about his performances this year is that when he has space he never drives in to it. His first instincts always seem to go backwards and then just pass it to the wing. There is absolutely no creativity coming from him at the moment.
Absolutely. Hindsight is 20/20, obviously, but there were strong signs already back then and I don't recall too many of us complaining when Ferguson dropped him for the Madrid tie.
His form was terrible around then. He had been faffing about for months. He was also playing in his so called favored position behind RVP.
Indeed. Like I and many others have said earlier: Ferguson put Rooney's head on a plate for Moyes. The rest is history.
There was a point when he killed a counter dead when he got a pass in space. Instead of him to play a foward pass of drive for goal, this charlatan took a touch backwards about 7 yards allowng four of the other teams players back into position befor trying a cross foeld ball to Lingard.
I will be honest, my Martial thread was probably only about a week before we signed him.
Can you just imagine the state of our attack had we not added Martial? I'd imagine we'd be on course for a record low goals total.
If he carries on playing like this he will put Hodgson in a difficult situation as well, the current Rooney can't lead the attack for England.
But he will, we all know this.
At the time, I think we really couldnt afford to lose him. Make no mistake, even then the decline had begun, but that would have sent out a terrible statement at the time. To lose Fergie and the biggest name in our team would have sent the United in crisis narrative into overdrive. I also feared that Mourinho would turn him back into a megastar and we would suffer for it. Now it looks like they would be fighting relegation together.
What I didnt agree with though was the contract lenght. Stupid decision then, even more terrible decision now.
Cant see Hodgson dropping him..he's not got the balls for such a thing..he'll squeeze him into the team again(Like left wing as he did at the world cup), Rooney will perform poorly, England will suffer for it, and Woy will still keep his job.
Was laser pen to blame for Rooney missing penalty?
Wayne Rooney's recent difficulties continue as he misses a penalty in Manchester United's shock cup exit to Middlesbrough, but was he put off?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ough-Wayne-Rooney-penalty-miss-laser-pen.html
Wayne Rooney's recent difficulties continue as he misses a penalty in Manchester United's shock cup exit to Middlesbrough, but was he put off?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ough-Wayne-Rooney-penalty-miss-laser-pen.html
Always an excuse...
In truth, Rooney's penalty was pretty good. It was hit hard and low, he was just unfortunate the keeper guessed right. If you want to make something of the penalty you might say he could have hit it with more power. Still, he got it on target, it was headed to the corner, the keeper just did his job on it, it happens.
Forget the penalty, its what Rooney did for 75 minutes before that is the main issue. He's huffing and puffing like a punch drunk fighter. His first touch was mostly abysmal, his anticipation poor. I can remember when we used to bring Rooney off the bench against lesser sides to change games, and he would. Last night his introduction had no impact on the flow of the game at all. Boro weren't afraid of him, his presence didn't give their defenders anything to worry about. Rooney had so little influence that when we went for it in extra time Rooney was pushed into midfield for Fellaini.
Maybe Van Gaal needs to give Rooney a mid-season break to get his head straight. Some time in Dubai doing a little eat.pray.love might sort him out. God knows what else will.
If that's true that laser pen guy has been working hard for the last two years
Rooney didn't miss the keeper saved it. I'm not sure how a laser pen can help him choose a different corner or hit it harder. The keeper guessed correctly and went early. Young did exactly the same pen and got saved also, so no excuse there.
Ferguson knew Rooney had to go two years ago and his final act as manager was to leave it as easy as possible for Moyes to get rid of him but Moyes of course f*cked that up as well
There is a lot of truth in this.
Also Moyes has saddled us with Rooney for years to come. Nobody who can afford Rooney's wages will want him now, given the way he has been playing. Even if United wanted to get shot of him who would come in for him? Only the biggest clubs can afford to give someone £200,000+ a week. Yet can you see even PSG, who tend to make glamour signings for the sake of it, being tempted to take a punt on Rooney in his current form?
Is Loch Ness Monster causing Rooney's poor form?
http://www.telegraphh.co.uk/sport/football/players/wayne-rooney/11962279/Monster-Wayne-Rooney-haggis-shortbread-bagpipes.html
http://www.telegraphh.co.uk/sport/football/players/wayne-rooney/11962279/Monster-Wayne-Rooney-haggis-shortbread-bagpipes.html
English NT does not pick players on form or will not drop players because they put the team unbalanced. A big name will get picked for sure.
If this is true, then LVG is not going to last for long if Rooney is his best of way of keeping the dressing room under control.
I died inside when I saw this happen. And people legitimately think Rooney is capable of playing #10 when he can't even get that right. Baffles the mind.
Did he even take a shot yesterday? All he wants to do is pass is whenever he gets into shooting distance or knock it out to the right wing.
He has to be the second most predicatable player in the team, after Valencia
If he really wanted to do that he'd have just told Moyes.
He told Moyes many things Moyes ignored tbf. Like the backroom staff etc
Aaaand I think that blaming Rooney situation on Moyes is just being lazy to be fair.
I do too, although a 5 year contract (as with Nani) was not the best idea.
Aye, hard to argue that.
Free transfer.
I disagree. It has already been said by Hodgson that Rooney's place is in no way guaranteed. There is already a change in language and tone when it comes to Rooney and England and his place is under serious threat both with them and with us.
It seems clear as day to me that he's on the verge of being dropped for both club and country. This stuff about managers being scared, dressing room unrest, marketing pressures etc is pie in the sky.
I think he'll be an ex United player come next season and his international career will be all but over too.
I really do hope so, but I'm not as optimisitc.
I cant really see Hodgson dropping Rooney. Remember that at the world cup, instead of playing with a CDM like Barry(Who had a fantastic season that year) or Carrick , He played Gerrard there instead who was horribly exposed. Its been like that for years with England whereby a lot of big name players have been forced into the squad, at times at the expense of better suited players. That is part of the reason why Carrick has played so few games. I cant see Roy dropping his captain months before a major tournament. He has never been one to ruffle the the feathers.
As for United, I will wait expectantly..i'd take him being just subbed off in games at this stage. Hopefully your optimism is handsomely rewarded.
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I like your optimism but its not going to happen. First for country, i kind of agree that he will be dropped to the bench but without a doubt Rooney will be on that plane. Even if he has the worse season ever, he'll be on that plane to France next year. For club, Rooney salary is huge and i cant see any club taking Rooney with that huge salary. I don't think Rooney isn't going to settle for a cut salary, so he'll most likely just run down his contract and then go in 2019.
I like your optimism but its not going to happen. First for country, i kind of agree that he will be dropped to the bench but without a doubt Rooney will be on that plane. Even if he has the worse season ever, he'll be on that plane to France next year. For club, Rooney salary is huge and i cant see any club taking Rooney with that huge salary. I don't think Rooney isn't going to settle for a cut salary, so he'll most likely just run down his contract and then go in 2019.
I've been saying this since Moyes was appointed. Fergie had gotten RVP to play up front, and Kagawa to play behind him. Hernandez and Welbeck were good enough backups.
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