What if there's no form to get back to?
Has anyone of his backers thought of that?
Has anyone of his backers thought of that?
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He played with a lot more fire and determination and that was primarily down to him being in great shape physically (arguably his best condition since the second half of the 10/11 season), but then it would be disingenuous to suggest that a different playing style would make him look like a better player. He played as a #10 against Sunderland and produced a decent performance, but ultimately it was nothing special, and I fail to see what dropping deeper would enable him to do since he looks physically weak when he tries to hold up the ball. Rooney has no excuses now. He's not being played out of position. He's had a consistent run up front for a few months and he's only managed to produce two top class performances (against Tottenham and Club Brugge).
He wasn't that good under Moyes, feck sake. If I hear that nonsense one more time. The whole team was shocking bar a few moments.
I remember last season when Rooney, Falcao and RVP were all misfiring (or playing average) - many people began to think our system was not conducive to scoring goals.
Falcao was got rid of. He has played for Chelsea and scored a grand total of 1 goal (Rooney is on 2).
Last year RVP was constantly injured, so could not get a run of games to improve his form. RVP, this year, with a better injury record, has scored 5 goals.
So, last year's weak/average players are once again proving weak/average (in different teams/positions).
Martial comes in, immediately shows good movement and scores goals.
Mata (despite his lack of speed), is creating goals.
Memphis is the only other attacker (apart from Rooney) who is proving weak, though he can be excused as he is young/inexperienced and his best years are ahead of him.
IMO, RvP, Falcao and Rooney, who were all average last year, should've all been shipped out. 2 of them left, but we're still stuck with 1, very big, dead-weight.
The problem for LVG is that he did not buy a quality attacker, as he put all his eggs in Rooney's basket. Furthermore, LVG has not helped matters by saying things like, "Rooney is the best captain he ever worked with" and "the captain shall always play".
I actually think it might be good for Rooney to be given a "holiday" for 2-4 weeks, so he can come back fresh and raring to go.
Falcao was got rid of. He has played for Chelsea and scored a grand total of 1 goal (Rooney is on 2).
Last year RVP was constantly injured, so could not get a run of games to improve his form. RVP, this year, with a better injury record, has scored 5 goals.
So, last year's weak/average players are once again proving weak/average (in different teams/positions).
Martial comes in, immediately shows good movement and scores goals.
Mata (despite his lack of speed), is creating goals.
Memphis is the only other attacker (apart from Rooney) who is proving weak, though he can be excused as he is young/inexperienced and his best years are ahead of him.
IMO, RvP, Falcao and Rooney, who were all average last year, should've all been shipped out. 2 of them left, but we're still stuck with 1, very big, dead-weight.
The problem for LVG is that he did not buy a quality attacker, as he put all his eggs in Rooney's basket. Furthermore, LVG has not helped matters by saying things like, "Rooney is the best captain he ever worked with" and "the captain shall always play".
I actually think it might be good for Rooney to be given a "holiday" for 2-4 weeks, so he can come back fresh and raring to go.
Remember when Dwight Yorke was getting tonnes of shit from critics and supporters and then he randomly used Arsenal as his own personal sex aid and played like prime Brazilian Ronaldo? Rooney needs a performance like that tomorrow.
Yeah the dogs in the street know (I love that phrase) the clock is ticking pretty damn loud. I still think he'll get a pass till the end of the season because of the politics. But I could be wrong. Depends if he gets worse or stays the same. I find it hard to imagine he'll get better because he's too slow.
Sad because I quite like him. Don't care about the City stuff.
So true
Its like the Liverpool boom-bust cycle.
The Rooney fan club wont be having any of that. Despite the fact he's been slowly regressing ever since 2010.
He was probably just about the best of a bad bunch in the first half of the season, but was as shite as anyone else after Xmas.
Its just the last desperate attempts of hope that the Rooney fan club still hang onto. Truth is, he hasn't been a great player for at least 4 or 5 years now. And now he's finally hit the wall thats been a long time coming. He's done. As done as Falcao and RVP were.
Definitely, it's all a bit silly anyway. He was good in the first half of the season and produced some top class performances tbf (Real Sociedad, Bayer Leverkusen, and Tottenham, for example), but he was atrocious in the second half of the season, with the exception being the Olympiacos game at home. Our system under Moyes was archaic and focused mainly on individuals rather than team work, which partially explains why Rooney looked a class above the rest.
I dont believe rooney can get back to his 2011 level. Not a chance.
If he can't do that in 4 years what differenfes does a couple more games does?
If he still has it in him he would have shown it, forget scoring goals, drought can occur to any top player, but failing a 10 yard pass several times per game is not acceptable.
