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This Rooney centric focus is killing us here. I don't think he's been terrible tonight but his presence in the team as a striker forces Martial further away from goal and it's not working right now.

Just don't get why the need to pacify one man is insisted upon at the clear expense of the full capability of the team. It's not pragmatic.

Rinse and repeat every game.
 
This is just an opinion not fact. If you ask me,, with a decent striker on the pitch we would have beaten Swansea and Man City. He's costing us points.
 
I don't think he actually played much worse than his "silent domination" vs City last year.
 
Correct thing to do. You don't single out your player in public no matter how bad they play.

This,
He was ok in the first half but he was just dire in the second.
Maybe he does need a rest as someone said previously.
He looks jaded and worn out.

I'd like to see him hang around and take on a giggs / scholes role as a squad player.
He's lost a few of his strengths as a player and they're not coming back but he can adjust his game.
He won a lot and has been a geat player for a 10-12 years, most of it with us and has endless experience in just about every situation.

He shouldn't be a nailed on starter anymore, his form doesn't warrant it but ...
I dont see any reason why he cant continue to be a good part of the squad.

He cant play 3 times a week anymore. His touch when he's tired is horrific.
Pass the captaincy onto Smalling and make use of him as a good squad player (getting dropped has often done his form a lot of good and its overdue at this point).

Dropping him wont help his confidence but it has to be done.
 
This is just an opinion not fact. If you ask me,, with a decent striker on the pitch we would have beaten Swansea and Man City. He's costing us points.
The sad thing is we do have one in Martial, but LVG wants Roon:( I could cry.
If you get beaten by the better team you hold your hand up and say we got beat fair and square. But to be deliberately holding ourselves back like this is incomprehensible.

Woodward's office is not far away from mine, maybe I should stand outside and beg him to sort this out:lol:
 
Let him go for free I say, that the least we can do for the years of service he's put in. Not good enough now, we are utd, we are 1 of the richest clubs in the world, we do not need to cash in on him. If he kick up a fuss a says he wants paying out his contract then and only then we should be looking for a fee.

Why would he leave £45m that he's owed over the next 3 years?
 
He signed a 5 and half year contract in January 2014, so it runs to July 2019

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Starting to believe there is a clause in his contract saying he has to play every game. Its getting beyond a joke now.
 
Not as sick of it as we are enduring that sub-par shit week-in week-out. How dare LVG dismiss it like that!?
He has no respect for the fans, clearly.
He's teetering very close to the edge that Moyes was tipped over!
Give me a break! Do you honestly expect him to slam Rooney in public. He deserves criticism for fielding Rooney, but he's hardly disrespecting the fans.
 
Sick and tired of him. People saying that he deserves credit for putting in an okay shift game after game where he performs like that need to have their heads checked or removed completely. LVG has been pathetic in not daring to drop or sub him either when we could be exploring our options with younger players and enabling Martial to play at centre forward.
 
Give me a break! Do you honestly expect him to slam Rooney in public. He deserves criticism for fielding Rooney, but he's hardly disrespecting the fans.

I don't expect him to slam Rooney in public, I expect him to take him to one side and explain that he hasn't been performing well lately. That he's going to drop him for a game or two. I expect him to look at the same brutal displays we look on at and recognise that Rooney should be taken off instead of any number of other players that consistently out-perform him.

He is constantly dismissive of other players after good performances, Mata, Hererra and even Memphis after the Bruges game. Good performances immediately followed by LVG quotes citing how they could also do better and improve, yet when he's straight up asked a genuine question about his shit captain, he is "sick of it"!?

I'm a fan & I think it's disrespectful.
When he shoehorns Rooney in a central role while pushing our best player and only striking threat out to the wing, dismissing any questions about the same, I think it's disrespectful.
When his stubborn, arrogant and persistently failed team selections cause dropped points to feed the ego of a has-been on more money a week than most of his fans will see in their lives, I think it's disrespectful.
Giving Rooney 90mins week in week out while every man and his dog can see he contributes nothing, that, is disrespectful.
 
I don't expect him to slam Rooney in public, I expect him to take him to one side and explain that he hasn't been performing well lately. That he's going to drop him for a game or two. I expect him to look at the same brutal displays we look on at and recognise that Rooney should be taken off instead of any number of other players that consistently out-perform him.

He is constantly dismissive of other players after good performances, Mata, Hererra and even Memphis after the Bruges game. Good performances immediately followed by LVG quotes citing how they could also do better and improve, yet when he's straight up asked a genuine question about his shit captain, he is "sick of it"!?