He's like scratchy coupons, you know the odds are shite and its a waste of money, but somehow you still wish the next one is the 100k scratchy
He doesn't even press these days, he just stand in a difficult position as if he doesn't want thr ball, and neither is his teammates wants to give him the ball.
You can count and compare how many passess he receives today compared with past. Player like bfs would be pissed with his incompetence, in a possession football passing and positioning is everything, it's like phalanx, one weak link will make the cycle broken and he's more than a weak link.
Either he's benjamin button or he peaked at 26 and his body can't react as fast as his brain tolds them to.
If he can't do that in 4 years what differenfes does a couple more games does?
If he still has it in him he would have shown it, forget scoring goals, drought can occur to any top player, but failing a 10 yard pass several times per game is not acceptable.
He's like scratchy coupons, you know the odds are shite and its a waste of money, but somehow you still wish the next one is the 100k scratchy
He doesn't even press these days, he just stand in a difficult position as if he doesn't want thr ball, and neither is his teammates wants to give him the ball.
You can count and compare how many passess he receives today compared with past. Player like bfs would be pissed with his incompetence, in a possession football passing and positioning is everything, it's like phalanx, one weak link will make the cycle broken and he's more than a weak link.
Either he's benjamin button or he peaked at 26 and his body can't react as fast as his brain tolds them to.
Made me laugh.
Somebody did an interesting poem about him, about a month ago on these forums.
Basically, it commented that when he was a 17 year old kid, he had the physique and playing ability of a man in his late 20s.
In his late 20s, he now has the playing ability of a teenager.
BTW, did anybody pick up on the headline which MOTD mentioned, in tomorrow's news papers. Apparently LVG is now saying that Rooney cannot be the main striker at MUFC for much longer. Perhaps LVG is beginning to soften the fans up, for him being sold next Summer.
Wayne Rooney at 30: Louis van Gaal hints that United captain's deceleration may end his time up front
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-deceleration-may-end-his-time-up-front.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...s-deceleration-may-end-his-time-up-front.html
Ugh, that sounds like LvG's workaround is going to be allowing Rooney to stink up midfield instead of the forward line.
As long as he's in such poor form (if you want to still call it form) he'll be a problem wherever he plays. I hope LVG is saying that cause he wants to motivate him for the season - if he says the same things by the end of the season, I have some doubts
apparantey one of todays headlines is Glenn Hoddle wanting to see him moved into a new role 
As what? Goal keeper?apparantey one of todays headlines is Glenn Hoddle wanting to see him moved into a new role
Impact Sub, I hope.apparantey one of todays headlines is Glenn Hoddle wanting to see him moved into a new role
He's going to score today.
Hope you're right.
Anyways, Sky are convinced he will because it WAS his birthday
I'm basing this on nothing but gut feeling tbh.
Better than, "City can go back to the top, UNLESS THE BIRTHDAY BOY, WAYNE ROONEY, CRASHES THE PARTY!!! Or, will a teenager get the headlines?! (Martial)"
That was actually said by the way. Ridiculous
Hope you're right.
Anyways, Sky are convinced he will because it WAS his birthday
I know. Spoofers in that studio...
Take it from someone who knows, you're not guaranteed to score on your birthday
Don't know if it's idiots on Twitter messing but, some people are saying he has been dropped today
Perhaps they gave him the bumps.
Anyway, good luck today, Wayne.
Anyway, good luck today, Wayne.
I hope he has a good game today, because this is definitely not the game to have a bad one.
They're taking the piss. No way he'll be dropped for this game.Don't know if it's idiots on Twitter messing but, some people are saying he has been dropped today
In any case, if he has anything good left in his game, today's the day to show it....we need everyone working hard to win today.
I swear if that happens I'll break his leg myself.
Don't worry, his teammates would probably do that. No way will they keep supporting him privately if he's getting unjust privileges at their expense. Human nature dictates otherwise.
I hope so.
Rooney will play today no doubt but I do think he'll be dropped soon unless a miracle happens.
Or he could just score a couple of goals
In a surprising turn of events, Louis van Gaal has handed over the management of Manchester United to versatile all-rounder Wayne Rooney. "Let's face it, this is the only position we haven't tried him in, aside from The Wheelbarrow," said the Dutchman, "I just hope he selects me for the next match."
He could but he also needs to up his overall performance. Lets hope he scores today eh?
He has a good record against Shitty, lets hope so!
Come on Wazza time to step up today. If he starts playing well we will start flying.
A hat-trick to kick start his season would be nice
I agree, that if he has a good game here it could kick start everything for him. If not it could be awful for him. I seriously hope it goes well for him.
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