I'm a fan & I think it's disrespectful.
When he shoehorns Rooney in a central role while pushing our best player and only striking threat out to the wing, dismissing any questions about the same, I think it's disrespectful.
When his stubborn, arrogant and persistently failed team selections cause dropped points to feed the ego of a has-been on more money a week than most of his fans will see in their lives, I think it's disrespectful.
Giving Rooney 90mins week in week out while every man and his dog can see he contributes nothing, that, is disrespectful.
I think you're being a bit precious, I'm sorry to say.
 
As van Gaal's philosophy is built so much around possession I can not fathom how he persists with this dispossession machine. It's insanity.
 
Serious.

Three times in a five minute period today he had the ball and was ready to pass but literally NO options. No he didn't play well at all but I can't imagine others doing much better.

You can't imagine any player whatsoever doing better than Rooney did today? Unbelievable.
 
Was so hard for him today. I was at the game and sometimes there were no options at all for him.

Serious.

Three times in a five minute period today he had the ball and was ready to pass but literally NO options. No he didn't play well at all but I can't imagine others doing much better.

Was there someone with a Fellaini wig sat in front of you or something?
 


Well at least he completed 5 forward passes.

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Interesting that fourfourtwo has it at 31 passes attempted, whilst the twitter one has it at 35. Probably included some of his first touches in that I presume.
 
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Well at least he completed 5 forward passes.

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Interesting that fourfourtwo has it at 31 passes attempted, whilst the twitter one has it at 35. Probably included some of his first touches in that I presume.

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If you accept mediocrity then that's fine... Not for me.
I don't accept it, but I'm also not desperate to be offended by perceived slights from a manager who's certainly got bigger things to worry about than the feelings of oversensitive fans.
 
He's the captain of a young team which is going through a transition with new players in many positions.. Of course he's going to play the majority, specially in the important games.. Today(City home) he made some critical plays defensively but was far too passive going forward.. Shite at corners but that's nothing new..
 
I don't accept it, but I'm also not desperate to be offended by perceived slights from a manager who's certainly got bigger things to worry about than the feelings of oversensitive fans.

But he's not 'worrying about the bigger things', he's petulantly ignoring them when asked point blank!

In the Stretford End today, it was clear I wasnt the only 'oversensitive fan', not by a long shot.
 
He's the captain of a young team which is going through a transition with new players in many positions.. Of course he's going to play the majority, specially in the important games.. Today(City home) he made some critical plays defensively but was far too passive going forward.. Shite at corners but that's nothing new..

We have one of Germany's most decorated players in the side who has more big game experience than Rooney. So, taking away the "leadership" issue (and, in that respect, I have never mistaken Rooney for Robson or Keane), we are left with a player who is woefully below the standard needed for a team competing at this level. The difference between him and Martial is night and day.
 
This situation is now coming to a head. It is blatantly obvious that Rooney is now a hinderance and needs to be eased out. Today he should have be subbed off, with Martial moving into the centre and Lingard taking his position on the left. The press, and most importantly the fans, may have to make up LVG's mind on this issue as he seems very stubborn right now.

For anyone at today's game did you hear any unrest from Utd supporters regarding Rooney?
 
We have one of Germany's most decorated players in the side who has more big game experience than Rooney. So, taking away the "leadership" issue (and, in that respect, I have never mistaken Rooney for Robson or Keane), we are left with a player who is woefully below the standard needed for a team competing at this level. The difference between him and Martial is night and day.

You don't think Germany's captain replacing England's captain in an English club would look a bit weird? Not that I think it should even matter, but I can see that turning into something nasty in the press.
 
Another game nearer being dropped. He's a trier, worked hard against 2 good centre backs, but that's not enough. With a proper no 9 we'd have beaten them today they were poor and there for the taking. We were rock solid and barely gave a sniff to a team that scores goals for fun.

As for his "captaincy" he got the armband by default, has never been captain material, and the sooner it gets passed on to a genuine leader the better.

Once Young is fit he goes out wide and Martial is back in the 9 slot. No brainer.

Once Rooney is dropped it's the beginning of the end. PSG can have him on a free I reckon just get him off the wage bill.

Added bonus is that Bobby's record stands (and we all want that don't we?)
 
You don't think Germany's captain replacing England's captain in an English club would look a bit weird? Not that I think it should even matter, but I can see that turning into something nasty in the press.

Nonsense. It's not 1939 you know.
 
You don't think Germany's captain replacing England's captain in an English club would look a bit weird? Not that I think it should even matter, but I can see that turning into something nasty in the press.
Screw the press. We need to do what's best for our team. Yes it would be nasty, but we can't worry about things like that right now.
 
I miss Chicharito! How many goals has he scored after we sold him ?
 
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